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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:41 AM
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RW Lauderdale mayor calls working class residents "beer drinking schlocks"
actual quote:

"I'm supposed to subsidize some schlock sitting on the sofa and drinking a beer, who won't work more than 40 hours a week"?

I'm really getting tired of these greedy re pukes. Especially this guy. I'm sure his public-subsidized job works him like a dog.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cafford19may20,0,6829895.story?coll=sfla-news-front

Free market economy. Yeah, right.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:43 AM
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1. If you work 40 hours a week, you are entitled to sit on your sofa and drin
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:54 AM
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19. 4 men hung to death for the 8 hour work day
Edited on Sat May-20-06 12:01 PM by Gman
Four men were hung and one committed suicide while waiting for his death penalty over the 8 hour work day.

If you want a good view of where this nation is headed, read this about the Haymarket Square Affair:

Through much of the 1870's and 1880's Chicago was a leading center of labor activism and radical thought. Early in 1886 labor unions were beginning a movement for an eight-hour day. Union activists called a one day general strike in Chicago. On May 1 many Chicago workers struck for shorter hours. An active group of radicals and anarchists became involved in the campaign. Two days later a shooting and one death occurred during a riot at the McCormick Reaper plant when police tangled with the strikers.

Haymarket Martyrs - Chicago Public Library Special Collections and preservation DivisionOn May 4 events reached a tragic climax at Haymarket Square, an open market near Des Plaines Ave. and Randolph St., where a protest meeting was called to denounce the events of the preceding day at the McCormick Works. Speakers exhorted the crowd from a wagon which was used for a makeshift stage. Mayor Carter Harrison joined the crowd briefly, then left, believing everything was orderly. Toward the end of this meeting, while police were undertaking to disperse the crowd, a bomb was exploded. Policeman Mathias J. Degan died almost instantly and seven other officers died later.

The following day, under the direction of State's Attorney Julius Grinnel, police began a fierce roundup of radicals, agitators and labor leaders, siezing records and closing socialist and labor press offices. Eight men were finally brought to trial for conspiracy.

Despite the fact that the bomb thrower was never identified, and none of these eight could be connected with the crime, Judge Joseph E. Gary imposed the death sentence on seven of them and the eighth was given fifteen years in prison. The court held that the "inflammatory speeches and publications" of these eight incited the actions of the mob. The Illinois and U.S. Supreme Courts upheld the verdict.


http://www.chipublib.org/004chicago/timeline/haymarket.html

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Hmmm........... 1886 and a lot of this sounds like 2006.

And the right wing would argue that they deserved to die because of the officers killed while overlooking the bigger issue of worker rights.

How many of you kids were even aware of this? Says a lot about how us oldtimers have failed to educate you guys of how we got to where we are with our hard fought rights. ...then again, maybe the kids don't listen.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:19 PM
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30. this crone knows her history very well--and that jerk mayor needs a swift
boot out of office. what a tool
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:26 PM
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44. Nice reminder
The current crop of Repukes believes that Clinton formed all labor unions and workers' advocates.

They won't work more than fifteen minutes at a stretch (and they want either a snort of whiskey or some Oxycotin or some blow to even tolerate that fifteen minutes) but they think everyone else is lazy.

Like the white slaveowners who claimed to be "too frail" to go out in August into the rice paddies off the South Carolina coast.

"Why, everyone knows we civilized people are too weak-natured for such strenuous, hell-tempered work, among the mosquitoes in the paddies."

But when the African and native American slaves said "no way" to those malaria-inducing working conditions, they were just lazy according to those same frail, delicate slave holders.

Repukes are clueless about the history of their country and convinced that they have earned the right not to break a sweat. It's amazing to see such delusional humans. Really. It is.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 10:37 PM
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51. Good post by Gman...
My maternal grandfather was a friend of John L. Lewis and as a youngster I learned the value of unions and the Democratic party.

My paternal grandfather used to tell stories about the struggles faced by previous generations - those of his father and grandfather. Iowa may not have been viewed as the front-lines of the organized labor movement, but many don't realize that farmers in those days organized against predatory bankers to prevent the sale of farms that had been foreclosed during hard times. They would show up at farm sales (auctions) with shotguns strapped to the inside of their long coats and disperse themselves among the crowd. If someone participated in the bidding, all it took was a glare accompanied by the furtive opening of the coat and the offender would retract the bid. They shut down many sales this way and forced the bankers to capitulate. Those who bought foreclosed farms in private sales received visits directing them to be long gone in 24 hours or face the consequences. Now, only 4 and 5 generations later, most of the descendants of those farmers have left the land. Many (probably most) who remain tend to be business types - republicans who are the enemies of organized labor.

Unfortunately, being born into a relatively easy life coupled with a lack of education about labor's history can easily lead to a mindset that values order, rules, and authority above all else, while simultaneously overlooking suffering and injustice.

We owe our standard of living and our way of life to ancestors who put themselves on the line and were able to beat the demons back. But now those same demons have risen up again - stronger than ever.

Our worst enemies live within our borders. It's us against them.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:05 AM
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59. Wonderful history lesson, Gman.
I never learned this. And I was in a union for a while.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:44 AM
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2. WTF? If I lived in Ft. Lauderdale, I'd be attending council meetings....
And exercising my right to citizen comments.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:52 AM
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14. Aha! You would think so
However, these people control everything. Don't forget Ft. Lauderdale is not just a RW boating/fishing capital, it is also home to Coral Ridge Presbyterian, headed by the false-prophet D. James Kennedy.

The greed and excess in the eastern areas is sick. There are so many who need here in South Flori-duh but the rich give the poor finger more than anything.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:06 PM
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42. like making lots of leafets of the post and spreading them around-grocery
stores, fire stations. all the 'working class' places!!
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:44 AM
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3. I hope he gets his ass kicked in the next election
by those "schlocks" who have just been told that working 40 hours a week isn't enough.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:54 AM
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18. It's his last term, thank G*d
Can't wait to see which corporate whore the righties have in the wings.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:44 AM
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4. "who won't work more than 40 hours a week"
If he isn't paid overtime, why should he? What a fucling douche bag.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:45 AM
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5. Yeah, well how about you go F* yourself, you rich, elitist slimeball...
"who won't work more than 40 hours a week"

WTF.. ? Yeah, because in 'merica, we are supposed to work our entire lives away. Human value is only relevant in terms of how much profit it can create for the corporate paymasters.


Fuck you, Mayor.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:39 PM
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34. Word, brother.
I liked Florida forty years ago, no room for people of moderate means now though. Just like California, anywhere really neat to live the rich are going to squeeze the poor right out of, we can commute on our own dime to attend to their needs. Don't like it? There are guest workers ready and willing to take those jobs lazy Americans won't do.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:00 PM
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49. already years ago the workers at Aspen could only afford to live
ca 20 to 40 miles away
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:45 AM
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6. 40hrs/week is considered full time
anything over then you should get time and a half.
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:47 AM
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8. Unless you get paid a salary, like me
Then you get the same amount each week, regardless if you work over or under 40 hours.

Can't remember the last time it was less than 40 though....
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:46 AM
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7. Well, Now We Know the Truth
RWers really hate the working class. Get it now? Stop voting for them, working class!

Tammy
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:48 AM
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9. So it's now mandatory for everyone to have two or three jobs? How
does this fit in with their concept of 'spending more time with the family'? Apparently that is a luxury reserved for disgraced members of the bush** administration or other wealthy corrupt republicans who get busted stealing or soliciting prostitutes.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:58 AM
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22. The debate is about teachers and police officers!
These are the "shclocks" who can't find affordable housing in a safe neighborhood. What I'd like to see is a city with vision, not derision.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:07 PM
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28. So, you think that he's limiting his 'anyone who works on one job is a
lazy schlock' to them? I seriously doubt that. They are just the particular group causing him a problem at this time.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:15 PM
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29. Any group that's not about making him and his buddies rich
is who Naugle has a problem with. He is even anti-gay in a VERY gay area.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:49 AM
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10. And we're sick of Bourbon swilling sociopathic elitists
And subsidizing their pampered, lazy, fascist, corrupt asses.
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:50 AM
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11. BTW, WTF is a "schlock?"
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:23 PM
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32. Shoddy or fake goods. Or...
A peevish person. Or...a whining shrew.

The idiot does not know Yiddish.
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virgdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:55 PM
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41. You are right, he does not know Yiddish....
probably meant shlub. For a guy that lives in an area that has a large Jewish population, you'd think he would use the correct word. What a tool.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:51 AM
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12. nice to hear the truth
of what they really think of us. The working class stiff is a real gomer.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:52 AM
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13. and He's a Spoiled Douchebag
that shouldn't be allowed to govern. He's a PUBLIC SERVANT not a goddamn general telling people they are "beer drinking schlocks". Who the fuck does this guy think pays his salary?
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:11 AM
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60. That's part of the problem, stepnw1f.
They forget they're Public Servants and that we pay their salary and perks.

The last time I wrote my representative, his reply to me was basically all about him, what he wants, what he believes. This is no longer a representative government.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:53 AM
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15. This is outrageous
You should work two or three jobs just to have a decent place to live? Not that long ago one man working full time at a regular blue-collar job (a butcher for instance) could support a family, buy a home, a car, and one for his wife, plus put his kids through college if he planned ahead. Now, 1 person working 40 hours is not enough to survive. You have to have two incomes... perhaps three according to this, and it's the working man's fault for being lazy, WTF? I wonder how many actual working hours Mayor Jim Naugle puts in a week, if you leave out schmoozing, golfing, and entertaining.

One person is working two or three jobs to get ahead and one person isn't. Should we tax the person that's working hard to get ahead, to pay for the one who isn't?

Sometimes I think it's class warfare, only it's the elitists against regular folk, not the other way around.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:44 PM
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35. "Sometimes I think it's class warfare"
You can be sure that's exactly what it is, and that we are getting our butts handed to us!
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 05:30 AM
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58. Class warfare always has been about elites against workers -
of course workers resist, and the RW elites spin it into being workers against elites. After all, they own the spin machine.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:53 AM
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16. I can't wait until he needs a plumber
he, he, he.

"Gee, I'm sorry, but I already worked 40 hours this week. Your pipes will just have to wait until Monday. Meanwhile, why don't you just sit down on your sofa and have a beer?" :rofl:

Hummmmph. Asshat.

Grandpa would have given that cretin a piece of his mind and possibly a whack with a wrench. (Papa was a IAM-AW member for 30+ years.)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:54 AM
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17. this from probably a martini tipping cosmopolitian!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:55 AM
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20. Hey dumbass! Although the elites are your true base,
you have to use the right language to convince the "schlocks" that you are their best buddy. That's how Dubya got so many of them to vote for him. This guy needs to go back to Roveaganda school for a refresher course.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:49 PM
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37. That's what I was going to say - I know plenty of RW beer
Edited on Sat May-20-06 12:51 PM by treestar
drinking working class people. The working class gets paid overtime rates for work above 8 hours, so they value that, so his 8 hour remark may actually not offend them but get them to feel superior. And that's what they are all about. It's a psychological need to feel superior to somebody, so the creation of any group that can make them feel that way resonates with them.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:56 AM
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21. "I deny that there is a problem. You can buy condos all day for $160,000.'
Thanks for posting this article, Opus. Repugs like this mayor need to be exposed for what they are.
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:01 PM
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24. You missed an important point:
"serving his final term." He doesn't feel the need to hide his true colors anymore.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:01 PM
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25. You should see the the housing values at $160,000!
Completely inhabited by "schlocks"! Old and nasty, in tough neighborhoods, but hey, I got mine. Right?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 11:58 AM
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23. Whoa, Mr. Mayor.
That's a postal worker you're talking to. There are some places- maybe even right in your area, Mr. Mayor- where they get that and no more.

What the fuck are you talking about, Mr. Mayor?
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:02 PM
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26. I come from a long line of beer drinking schlocks.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:07 PM
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27. Careful now, Mr. Mayor. You are dangerously close to dumping
on the very sheeple who put you in office. If they start paying attention, and becoming outraged, they may very well sweep you and your Republican cronies all the way up the line completely out of office. That would merit all of us sitting back for a cold brewsky!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:19 PM
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31. His Yiddish sucks, too.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:25 PM
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33. Oh my my, that cur should be excused from office.........
READ WHAT THESE FUCKS ARE SAYING IN THIS NEWS ARTICLE??????

"communistic"

"I'm supposed to subsidize some schlock sitting on the sofa and drinking a beer, who won't work more than 40 hours a week?"

"Gas is unaffordable. Now, do gas station owners need to go out and supply affordable gas?'' said Doug Eagon, president of Stiles Corp.

Read the fucking writing on the wall here people, it's later than you think!!!!

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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:45 PM
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36. mayorjames@aol.com
mayorjames@aol.com pass it on!

This guy is worthless tool, a true DINO. He did all he could to shut down what little nightlife Ft. Lauderhell had back in 2000. He's a major leage shitbag.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:14 PM
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39. He's not a DINO!
He's a conservative Christian repuke.

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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:12 PM
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38. I would use that line in my voter drives!
All beer drinking schlocks join up here! and the neocons say that liberals are elistists!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:21 PM
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40. Yeah, after ya get home from work, put that beer down and go vote
AGAINST the dipstick!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:50 PM
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43. "Christian" values, my @$$ (nt)
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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:29 PM
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45. Yeah..those lazy asses who demand OT for wrking 80+ hours..
How dare they!
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:35 PM
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46. My favorite comment:
"One person is working two or three jobs to get ahead and one person isn't. Should we tax the person that's working hard to get ahead, to pay for the one who isn't?'' he said."


Well, if working 40 hours a week isn't working hard, I wonder what to call this jerk's 0 hours a week. Yeah, sure. Politicians work. Since when?

Firstly, no one works two or three jobs to get ahead. If you can't work 40 hours a week and make ends meet, you already ARE working hard. One works two or three jobs to make ends meet. And no, we should not tax the person who is working hard to get ahead, we should be taxing the living crap out of the investor class, who do nothing but rearrange funds without working a lick, starting with this overprivileged jackass.

:mad: :puke: :banghead: :rant:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:37 PM
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47. Let me Guess, Mayor "Pull 'Emselfs Up By The Bootstraps"
Edited on Sat May-20-06 03:50 PM by buddyhollysghost
will be the first to blame parents for their children's problems.

"You should spend more time with your kids," the Fat Cat says out of one side of his mouth.

Out of the other, he says, "Work more hours than your family can stand if you want a halfway decent life around my town."


Which is it, Mayor Nudnick... I mean, Naugle? Are Repukes all about the quality of American families - the most important social unit in America according to your pals in the White House and at Bob Jones University - or do you not give one red rat's ass about families?

Are you saying that Jeebus Gawd told you to tell all the mommies and daddies to work their asses off at two or three jobs apiece? Are you saying that Jeebus Gawd told you to tell all the little kids that their parents are worthless cuz they can't afford a $160,000 condo?


Did you ever drink a beer or work a forty hour week in your whole big life, Mayor Nudnick?

I didn't think so.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:52 PM
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48. Be careful
These CONservatives are easily offended and may end up with their hands covering their ears in a "hear no evil" pose.

This jagoff's mission was to make Ft. Lauderdale "Posh" back in the late 90's. Well, it's certainly more expensive, but posh? Hardly.
Money doesn't buy taste.

Ft. Lauderdale - Where the Boys are!
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 05:06 PM
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50. Republinazi party hates working people.
Goddamn elitist limousine conservatives. :grr:


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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:40 AM
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52. What an asshole.
What the hell is wrong with expecting a roof over one's head after working a 40-hr. week?

THe only way one can construe his comments as reasonable is if you take into account that this is Ft. Lauderdale. Expecting a nice home in a tony beach resort town on a working-class 40-hr job may be a bit unrealistic. But then again, the people who make all those resorts in Ft. Lauderdale run have to live SOMEWHERE, and it's not fair to expect them to commute an hour or more just to get to work.


But it does bother me that conservatives think that people should have to put in 20 hrs. of overtime just to make a subsistence income.


There was once a time when the 40 hr. work week was considered a hallmark of progress in the US. It's filth like this that pit us against third world workers and do everything they can to destroy the decent standard of living most Americans once enjoyed.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:57 AM
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53. Most hourly people aren't allowed to work overtime
They send the hourly people home and the work either doesn't get done, or the salaried people have to complete it. Most would probably be willing to stay, but the greedy budget won't allow it.
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CPMaz Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:26 AM
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55. Unless they work at Wal Mart
in which case they either don't get to 40 hours worked in the first place or any overtime is both forced and unpaid.
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:08 AM
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54. Attention beer drinking schlocks:
Please remember this when the mayor comes up for re-election. Send him on a permanent vacation.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:41 AM
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56. It's not free when someone dictates it, using the term "market direction".
Pied piper philosophy. It'll do nobody any good eventually.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 05:23 AM
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57. I wouldn't have to drink beer if the republican controlled congress
would get off their asses and legalize pot!
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:27 AM
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61. Oh, Christ...I used to live there
and the area was solidly blue. WTF happened?
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:09 AM
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63. It's blue west of US1
East of US 1 is a mix of white conservatives, snowbirds and gays. And if you read my comments above you'd see that the mayor is anti-gay, which is strange considering the gays have contributed more to improving this former hillbilly city than anyone.

The moneyed crowd tends to wield power through local politics and religion, just like everywhere. Quite a strange mix of cultures and a dilemma for those running for office.

I am going to work for State Senator Ron Klein's campaign against incumbent rightie Clay Shaw.

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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:09 AM
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62. What an Asshole !!!!
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