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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:21 AM
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OH EFFIN' BROTHER (Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs)
Edited on Sat May-20-06 07:48 AM by Hissyspit
Anyone managing to find this list by hook or by crook, please post, so that we can all be amused by it in detail.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2006/05/19/songs/index.html

War Room
Tim Grieve

Sex, drugs and a federal government small enough to drown in a bathtub

The National Review is out today with its list of the "Top 50 Conservative Rock Songs of All Time." What makes a great conservative rock song? "The lyrics must convey a conservative idea or sentiment, such as skepticism of government or support for traditional values," John Miller says in a post at The Corner.

Which songs make the list? We wish we could tell you, but an online peek would have set us back $21.95 -- money we'll be dropping on the new Neil Young CD instead. Maybe one of you could tell us. Failing that, you're hereby invited to make up your own list in the comments section below.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:23 AM
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1. I would love to see that list.
But I sure as hell ain't going to pay 22 bucks to National Review.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:27 PM
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49. Ask, and ye shall receive.
Edited on Sat May-20-06 03:28 PM by Patsy Stone
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:51 PM
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52. Let's try that again. Here's the list:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:32 PM
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58. "I Can't Drive 55" a protest of the 'nanny state?' SO MUCH FOR THE LAW
AND ORDER party! Shit...

Thanks for posting.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:36 PM
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59. Revolution??
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

And: LEAVE THE KINKS OUT OF IT!!!! :)
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:41 PM
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61. Ray Davies is IRONIC. Idiots.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:56 PM
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63. THE CLASH?! Are these people high?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:00 AM
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64. Yes.
Chrissie Hynde? BWAHAHAHAHAH!
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:35 AM
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2. Since when is
"skepticism of government" a conservative value? Obviously this idea came from someone who never listened to the music of the 60's. The neocon theme song should be Phil Ochs' "Draft Dodger Rag"
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:33 AM
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30. I don't know that that's an unfair claim for paleoconservatives.
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:36 AM
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3. I managed to get part of the list
Charlie Daniels--"I'm a fat, ugly redneck and proud of it"
Kid Rock --------" Moran is my middle name"
Darryl Worley -------"When the chickenhawk soars"
Ricky Skaggs ---------- "My corporation, Right or Wrong"
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:39 AM
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5. Don't forget Garth "I love Wal-mart" Brooks
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:34 AM
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16. When I first read those
I thought every one was a real song. Especially Kid Rock "Moran is my middle name"
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:36 AM
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31. You forgot Ted Nugent
"Shooting Looney Leftists With My Favorite Gun"
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:37 AM
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32. Don't forget Lee Greenwood's immortal
"Abolish Capital Gains Taxes for those in the upper brackets"

And his all time favorite:

"The 14th Amendment has put a hurtin' on me."
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:39 AM
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4. Hell, we should make our own list...
...

The Beatles - Money (That's What I Want)
King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:40 AM
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6. Pink Floyd...Money
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:46 AM
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7. I'm a Loser - The Beatles
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:48 AM
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8. Dead Kennedys - Kill The Poor
"Kill The Poor"

Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home:

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:38 AM
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33. No way!! They can't have John Lennon!!
Some other group will have to copy that song. And best of luck getting the rights from Apple Music to do that! LOL
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:03 PM
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40. John would turn in his grave
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:48 AM
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38. I guess conservatives would not realize that "Money" is a sarcastic
song that totally bashes conservative greed.

Pink Floyd are masters at writing sarcastic lyrics about social and economic inequality.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:10 PM
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41. That is far and away my favorite early Beatles song
It is pre-punk punk, with the same dripping sarcasm as God Save the Queen or similar hoots.
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:55 PM
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47.  I agree with you Roger Waters of Pink Floyd was
being his usual sarcastic self about the importance of money.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:33 AM
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10. Here's the Cd I play whenever passing through Crawford
At full volume with the windows down.

1. Country Joe And The Fish- “An Untitled Protest”
2. Jefferson Airplane- “Crown Of Creation”
3. Donovan- “Universal Soldier”
4. Phil Ochs- “Draft Dodger Rag”
5. Paul Kantner- “Flowers of the Night”
6. Buffalo Springfield- “For What It's Worth”
7. Creedence Clearwater Revival- “Fortunate Son”
8. Phil Ochs- “I Ain't Marching Anymore”
9. Country Joe- “I Feel Like I'm Fixing To Die Rag”
10. Bob Dylan- “Masters of War”
11. Paul Kantner- “Mau Mau (Amerikon)”
12. Mick_Star- “Jets”
13. Graham Nash- “Military Madness”
14. Steppenwolf-“Monster “
15. Coven- “One Tin Soldier”
16. Eric Burdon And The Animals- “Skypilot”
17. Rolling Stones- “Sweet Neo Con”
18. The Doors- “The Unknown Soldier”
19. Hot Tuna- “Uncle Sam Blues”
20. James Mc Murtry- “We Can't Make It Here Anymore”
21. John Prine- “Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore”
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:11 PM
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42. What a great list! :) (eom)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:13 PM
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43. good for you!
I guess you have to keep the car pretty well tuned up too!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:55 AM
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9. One of the comments on Salon.com included this link to an older list
the Top 40 Conservative Pop Songs (circa 2002)

Not only does the author list the tunes, he explains why they support the Conservative POV.

1. Paul Anka, (You're) Having My Baby
2. The Beatles, Revolution
3. Chuck Berry and Linda Ronstadt (Separate Recordings), Back In the U.S.A.
4. James Brown, It's a Man's Man's Man's World
5. The Browns, The Three Bells
6. Johnny Burnette, God, Country and My Baby
7. The Byrds, Turn! Turn! Turn!
8. Judy Collins, Amazing Grace
9. Charlie Daniels Band, In America
10. Neil Diamond, America

The rest here: http://www.townhall.com/phillysoc/bartlettpaper.htm

Have at it, DUers. :)
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WinterBybee Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:45 AM
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11. Conservatives' tin ear
When it comes to rock music, the Right clearly has a tin ear, as revealed by the Top 50 choices of conservative rock songs.

1) There's a basic truth about popular music that they utterly fail to comprehend. The message and music transcend the lyrics to convey a much more powerful message. "I Fought the Law (and the Law Won) is not about conceding to the power of authority; it's about defiance against the odds. That's why the revoluntary band The Clash did a re-make.

Similarly, "Street Fighting Man" complains about "sleepy London town" and the passivity
of the English in confronting authority, but the furious tone of the lyrics and
pulsing music made it a revolutionary anthem (friends of mine used to listen to
that song before going out to engage in hard-core physical combat with the cops.)

2) The choices also reveal the primitive racism of the Right (the glorification of the
the infantile "Sweet Home Alabama," answered in a hard-hitting song by the late, great
Warren Zevon about the blunted consciousness of white Southerners trapped in a sick culuture being shafted) and its nostalgic affection for the good old days --never to return--when women stayed in their place. Notably, the author chose to ignore Lynyrd Skynyrd's far better "Saturday Night Special" which has a truly kick-ass sound and a powerful message about the foolish gun-toting culture of America.

The Top 50 list is both reminder of the culture that the American Taliban would impose and the Right's
inability to understand anything about popular culture.

Roger Bybee, Milwaukee.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:28 AM
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29. The author of the Top 40 list also had no sense of musical history
Edited on Sat May-20-06 10:28 AM by mcscajun
or song origins.

"Kingston Trio, M.T.A. The M.T.A. in this song is Boston's Metropolitan Transit Authority, which levied a burdensome tax on the people of that city in the form of a subway fare increase. I included this song because it embodies a libertarian disdain for high taxes."

Here's the political lyric of note:

Fight the fare increase! Vote for George O'Brien! Get poor Charlie off the M. T. A.

The "George O'Brien" in the song was really Walter A. O'Brien, Jr. a Progressive Party politician from Boston, who ran for mayor of Boston in 1949. He had a novel approach to campaigning, using songs written for him by local folk musicians and playing them on what was then a commonplace: a loudspeaker truck. (Charlie on the)M.T.A. was one of those songs.

Walter was changed to George by the Kingston Trio after the Progressive Party's public image became associated with the Communist Party in the 1950s.

So, this dingbat, wingnut listmaker doesn't even know this was a Progressive Party candidate's campaign tune! It's priceless, truly.

PS: I'm still on the hunt for the List from National Review mentioned in the OP.

:rofl:
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:15 AM
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13. Revolution by the Beatles?
in what crazy mixed up world is that a wight wing song?

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can

But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait / Don't you know...


You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead

But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow / Don't you know...
All right, all right...
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:55 AM
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22. This song was specifically critical of the New Left....
in the late 60s. That hardly makes it Conservative.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:17 AM
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27. Here's the author's "rationale" if that can be said to be one...
"The reason is that it is fundamentally anti-revolution."
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:38 AM
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37. What dummies!
What about their glorification of the "American Revolution?!"

lol They totally missed Lennon's point. Naturally.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:54 AM
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20. The Three Bells - LOL
I wonder if those conservative wunderkinds realize that this is actually a song written by -gasp!- the French (lyrics: Bert Reisfeld and music by Jean Villard).

The best-known version of it was sung by -gasp!- a Frenchwoman, Edith Piaf (Les Trois Cloches).

Why do conservatives hate America?

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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:18 AM
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28. I Fought the Law is a conservative song?
A song that glorifies youthful rebellion against oppressive authority is conservative? I'd like some of what that guy smoked before he compiled that list.

And Ruby is about as anti-war as older country songs get. And considering that My Sweet Lord didn't exactly celebrate the right wing Christian god, I'm surprised it's there.

God these people are just stupid. They really don't understand music, do they?
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:39 AM
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34. No, not really. It's as boggling as hearing that Ann Coulter dug
the Grateful Dead.

She Obviously never "got it" when it came to the Dead's music.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:48 AM
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12. I didn't know Ted Nugent had written 50 songs.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:15 AM
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26. Ha!
:rofl:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:21 AM
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14. I bet "Working on the Chain Gang" is right near the top
:shrug: Is it possible for someone with no heart to appreciate Rock. You must have heart and soul or it's only noise..
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:29 AM
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15. When the Levee Breaks, - Led Zeppelin
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:46 AM
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35. I like the 1928 original better
by Memphis Minnie and Kansas Joe McCoy
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:34 AM
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17. "Ballad of the Green Berets"?
"16 tons"?

Hmmmmm.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:47 AM
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18. I can already guess a few...
Sweet Home Alabama

Takin' Care of Business

One in a Million (Guns & Roses)




Then of course there are the ones like "Pink Houses" which are totally anti-conservative, but that conservatives are too stupid to understand...

I can hardly wait to read the list.
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:52 AM
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19. I wouldn't be surprised if "Born In The USA" was on the list.
Conservatives never understood that one, either.
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:57 AM
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23. Yup. Reagan famously misunderstood it...
...thought it was a Lee Greenwood-style anthem. Even at age 15, I knew there was something deeper to it.

Poor old red-ink Ronnie. Even more clueless than the average POS conservative.
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:14 AM
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25. Yup, it's glaringly obvious
if you actually listen to the lyrics instead of trying to mindlessly co-opt the song as being rah-rah flag-waving "Morning (actually should have been mourning) in America" jingoistic Presidential election fodder.

Obviously Reagan (or whoever chose the song for him) never got past the chorus.

I was 14 when the whole "Born In The USA" Springsteen frenzy took place, and I clearly understood it as being an anti-war song, as well.

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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:55 AM
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21. National Review? Oh boy.
I used to subscribe to that rage about 14 years ago, when I was still a Limbaugh-listening idiot. It was one of the stodgiest, squarest, lamest magazines ever, with the worst design sense ever. :puke: God only knows what their idea of a good rock song is....
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:59 AM
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24. "Back On The Chain Gang" ?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:30 AM
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36. My take on the list, FWIW (which may not be much)
Edited on Sat May-20-06 11:39 AM by BerryBush
1. "You're Having My Baby." When they call Paul Anka "prolific," do they mean that in more ways than one? Incidentally, this song was chosen as the Number One Worst Song of All Time in a recent CNN poll. But bad as it is, it's really only about TWO people and ONE woman's personal decision not to have an abortion. It's not necessarily speaking for everyone the way that old lost Seals & Crofts "Unborn Child" song does. As for the Sex Pistols song cited, well, forgive me but it's hard for me to think of any group including Sid Vicious as pro-life right about now.

2. "Revolution." They completely misunderstood this one. While it does denounce revolting just for revolting's sake--which apparently John Lennon thought some lefties were doing--it hardly advocates conservatism. It should also be noted that its author changed his mind considerably about the value of revolution during his own lifetime.

3. "Back in the U.S.A." Uh, so because this is a "patriotic" song, that automatically makes it a "conservative" song? Loving your country makes you a conservative by definition? Don't get me started.

4. "It's a Man's Man's Man's World." Well, yeah, I guess this is "conservative" in that it completely fails to recognize anything women have accomplished and glorifies the fact that "Man made the bullet for the war." Goody goody.

5. "The Three Bells." Uh, if this song is French, how can it POSSIBLY be of any good to conservatives? Don't those French realized we saved their stinking asses in Dubya Dubya Two, The Big One? Trying to make themselves sound like brave people who give up their sons to war. Hmph! The nerve of those arrogant bastards!

6. "God, Country and My Baby." Yeah, OK. But for a nice contrast to this one--a tale of how going off to war for God, country and my baby doesn't always pay off--try B.J. Thomas's "Billy and Sue."

7. "Turn! Turn! Turn!" The fact that this song, written by one of the great lefty songwriters, is being hailed as a "conservative" song is only proof positive that the righties think they have a right to co-opt God, the Bible and anything that has to do with them as MINE, MINE, MINE, you can't have it!

8. "Amazing Grace." Same principle. Everyone knows you can't possibly believe in God's salvation and be a LIBERAL. Don't they???

9. "In America." An embarrassing flag-waving period piece from the time when the Soviets were in Afghanistan. They can have it.

10. "America" by Neil Diamond. Hmm. Let's see, this song is about immigrants coming to America to find a new home. So that automatically makes it conservative? Because it's patriotic, right--and all patriotic songs are conservative by definition? Umm, all I have to say is, them immigrants better be LEGAL--otherwise we're throwin' 'em all out on their asses! 'Cause that's the conservative way!

11. "Jesus Is Just Alright." Yep, if the conservatives can co-opt God and the Bible, of course they can co-opt Jesus. Jesus was a Republican, as we all know. Sure.

12. "I Don't Know How to Love Him." Hey, wait, you guys. This is a song supposedly being sung by Mary Magdalene about Jesus, and as the author of this article even admitted, it borders on the erotic. DA VINCI CODE ALERT! DA VINCI CODE ALERT!! We can't have none of that implication in there that some WOMAN might have loved Jesus as a MAN! Ohhh, noooooo!!!! How can anyone think this is a "conservative" song?

13. "West of the Wall." Never heard of this one, so have to take his word on the theme. But "West of the Wall, that soon will fall" is hardly what one would call "prescient." From 1962 to 1989 is not "soon." And what exactly is it that makes this song "conservative"? The fact that it is anti-communist and pro-freedom? Oh, yeah, sure. We all know only conservatives are opposed to communism and only conservatives love freedom!

14. "God Bless America." Again, I guess this is because any and all patriotic songs, and all songs featuring God, are by definition conservative. Yeah, sure. (sigh)

15. "I Fought the Law." This one made the chart because of its "strong law and order message." Oh, of course. Everyone knows that liberals are all in favor of guys robbing people with a sixgun.

16. "Day By Day." Again, the conservatives co-opt God.

17. "God Bless the USA." I'll give them this one. It's so mindless that to me it well characterizes some conservatives, anyway. Also, gotta love the murdering of the language. "I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free"? I thought we wanted all our kids to speak English?

18. "My Sweet Lord." The author of the article says "being deeply religious makes the song per se conservative." Shh. Don't tell the Wiccans.

19. "Oh Happy Day." Again, I guess Jesus belongs to the conservatives.

20. "Battle of New Orleans." Again, I guess patriotism belongs to the conservatives.

21. "The Star-Spangled Banner." Ditto.

22. "Wings of a Dove." Reread 16.

23. "Amen." Ditto.

24. "Only in America." Jeez, it always seemed to me that this "anyone can get ahead here" song was a little tongue-in-cheek to me. Then again, I prefer Leonard Bernstein's "(I Like to Be in) America," which was a little more cynical.

25. "Philadelphia Freedom." The author of the article claims the song was not written, as some claim, as a tribute to Billie Jean King and her tennis team, but if so, why is it that I recall one of my sisters having a copy of the 45 that explicitly stated that right on the label? Anyway, I have to laugh when the author claims he's naming this song to his list DESPITE Elton John's being gay.

26. "M.T.A." This one is included because it is one of a group of "anti-tax" songs. Oh, please.

27. "Sunny Afternoon." Ditto.

28. "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands." Reread 16.

29. "Sweet Home Alabama." They can have that one, too. But I think the author misunderstood the lyrics a tad. While he gets it right when he says that it was a pro-George Wallace song, how does the line "Watergate does not bother me" make it a "conservative classic"? The contrast between Wallace and Nixon was not exactly conservative vs. liberal. Nixon was hardly what anyone would call a liberal, and Watergate was hardly what anyone would call a scandal liberals should be ashamed about being responsible for. All this song is saying in its pro-Wallace, anti-Nixon lyrics is "Southerners may have voted for a racist president in 1968, but at least they didn't vote for a crook." Big whoop.

30. "Papa Don't Preach." Hmm. Are the friends who are telling Madonna to "give it up" necessarily encouraging her to get an abortion? Maybe they're just suggesting she have her baby adopted? How does that make this song automatically "pro-life"?

31. "Battle Hymn of the Republic." Yeah, let's take another patriotic song about God and co-opt it. Even though so many people associate it with JFK, RFK and MLK. Sure!

32. "Put Your Hand in the Hand." Reread 19.

33. "Crying in the Chapel." 16, 19, lather, rinse, repeat.

34. "Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town." OK, so poor fella gets injured in 'Nam, loses the use of his lower body, and now has to tolerate an unfaithful wife flaunting her tomkittening ways in front of him. Tell me again how this makes this song "conservative." Is it because he expresses a desire to shoot her dead?

35. "The Ballad of the Green Berets." I'll give them this one. Yuk.

36. "Wishin' and Hopin'." Same thing here. They can have all blatantly sexist ballads that advocate women doing only what men want them to do. Where's Tom Jones's "She's a Lady," for heavens' sakes? Or that awful song "Girl Talk" that characterizes women as hopeless gossipy chatterboxes but we love 'em anyway, don't we, fellas?

37. "Love Child." So, now, any song in which a woman expresses abstinence as her personal choice of birth control is automatically conservative? Oh, and especially so because she's BLACK. You know how it is when those people get to overbreedin'.

38. "Ball of Confusion." This one made the list merely because of the line "Politicians say mo' taxes will solve everything"? What about these lines: "People moving out, people moving in. Why? Because of the color of their skin," and "People all over the world are shouting, 'End the war'"? Do we just ignore those?

39. "Where the Stars and the Stripes and the Eagle Fly." Never heard of this alleged hit, but it sounds like a patriotic flag-waver designed to capitalize on 9/11. If so, they can have it.

40. "Stand By Your Man." Reread 36.

Man, what a pathetic list. And the fact that he even considered adding "Summertime Blues" (which implies that politicians only care about people who can vote for them), "Wake Up Little Susie" (so a song about two teens being afraid that their friends will gossip about them being out all night is conservative?), "Spirit in the Sky" (again, the 16 rule), and anything else that is either patriotic, pro-fatherhood or has to do with the military says a lot.

But best of all is that little shot that Al Wilson's "The Snake" "explains liberalism." Ah...This one tells the fable of a cold, hungry, dying snake that pleads with a woman to take him in and feed him. Being tenderhearted and thinking the snake is rather pretty, she takes him in, warms him, and feeds him--only to receive a fatal bite from him. When she asks him, dying, how he could do this to her after what she did for him, he says "You knew I was a snake before you took me in."

So there you have it, folks. That's his view of liberals--they beg for you to give people things they haven't earned--people who will then repay you by biting you in the butt. Of course, you do realize he wasn't speaking of corporate welfare there. Right?

Well, enough of that. I've gone on enough miles. What's left to say but...how lame.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:01 PM
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39. "16 Tons", by Tennessee Ernie Ford, "Chain Gang", by Sam Cooke,
are two songs that come to my mind right off the bat.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:46 PM
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46. Yours is the 2nd mention of 16 Tons, but if you listen to the words
you'll see that it was a song about a working man trying to make ends meet despite living in a Corporate Town in Corporate Housing with a Corporate Store. I don't remember if the song includes this, but that kind of worker was also paid in Corporate Dollars rather than real money.

Ford's song is complaining about the conditions in which people were forced to work pre-union. I can't see how that song is even remotely conservative. Maybe it's just me?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:12 PM
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54. No, of course you're right! It's an anti-Company song.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:59 AM
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66. Conservatives like to hear that their system of crushing working
Edited on Sun May-21-06 10:02 AM by Zorra
folks under long hours of hard labor and debilitating debt is working.

Since conservatives are forbidden to own slaves, it's the next best thing.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:41 PM
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44. Here's tbogg's take on it....
"For the record, using the expression "rock on!" is de facto evidence that John Miller has at least one Richard Marx CD in his collection, a Quarterflash 1981 Harden My Heart Tour t-shirt in his closet, and children who privately cringe when their friends come over and Dad wants to "hang out" and "rap" with them."

http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2006/05/i-am-not-of-this-world-i-know-what.html
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:29 PM
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45. Well, you can bet there's no Woody Guthrie on there!
http://www.woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/All_You_Fascists.htm

All You Fascists

I’m gonna tell you fascists
You may be surprised
The people in this world
Are getting organized
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose

Race hatred cannot stop us
This one thing we know
Your poll tax and Jim Crow
And greed has got to go
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose.

All of you fascists bound to lose:
I said, all of you fascists bound to lose:
Yes sir, all of you fascists bound to lose:
You’re bound to lose! You fascists:
Bound to lose!

People of every color
Marching side to side
Marching ‘cross these fields
Where a million fascists dies
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose!

I’m going into this battle
And take my union gun
We’ll end this world of slavery
Before this battle’s won
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose!


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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:13 PM
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48. dupe
Edited on Sat May-20-06 03:39 PM by Patsy Stone
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 08:49 PM
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50. kick
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:11 PM
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51. would've guessed Top Gun and Red Dawn songs made the list
how some people can watch these movies over and over and not laugh themselves to tears, but actually get a nationalistic, jingoistic hard-on blows my mind. but some people are a perpetual running joke, never to catch on. they just can never get it, art is too often beyond their understanding. actually, anything less subtle than a mack truck to the face at 80mph is beyond their understanding...
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 09:53 PM
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53. Here are some mixes that are support our side.






I have a bunch more!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:13 PM
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55. You added some more Maestro. Thanks!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:16 PM
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56. Can you tell on iTunes how many have purchased your mixes?
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:05 AM
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65. Unfortunately not that I know of, but
I can see how many have voted for the mixes. All of my mixes can be seen starting with this one. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewIMix?id=149616667&s=143441

Let the jams roll!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:28 PM
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57. Aw. I didn't see my most favorite song of all time listed.
John Ashcroft's "Let the Eagle Soar (like it's never soared before.) I just live for that song!



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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:36 PM
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60. "This Land Is Your Land, This Land Is My Land"
70 years old, right? Surely that constitutes "traditional" values and skepticism of government.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:47 PM
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62. Is that on the list??? It's a pround SOCIALIST ANTHEM!
Edited on Sat May-20-06 11:48 PM by JanMichael
http://www.geocities.com/nashville/3448/thisl1.html

Was a high wall there that tried to stop me
A sign was painted said: Private Property,
But on the back side it didn't say nothing --
God blessed America for me.
Or "That side was made for you and me."

When the sun come shining, then I was strolling
In wheat fields waving and dust clouds rolling;
The voice was chanting as the fog was lifting:
God blessed America for me.

One bright sunny morning in the shadow of the steeple
By the Relief Office I saw my people --
As they stood hungry, I stood there wondering if
God blessed America for me.


This isn't one ounce "CONservative".
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