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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:24 PM
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Pentagon Video seen here

www.ogrish.com
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:28 PM
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1. No jumbo jet in that vid bubba!
I'm not buying it any more than before. This is crap. That's a missle or some other small aircraft.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:31 PM
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3. that 'looked' like a patriot missle
sure didn't clear up anything.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:34 PM
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6. I've never seen the video or any images of the Pentagon from 9-11 on TV.
Edited on Tue May-16-06 04:35 PM by CottonBear
I was riding my horse that morning of 9-11 and then I spent the rest of the day at work listening to NPR and working on a 4pm deadline that I met. I didn't see a newspaper or TV until about 8 pm that night.

I've never focused on the Pentagon crash and only recently have read on DU about the missle theory.
I know that the people on the plane are dead. However, un;ess the Pentagon has eliminated a bunch of frames from the video, I see no jetliner in that video clip. I do see what could be evidence of a missle of some sort. The plane flying into the WTC were huge. COuldn't miss seeing those. I'm really skeptical because you know that if any place has tons of cameras everywhere, it's the Pentagon.
:tinfoilhat:
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:36 PM
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9. I know that the people on the plane are dead?
Oh really? How do you know? Because the tee vee and the pretzeldent toal you so?

Not trying to pick a fight, but really - how do we know? There is little associated with 9/11 that I believe other than the images of buildings collapsing in moments that terrified everyone - but beyond that, I don't believe much.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:59 PM
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14. I thought the same thing about some frames being missing.
Edited on Tue May-16-06 06:01 PM by 8_year_nightmare
Brian Williams explained the reason we saw the plane's nose in the first frame, then the explosion in the next is due to the high speed of the plane, causing a blur. :eyes:

Surely the Pentagon had more than one security camera catching this. Why supply just this view?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:31 PM
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2. 1) These images are not new. 2) These images don't prove a darned thing...
...I do not see a 757 anywhere in those clips...
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:32 PM
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4. thanks for that link
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:32 PM
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5. Whatever it is is never in the frame!
Edited on Tue May-16-06 04:33 PM by EstimatedProphet
They show a small part of it, then an explosion. There is no way to tell what that is!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:42 PM
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7. Whatever became of the wreckage, the bodies(parts) and debris
purses, wallets, clothes, etc????

Where is the Passenger list?

Who was on that Flight?

Gatta be sumthin left....
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:38 PM
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10. damn right
there is simply no explanation for the absence of marks on the adjacent walls for where the wings struck. Even the WTC showed slots where the wings entered. And no debris field on the lawn? And on and on and on...
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:48 PM
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8. With all the money the Pentagon spends
you'd think they would have cameras with better vision! Inconclusive! And I am not trying to be Art Bell here.
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Alleycat Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:38 PM
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11. Is there a segment missing?
I see something long and white come into the picture on the right, then I see the explosion. I never see the segment of the plane in the frame. Was this edited?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:42 PM
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12. Awfully damn small aircraft to be a commercial airliner
Maybe an Embraer or something but no 757 or whatever it was.

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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:49 PM
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13. Warning about ogrish.com: there are porn links within it; be careful on
employer-owned computers.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:07 PM
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15. Looks like a plane to me.
Well, it doesn't "look" like anything more than a white blur, in fact- but that video seems to be taken at a fairly low framerate. Add to that the fact that the plane is said to have been moving at 350mph, and I'm surprised it was ever in the shot at all.

It looks like a plane coming in accross the grass and plowing into the building. That's also alot more believable that actually managing to hit such a small building while the plane was in the air. It looks like they sort of "landed" into it.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:12 PM
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16. Bottom line is... if it was 757, you can NOT miss it!!!
757 is HUGE aircraft!!! Only way one misses 757, he/orshe MUST be totally blind!!!
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:15 PM
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17. There's almost zero sense of scale- or distance- in the shot.
Edited on Tue May-16-06 06:17 PM by Marr
I don't see how any size can be judged at all. I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a close Learjet and a distant 757 there.
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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:19 PM
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18. watch this
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