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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 06:47 AM
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Labor Union Question(s)
Edited on Fri May-19-06 06:48 AM by SHRED
I work in Public Works for a city in CA.

We are "represented" by the Teamsters.
I put that in quotes because after issues I have had and witnessing how others have been treated, by the Local's leadership and Chief Steward, they are corrupted due to their cozy relationship with the city's management.
I have horror stories.

Our Local's headquarters/union hall is over 100 miles away.
I was wondering how difficult it is to change Locals?
To change Unions I realize is probably more difficult but is it possible to change to another Teamsters Local that would hopefully be more responsive and less miles away?
We have a few much closer.

It is just unconsciencable what I have witnessed over the last 16 years.
There is no heart and soul to our representation and the members have become apathetic as a result.
Many people have been burned and membership is way down.

I want another Local in here and I want to run for Chief Steward.

Thanks
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 07:12 AM
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1. Check out
http://www.aflcio.org/ or just visit the closest union hall and ask. If you're willing to work with and for the local, they will welcome you with open arms. It's really hard to get members to actually do something other than pay their dues and bitch.

You may have to send an email, but they would know. You might also think about changing your affiliation to the OPEIU if your job is in the office.

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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 08:24 AM
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2. You must be working in that local's jurisdiction
The locals are territorial jurisdictions set up by the IO (international organisation)

Your best recourse is to get a copy of the By-Laws and the Teamster's Constitution and learn the rules of your union. Prove where these guys are breaking their own rules (if they are) Then take that to the IO / National level

My brother and about 175 other employees were duped into joining a bogus made up union headed by a guy who has a resume up on the monster.com as a Union-Buster. To say the least they were getting screw pretty hard. My brother had to study all the By-laws (required by NLRB) to use against this guy to show legally how he was violating his own by laws.

There were several court apperances with the NLRB and he wow all but 1 of the decisions. They are in the process now of voting the guy out as president of the union and my brother works on the side for SEIU 24/7 (security guards)
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:19 AM
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3. Ah, you just had to open up that door.
If your alleged representation is cozy with management, then they are probably cozy with the NLRB as well. Good luck going after a union, as a member, because the NLRB will protect the union from corruption charges and unfair labor practices.

Now, as for your request to JAM YOUR TICKET, go home you fucking traveler! Yes, there are certain hoops you can jump through, but that is a heavily guarded secret. Perhaps you can help out the Local's leadership on the weekends, free of charge of course, and do some dirty work for them, so nothing is ever linked back to them (keeps shit off the record that way, ya know, wink wink nod nod). Do not 'jam your ticket,' or you subject yourself to harassment, death threats to you and your family, violent attacks on you and your family, felony property damage, and forced (who can work under that?) unemployment.

Even if busted, the NLRB will only say there was evidence of hostility, but nothing that directly links it to the union (never mind everyone and the NLRB knows that it came from the union, with leadership help, wink wink nod nod). So, again, you will be stuck in a miserable position of forced unemployment forever (remember, who can work under violent attacks), quitting the union all together, or just fucking offing yourself, like the union wants, because you went by the WRITTEN RULES instead of the "unspoken rule."

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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:29 AM
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4. As far as Public Works for the city
I'm surprised the Teamsters were choosen for representation. Usually it is IBEW 1245 Utility workers
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 09:49 AM
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5. Well, if the Utility workers
From the IBEW are anything like their fellow members in the IBEW, read the post again. Violence against fellow workers in the IBEW, is the standard MO for those who follow the written rules and the law, instead of mystical 'unspoken rules' in the IBEW, that only enables corruption and an organized crime mentality.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:03 PM
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6. You have lots of accusations and no proof
I believe the official term is Full of BullShit

Fact is plenty of unions had strong arm tactics years ago. About the same time Business owners often used hired guns to randomly shoot and kill union organisers. Or like when the dock owners had the National Gaurd shoot 27 striking workers on the docks of San Francisco.

Fact is Pro-Slave labor employers use tons of rumor and lies to frieghten those the seek to exploit from organising. Just as we see dishonest business owners and corporate America jump up and down screaming "IF WE RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE EVERY BUSINESS IN AMERICA WILL BE FORCED TO CLOSE THEIR DOORS

ITS ALL BULL SHIT

Raising minimum wage has been proven good for the economy and business claims FALSE time and time again. In fact each time they raise the minimum wage, as we here this same old tired worn out lie again and again

Now as far as NLRB being "cohorts" of the unions, that is just PURE BULL SHIT. In fact they are there to regulate unions

NOW PLEASE DO TELL US OH MIGHTY KNOWLEDGABLE ONE

Why we must get rid of workers safty programs, worker rights, over time pay, paid holidays. Because that is the same shit we hear out of DIS-INFORMATION ARTIST who want to blame unions for the whoas of American businesses

Actually that line of BullShit will work much better over at Freeper land
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 02:32 PM
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7. DON'T FUCKING TELL ME I HAVE NO PROOF!
Edited on Fri May-19-06 02:40 PM by Kansas Wyatt
I have a whole file of it, along with a myriad of letters from the IBEW and their chicken shit fat cat attorney (who just happened to be good friends and college buddy with the NLRB attorney). I know exactly how the IBEW operates, and the extent of their violent tactics. I never claimed that the NLRB was a bad thing, but it can be corrupted, just like everything else. If you think the truth deserves to be silenced from the DU, perhaps you should visit freeperville, because that sounds like a BushBot mentality.

Still want to scream freeper attack, just do yourself a favor and Google the NLRB files to lose your phony accusation. And, you will only see a fraction of IBEW violence, since the union's victims (MEMBERS) are starved, strong-armed, and manipulated to and in 'Appeals Committee Meetings' (arbitrator good friends with the NLRB attorney) after years of dragging it out and when it is about to go before a judge to get placed on the record. The union rep strangely had the very same sound bites as a freeper as well. Gee, I wonder why.

Takes very fine UNION 'Brothers' to violently attack, victimize, and severely damage a fellow Union 'Brother' / worker and his family, now doesn't it?

Perhaps you would be happier if the victimized union brother was killed or his family was killed to prove your point, but how much is enough?


As for all the other shit you threw at me, go fuck yourself, because you are spewing your shit in the wrong direction. Apparently you hate 'travelers' who choose to exercise their rights under the law and in agreements across the nation, instead of following mystical 'unspoken rules.'

What are these unspoken rules?
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