I saw a black, unmarked helicopter hovering west of Johnstown, PA.

[Metta]

It was uncommonly thin and very black. The *only* possible thing, that I can think of, that's out there is a nuclear power plant, somewhere near Blairsville.

[htuttle]

1. Do you get those "CAMP" anti-marijuana-grower operations around there?

The couple of times I've seen 'CAMP' helicopters, they looked like black Apaches (or some other thinner chopper -- all black, though).

Not really sure this would be a productive time of year for them to look for pot patches, but maybe they're looking for patches-in-the-making out in the middle of nowhere?

:shrug:

[Metta]

2. Can't say. I'm not from there. Just passing through.

Haven't seen anything in the news either. Good point, though.

[XboxWarrior]

44. Put down the......

Crack Pipe.



and step away from your computer...........

[Aviation Pro]

3. There is a US Army aviation training center....

...to the west of the airport (KJST). It's the industrial area toward the middle left of the photo (just off runway 15). Click on the link to see the photo:

http://66.226.83.248/ap/02301

The complex is courtesy of John Murtha.

[Metta]

7. I think you could be on to something.

Many thanks. That sure beats being spied on.

[otherlander]

17. Oh, don't worry, they're spying on you, too.

But they have satalites for that. The helecoptors are just for attacking Iran. There. Doesn't that make you feel better?

[Metta]

18. I'm going to my home. There's nothing to see here.

Thanks for your comforting words. :hi:

[MercutioATC]

37. Yes there is (actually, Marines). And they fly these:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ah-1-pics.htm

[Aviation Pro]

39. It's an all service facility....

...but it's run by the Army as an extension of Rucker. Also, check out the C-12 that goes in there occasionally.

[Metta]

40. It looked like an AH-1F Cobra.

Very thin, no middle bubble.

[rzemanfl]

4. Never call a helicopter "black and unmarked" on DU. I made

that mistake once, say "no visible markings," otherwise, you get a whole bunch of asinine posts back saying they are marked but " in a subtle way" and shit like that. I saw a fucking Blackhawk that was flat dark grey LAND thirty yards away from me that had no visible markings that would enable a person to identify it and got a bunch of stupid replies that made it sound like I was some sort of nut case. My response was that my car has a serial number on the dash, so why would I need a license plate?

[Metta]

5. It takes all sorts.

Sorry to hear that some folks brought you their conflict. That's on them. Unfortunately, that's the price we pay for an open forum.

[NJCher]

23. I know the drill

...that mistake once, say "no visible markings," otherwise, you get a whole bunch of asinine posts back saying they are marked but " in a subtle way" and shit like that.

Tell me about it. Make an error on a thread and you will get comments back so fast your head will spin. This place is full of know-it-alls who just love to correct.

I made the mistake of accepting what another poster said about Rolling Rock being owned by a smaller, regional company. Bada bing, bada bang, the thread fills up with research on the former owner of RR.

But I'll take 'em over freepers anyday. Better to be a know-it-all than a no-nothing redneck.




Cher

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. Didja see me wavin' at ya???? n/t

[Metta]

8. I thought I recognized the quantum dot.

:) :hi:

[HysteryDiagnosis]

9. Yes, I was here, then I was there... then I was here again... glad you

noticed my fleeting wave... heh heh heh..... :)

[idgiehkt]

10. We had one of these hovering in the sky about a mile from my house

About 2 months ago. For about a half an hour. It was so weird. Totally black. It was there so long my dog started barking at it. weird.

[sam sarrha]

11. we had 6 Chinooks fly over the house about 100 feet full throtle.. in a

string formation..there was stuff falling off shelves and the windows were rattling and the dog was barking his head of stuck half under the bed.. just his but sticking out.

i got a real close look at them i saw no visible markings, i have see them here several times and in CO i saw cobras and blackhawks. whenever i have seen them here they are hauling ass REAL LOW.. i am in Dyer TN, 36 miles north of jackson and 90 miles from Memphis

[kybob]

12. its not the black ones you have to watch out for

its the ones in ordinary colors that can get you. these helicopters carry a full spectrum of heavy fire power. what the FBI is doing with this shit is beyond my comprehension.

The MD-530s are similar in configuration to the MH-6 "Little Birds" used by the US Army's 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (at one time the HRT "little birds" were also painted back, but FBI HQ ordered them repainted to a new color after all of the media hoopla about government commandos zooming around the night skies in black helicopters). The HRT also maintains agreements that allow it access to military transport aircraft for rapid deployment of its personnel and equipment.


http://www.specwarnet.com/taclink/Federal/FBI_HRT.htm

[Metta]

14. Yeah, I felt uneasy and angry but, I guess, that's the point.

Those bastards.

[The Gunslinger]

13. Hey, I'm From Johnstown, PA.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

15. Me too.

Don't live there now, but get back on occasion for a fix.



http://www.visitjohnstownpa.com/

[Metta]

16. My friends live in Westmont. Just off Goucher and Menocher.

By the Eat and Park.

[Kingofalldems]

19. Is The Point stadium being replaced?

I thiught I heard something like that.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

25. Not sure about that...

but this thread is definitely bringing back fond childhood memories!

[Bunny]

46. Did you get to many of the AAABA games?

That's a childhood memory for me!

[happyslug]

29. Yes it is, they torn down the old Stadium last year

And building a new one as we speak (They started building it last year).

[WorseBeforeBetter]

22. Kewl. I lived in Geistown and spent time in Moxham as a kid...

but loved Westmont. Hope those beautiful old homes are being kept up. Or better yet, hope there's no McMansion crowd knocking them down!

[The Gunslinger]

42. Cool I lived in Westmont.

Right by Grandview cemetery.

[Metta]

47. Cool.

I'm sure I've past your house. :hi: :)

[hootinholler]

27. Ligonier here

I'm in Md now but still have family up that way.

-Hoot

[WorseBeforeBetter]

32. Hey Hoot.

I lived in MD and VA for years after J-town, but it's always good to get back to southwestern PA!

[hootinholler]

49. Yep...

Takes me back to simpler times. I remember the Nat. Guard unit doing a drill to round up protestors/control the anticipated riot. This was right before Kent State.

Darth was looking at properties near there, I heard.

-Hoot

[Metta]

41. I lived in Ligonier for a couple, three years in the early '80s.

Right in town. At the end of Church Stree, just below the high school. A lovely place. You couldn't get a corned beef sandwich if your life depended on it but a fried fish sandwhich bigger than your head, no problem. :)

[hootinholler]

48. Down by Indian St?

LOL about the corned beef sammich.

-Hoot

[Metta]

50. ... don't remember where Indian Street is.

I remember that if you walked down the alley which ran to the left of my house and you hit Main Street, you'd be at or right near M's restaurant.

[hootinholler]

51. Indian Street

Is the cross st. right before the Mill Creek (crick) bridge on Church. You'll be happy to know that the pie shop is still in laughlintown and the diner is still there, but called Ruthies now.

-Hoot

[Metta]

52. Thanks for the update.

The place I miss most is the family farm just down the road from the pie shop that used to smoke their own meats. Their turkey breast was a real treat. Once in a great while, I'll drive through there on a trip to Johnstown. Not often, though. I usually go across 22 so I can stop at Clem's Cafe for their superb barbecue.

[femmocrat]

20. I grew up in Johnstown.

Still visit family up there. :hi:

No idea what the helicopters are doing.... maybe they are trying to harass Murtha for his anti-war statements?

[Metta]

21. Hi, femm. Welcome to DU.

As I said, my friends live in Westmont. I get out there a couple of times a year. We're southwest of Pittsburgh now, close to the WV and OH borders. :hi: :donut:

[femmocrat]

24. Thanks!

Nice to meet you Metta.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

26. That thought crossed my mind - Murtha territory.

Hello from a fellow J-towner!

[Elwood P Dowd]

28. Why do you never talk about white, unmarked helicopters?

You sound like Lou Dobbs.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[happyslug]

30. I see "black" Helicopters ALL the time when I go to the Mall.

The new mall is just opposite the Johnstown Airport and they fly Apaches or Cobras all the time out of The Johnstown Airport (I remember seeing them and looking at them and they being Attack Helicopters of I type I know, but for the life me I can not remember the type right now, I believe they were Cobras but they may have been Apaches).

Yes, the copters were ALL dark colored (i.e. "Black") but clearly were on maneuvers when they were flying.

[MercutioATC]

38. They're Cobras

Cobra AH-1W's to be precise.

[seabeyond]

31. anyone know sites for military planes? thin copter looked like shark

side fins like

also we have a huge ass plane that flies slow over town two three times a week

i would like to look these up. especially the plane. saw underneath real clearly the other day

[MercutioATC]

36. HMLA-775 (Marine light attack helicopter squadron) is based in Johnstown.

http://www.mfr.usmc.mil/4thMAW/MAG49/hmla775deta.htm

They fly these:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ah-1-pics.htm

[bleedingheart]

33. I have seen fighter aircraft over the Irwin area..

nothing new...

My uncle used to be a base commander at a nuclear installation here in Irwin back in the 70's...they thought it was a nike missile base ...but it was ICBMs that they were guarding with tanks and machine guns...

Only after it was declassified did he tell us that we had nukes in our backyard...all to guard the steel mills...

[Phoonzang]

34. Did you notice what model of copter it was?

I'm just curious. Anyway, I'm sure all those billions they put into black budget projects go somewhere. You probably saw a heli from one of the many secret agencies we know nothing about. *shrugs*

[Metta]

43. It looked like an AH-1F Cobra.

All thin, no middle bubble.

[The Straight Story]

35. I saw a black, unarmed man near my house.

Scared the hell out of my racist neighbors :)

[dogday]

45. One night 3 Big Black Helicoptors

flew over our home and all the windows and glass shook like hell, plus they had their lights on the ground like they were looking for something... Houston has all kinds of flying things, all the time....

[tll]

53. eek

I'm debating whether to tell a friend with whom I work ... I'm at the office now, in J-town, on Franklin ... don't know if he was kidding or not but he also often claims to see a black SUV parked across the street....

We're working on a brochure and website for an evironmental non-profit, hope our hard drives don't get hauled off by The Man today ...

[Stevendsmith]

54. Black Helicopters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_helicopter_conspiracy_theory