what tony snow actually said was "tard-baby"

[Gato Moteado]

he was saying he didn't want to hug bush at that moment.

[Boomer]

1. That's "re-tard"

n/t

[AlCzervik]

2. when you come from new england it's "tahhhhd"

[tatertop]

3. That is as offensive as tar baby

Time for Tony to expand his vocabulary.

[rpgamerd00d]

5. Tar baby isn't offensive.

[katinmn]

6. Now I can post my response to your locked thread

Your intent was to say no one should take offense to the term and that it is most important that the use of the term be taken in context otherwise we are "idiots."

Well, you are still wrong and I think you are looking for a loop hole in order to get away with using a derogatory term.

[rpgamerd00d]

10. So, if I say "I was smoking a fag", its derogatory?

Even though you know "fag" means cigarette as well as a derogatory term for homosexuals?

[BlueEyedSon]

15. Only in england, most americans would immediately assume "RPG

gamer." How old are you?

[rpgamerd00d]

17. "gay" happy, or "gay" homosexual?

Oops.

[BlueEyedSon]

21. go figure it out, context-boy!

[rpgamerd00d]

22. Clearly you meant "happy". Because I ignored the context and

just chose the definition I wanted to believe is true.

[BlueEyedSon]

8. it's a synonym for nigger... only without the potential respectful

connotation.

[katinmn]

9. Thank you!

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[BlueEyedSon]

13. On my planet, words/expression can have 2 meanings.

It's an extremely BAD choice of phrase for a public speaker.

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[BlueEyedSon]

18. don't try to imply nuance in people who don't believe in it

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[katinmn]

16. especially a WH spokesperson. Now there is a true idiot!

[tatertop]

34. Such an extremely poor choice of words

He should be out on his ass

[rpgamerd00d]

27. Ever hear of the word "context" ?

Its cool. It lets you figure out which meaning was meant when there is more than one.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=context

con·text
n.
1. The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning.
2. The circumstances in which an event occurs; a setting.

[BlueEyedSon]

29. Did you know that the word "gullible" isn't in any dictionary?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

19. See this post for a reference you might find interesting:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1204054&mesg_id=1204597

[Tunkamerica]

23. i've lived in nc all my life

and i've never heard one person, ever, use tar baby as a "synonym for nigger". I've heard it in reference to something that traps you and isn't worth fighting. I think some of you heard the word at some point in your life and just assumed it was derogatory without ever hearing it used that way.

Whatever, don't use it. And call people who use it racists. That'll fix everything.


*for the record I don't think I've ever used the term, in any context.

[BlueEyedSon]

25. It's big in the north. Bet you have some colorful expressions there

though....

[Inland]

37. I've lived in the north all my life, and never once. nt

[katinmn]

26. I've lived in MN all my life and I've heard it used in a derogatory way

go figure.

[Tunkamerica]

30. that's so weird

you'd think that since the stories were set down south, the lingo would be more popular here. Guess not.

[Inland]

35. No, it isn't.

It's a reference to one of those Brer Rabbit stories.

Or, Snow purposely used a racial epithet that didn't make any fucking sense at all in context.

I suppose we don't like him, so the latter it is! And Rove was indicted Friday.

[GodlessBiker]

24. Next he'll be using "jungle bunny."

SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE

Racist Word Association Interview

Interviewer.....Chevy Chase
Mr. Wilson.....Richard Pryor

Interviewer: Alright, Mr. Wilson, you've done just fine on the Rorshact.. your papers are in good order.. your file's fine.. no difficulties with your motor skills.. And I think you're probably ready for this job. We've got one more psychological test we always do here. It's just a Word Association. I'll throw you out a few words - anything that comes to your mind, just throw back at me, okay? It's kind of an arbitrary thing. Like, if I say "dog", you'd say..?

Mr. Wilson: "Tree".

Interviewer: "Tree". < nods head, prepares the test papers > "Dog".

Mr. Wilson: "Tree".

Interviewer: "Fast".

Mr. Wilson: "Slow".

Interviewer: "Rain".

Mr. Wilson: "Snow".

Interviewer: "White".

Mr. Wilson: "Black".

Interviewer: "Bean".

Mr. Wilson: "Pod".

Interviewer: < casually > "Negro".

Mr. Wilson: "Whitey".

Interviewer: "Tarbaby".

Mr. Wilson: < silent, sure he didn't hear what he thinks he heard > What'd you say?

Interviewer: < repeating > "Tarbaby".

Mr. Wilson: "Okay".

Interviewer: "Colored".

Mr. Wilson: "Redneck".

Interviewer: "Junglebunny".

Mr. Wilson: < starting to get angry > "Peckerwood!"

Interviewer: "Burrhead".

Mr. Wilson: < defensive > "Cracker!"

Interviewer: < aggressive > "Spearchucker".

Mr. Wilson: "White trash!"

Interviewer: "Jungle Bunny!"

Mr. Wilson: < upset > "Honky!"

Interviewer: "Spade!

Mr. Wilson: < really upset > "Honky Honky!"

Interviewer: < relentless > "Nigger!"

Mr. Wilson: < immediate > "Dead honky!" < face starts to flinch >

Interviewer: < quickly wraps the interview up > Okay, Mr. Wilson, I think you're qualified for this job. How about a starting salary of $5,000?

Mr. Wilson: Your momma!

Interviewer: < fumbling > Uh.. $7,500 a year?

Mr. Wilson: Your grandmomma!

Interviewer: < desperate > $15,000, Mr. Wilson. You'll be the highest paid janitor in America. Just, don't.. don't hurt me, please..

Mr. Wilson: Okay.

Interviewer: < relieved > Okay.

Mr. Wilson: You want me to start now?

Interviewer: Oh, no, no.. that's alright. I'll clean all this up. Take a couple of weeks off, you look tired.

< fade >

[BR_Parkway]

4. Is that KKKarl's new prison name? turdblossom = turd baby?

[dogday]

12. Or Baby Turd

however you like to see him as....

[MissB]

7. Actually, it was lard baby.

[orestes]

28. Color me stupid

but what is offensive about "tar baby"? Near as I know, the tar baby was a little scarecrow made out tar and used to trick Anansi into attacking it, thereby getting stuck, so he would stop eating all his families crops while they went hungry. The Tar Baby was also used again in the Brer Rabbit stories, but those are essentially just repackaged Anansi stories.

[katinmn]

31. For your education

http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19990212
The expression tar baby is also used occasionally as a derogatory term for black people (in the U.S. it refers to African-Americans; in New Zealand it refers to Maoris), or among blacks as a term for a particularly dark-skinned person. As a result, some people suggest avoiding the use of the term in any context.

[orestes]

32. Thanks

I've never heard of that before. What a shame that a perfectly good metaphor had to go and get ruined like that.

[katinmn]

33. I agree!

[JVS]

36. LOL!

:rofl: