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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 05:21 PM Original message |
Joel Chandler Harris -> Uncle Remus -> Brer Rabbit -> Tar Baby |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't have to read about it, we had to live through |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Gah! |
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rpgamerd00d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. NO ONE, HE USED THE TERM PROPERLY TO REFER TO |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. that's my point nt |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Whatever you want to believe...have at it. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
32. There's is no proper way to use the term. |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. He called no one a tar baby. He used in in a phrase |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That is an asinine and ridiculous claim. |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I'll consider the source |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I'm not telling you HOW to think, I'm asking you TO think. |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 08:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I have a Masters Degree and I have been THINKING for my entire life |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Well, I marched for civil rights in the 1960s so lay your guilt trip on |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
49. Karl...see post #48 for a reply to you...posted mistakenly to another |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
54. How rude. |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Do you believe Huckleberry Finn is a racist work as well? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 07:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
46. And...your credentials and say...should be recognized...why not? n/t |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake here, Koko, but that went right over |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Oh Drat...sorry...was replying to another poster....sorry......... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Are you talking about the "Gullah" dialect? It's a legitimate dialect |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. You should read it. You may change your mind. |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. I read Uncle remus as a child. Had trouble with "bimeby". |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. On the tar baby: |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Yep. I was read Uncle Remus stories as a child |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Myself as well. And in later life being a rare book dealer |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I never thought Sambo was racist |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Our school library had a beautifully illustrated edition of "Sambo." |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. We had a beautifully illustrated version as well |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Some Indians are very dark complected. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yep |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. the illustrations were likely influenced by blackface caricatures of |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Yes...even as a little kid that seemed to be what the Tar Baby was.... |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. The only thing this controversy shows... |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 11:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. so all those blacks + whites who say they've only heard 'tar baby' |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 11:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. No, they're ignorant (which is what I said, I think). |
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Katarina (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. 'xcuse me |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I'm sorry... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. no more ignorant than those who argue that the phrase is simply |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Clearly, it is both |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. What Jack Rabbit said |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. So, your step-father was ignorant of American culture |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #17 |
31. It's always about how the words are used that causes the harm and the |
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kittykitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
23. "Song of the South", a film we'll never see resurrected |
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cmkramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. James Baskett |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 10:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Disney won't put it out on dvd for that very reason |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Yes....it was censored. It's a shame because it was a beautiful film and |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Exactly |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. yes.... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. I don't remember Uncle Remus being portrayed as a slave |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
35. I'm not sure which is worse. |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Did the OP say ANYTHING about Tony Snow? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Did I say anything about the OP? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
36. Why is it |
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SeveneightyWhoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
43. This whole "controversy" shows.. |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 08:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I'd rather believe that they were just literature-challenged than "stupid. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
51. The origins of the Tar Baby Story are West African |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You are right. |
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