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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:02 PM
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Can you tell a person's political position by what they drive?
This is not a scientific question, so we're off into opinion land. It's also needless to say that all people who drive a particular vehicle do not fall into the same categories.

Having said this, let our biases begin:


Hummers: My guess would be these are driven mostly by Republicans.

Mini Coopers: Driven mostly by Dems.

Land Rovers: Anglophiles who tend to be libertarians.

Corvettes: People who have better things to do than vote.

Rickshaws: Naderites.


Okay, so much for my biases. Let's hear yours.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:04 PM
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1. I always assume Hummers are drive by shrub-lovers.
I know the dangers in assuming... but I just get a vibe, you know?
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:22 PM
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9. Depends
On whether its an H1 or one of those poseurs in an H2 or H3.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:16 PM
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60. I Think You Have to Own a Business to Get the Hummer Tax Break
The fiction is that all of these Hummers are "heavy trucks" used in their business.
100% tax write-off, or at least there used to be. They cut it back a little bit last year.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:49 PM
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15. Yeah, I drive a Vibe.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:59 PM
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20. Really?
Why did you buy a Hummer? I'm curious.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:09 PM
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25. A Vibe is a Pontiac, not a Hummer
http://www.pontiac.com/vibe/index.jsp?seo=goo_vibe


Methinks the poster was playing on the word you chose. :)
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:48 PM
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38. Ooopssss.
:blush:
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:09 PM
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26. Oh my... maybe I need more coffee, I thought they meant a Pontiac Vibe....
but... :shrug:
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:30 PM
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49. My girlfriend drives a Vibe on occasion...
and if I've been a good boy she'll let me drive...

:evilgrin:
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:34 PM
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111. I drive a Vibe also

Pontiac Vibe that is. I think most Vibe owners are Dem, as the Vibe was marketed to hip, younger people who tend to be Dem. ( Same goes for the Toyota Matrix which is essentially the same thing)

My repuke uncle drives a Lincoln Navigator. Interestingly enough one of the people I worked with at the student newspaper in college, HATED the H2s, because of thier shitty gas mileage and he claimed that they used the 'frame' of the Chevy Silverado for the H2s.

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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:07 PM
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2. Classic VW's
(and probably the new ones too)- Democrats. Cadillacs and mini-limosine-type vehicles - republicans.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:57 PM
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56. Hey! My mom and dad are Dems
and they both drive Caddies.. They said it's their toys (sigh)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:04 PM
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73. Don't say that to PassingFair. She got a beauty of a Caddy from
a relative. :hi:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:08 PM
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3. Research shows, NY Times article from last year...
Among their findings: buyers of American cars tend to be Republican - except, for some reason, those who buy Pontiacs, who tend to be Democrats. Foreign-brand compact cars are usually bought by Democrats - but not Mini Coopers, which are bought by almost equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans. And Volvos may not actually represent quite what you think....

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/01/automobiles/01red.html?ei=5090&en=6eb3a66907e78b2f&ex=1270011600&partner=rssuserland&pagewanted=print&position=

PS. I always assume other Acura drivers are not repubes, but maybe I am projecting?

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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:37 PM
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13. I Drive An Acura (Sigh)
and it does feel so very Republican.
At least I have some Democratic stickers on it, a Rod Smith for Governor (Florida) and two ribbons: "Just Pretend It's All OK" and "God Bless Our Troops; God Forgive George Bush"

My husband is against any kind of bumper sticker, so I have to get the magnetic ones which are hard to find.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:53 PM
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67. I think more import drivers are not repubes
Edited on Sat May-20-06 03:57 PM by 48percenter
jmho.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:52 PM
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107. You can make them magnetic
You can buy that peel and stick magnet material at office supply stores.
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:12 PM
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4. How about
Blazers, Durangos & Explorers: driven by Democrats with so much faith in the future that they assume they'll need four wheel drive to make it into the hills when Junior goes completely apeshit & declares Martial Law.
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:16 PM
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7. BTW
I had a Dukakis sticker on my BMW
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:40 PM
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36. LOL! Good point!
:rofl:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:01 PM
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71. and Escape Hybrids So We Don't Run Out of Gas Before We Get There


Blazers, Durangos & Explorers: driven by Democrats with so much faith in the future that they assume they'll need four wheel drive to make it into the hills when Junior goes completely apeshit & declares Martial Law.



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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 05:59 PM
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96. *snarf*
Welcome to DU--great post!
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:14 PM
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5. Priuses (Prii?) are mostly driven by Dems and other liberal types.
In my area, I can definitely see a tendency for Repubs to drive larger domestic vehicles. Most of the Dems I know are driving smaller imports.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:15 PM
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6. Nope.
There are many liberals who just haven't thought it through, and there are many conservatives driving fuel-efficient vehicles because they're concerned about the cost of gas than the environment. The reasons folks drive what they drive runs the gamut.

On the other hand, some of us are perfectly transparent. I don't own a car. I walk wherever possible, and take public transportation when walking isn't feasible.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:20 PM
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8. Of Course Not. One Should Never Judge Anyone Based On Such Petty Details.
People are far more complex and their beings are far more complicated than to ever be accurately judged by something as petty and shallow as what car they drive, purse they carry, clothes they wear, hairstyle they have etc... The notion is silly.
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:24 PM
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11. Exactly
My job for many years was driving in while most folks were driving out - an SUV was an absolute necessity.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:05 PM
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21. Yep.
Gas-guzzling SUVs being driven by the petty and shallow. So silly.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:07 PM
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24. So Are You Saying You Judge People By Such Petty Standards?
I'm sorry to hear that.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:51 PM
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39. No, just you. n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:24 PM
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46. Well You Shouldn't Judge Anyone For Such Petty Misguided Reasons.
Me or anyone else.

I'm sure in time as you grow older you will learn that to be true. :)
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:02 PM
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44. I don't think this is judgment. This is correlation. nt
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:25 PM
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47. heh heh, be realistic. nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:07 PM
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77. !
:applause:
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:23 PM
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10. In some cases, yes...
Porches - selfish, self-congratulatory assholes - Republicans
BMW and Mercedes: for those who feel the need to prove that they are superior to everyone else (could go either way, politically, but mostly Repuke)
Hummers - no doubt, dumbass repukes with an attitude

But in otherwise, I think it's hard to pigeonhole people. I know a lot of people in the LBC community (little british cars - MGs Austin Healeys, Triumphs) and the politics run from one extreme to the other. Same with motorcycles (although I tend to think of buyers of shiny new Harley Davidsons as people given to right wing politics).
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:52 PM
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19. People who drive automatic Porches are assholes
my husband has a porshe and he's no republican or asshole.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #10
28. I work in Democratic
activism. I'm the only one who doesn't drive a BMW.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:52 PM
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40. Only a person who never drove a German car can assume that.
Edited on Sat May-20-06 01:56 PM by Touchdown
They drive differently. They are more responsive, the steering actually communicates with you. They instill confidence in driving. The fact that they're expensive and nice, isn't always the reasons why people choose them. If I could get the basic, less frills BMWs or Mercs in this country like they do in Germany, then I would be happier. Unfortunately they only import the loaded, expensive luxury versions.

I drive a BMW, and cannot see myself being as confident in driving as I am in this one. It's not about being better. It's about driving safer.
The only way to understand what I'm talking about is to drive one, or a Merc, or a Porsche.

BTW: Those who cannot spell Porsche and think it's a veranda, a patio, or a lanai are lower on the food chain and not worthy of talking about them.:evilgrin:O8)

All of them are made by well paid union members, who are strong in their native country. We got little to lose by emulating them. I would rather support union wages in Germany, than near slave wages by buying a Hyundai or Kia from Korea.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:34 PM
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61. My bro' let me drive his Mini for a week- and you're right...
that thing was built to take corners!

yeah, one of the new BMW-made Mini's... it's awesome!

but I still love my Civic!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #40
97. Yep--my hubby is a brand new American citizen and proud Democrat
and he is planning on visiting the factory next year to pick out his Porsche.

Fine by me.

I still drive a dumb, but reliable as hell--Camry... :shrug:
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diamondsndust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:31 PM
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50. hmmmm
I have a chair on my front porch and my back porch... but they don't drive anywhere... I get excellent gas mileage from my porches though...

on the other hand, I drive an F-150 extended cab truck that gets 9 MPG on a good day... needless to say, I don't drive much right now unless absolutely necessary. BTW, I'm a staunch Democrat, I wouldn't vote for a repug to save my life or the life of my kids..
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:00 PM
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70. Hey dude, watch out there, we've had two Porsches
My hubby is German, he is VERY liberal -- he ain't no REPUBE, and neither am I.

We give lots of money to charities: Habitat for Humanity, Unitarian Relief Fund, SPCA. I don't feel self-centered, we just like the quality and handling of the vehicles, which is why we buy them.

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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:12 PM
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80. Difference...he's German.
My experience is that American owners have a much different attitude than European enthusiasts.

You may think I'm over generalizing, and maybe I am. But it has been my experience that the American guys who buy these things are all about status and ego. The impression is that they care less about the car and more about the attention they receive by driving it. And there IS a difference between Americans and Europeans in this regard. I'd much rather hang with a European Porsche owner than some sunglasses and brown leather coat American fop out to impress the chicks.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:03 PM
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72. Wow...defensive PORSCHE owners!!!!
Geez, and I thought I got defensive when people talked shit about Lucas electrics!!!! WHOO HOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As regards PORSCHE owners (excuse my typos!!!), the exceptions seem to prove the rule. As a person interested in European sports cars, my interactions with Porsche owners have been pretty negative overall. In general, they have been egotistical, pompous jerks, at least as compared to the Midget and Sprite crowd. Now, one could say that you see the same sort of elitist trend when you start talking about big Healeys and definately the Lotus crowd. And maybe it is because the Midgets and Sprites were at their souls the sports cars of the working people, but there are definately differences in the type of person that dominates each 'community'.

As to the person who insinuated that I've never drove a German car, you are dead wrong. I never questioned the quality of the cars. I questioned the quality of the individuals who own them.

Putting on flak jacket...
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:44 PM
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104. It was my Kia comment and their sweatshop labor that set you off.
Wasn't it?;)
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
76. I just KNEW you weren't from Los Angeles
without even looking.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:24 PM
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12. Telling factoid: "Practicality was not the Republican customer's
highest priority."
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adarling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:42 PM
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14. Volvos and mercedes-dems
Lexus-Repukes
honda and toyota-mostly dems but some repukes
BMW-Repukes
Saturn and some GMC-Dems
Fords-repukes
chrysler- repukes
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:11 PM
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29. Chryslers....repukes???
I don't think so. I've driven a Chrysler for 11 years. I'm on my second one and my Sebring Convertible gets pretty good gas mileage and I'm definitely not a republican.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:24 PM
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32.  I have to beg to differ. I drive a Lexus.
I am hardly a re:puke:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:59 PM
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43. Don't go to Dem functions much, do you?
Edited on Sat May-20-06 02:01 PM by Touchdown
There's a parking space between those 25 BMWs there.
The Germans didn't support the Invasion of Iraq. They're being boycotted by the repukes.
Let me take a WILD guess and assume you have a Saturn.;)
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adarling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:41 PM
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62. no but my dad does
i was just having fun with the list, not like i take it seriously and of course there are exceptions :)
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:26 PM
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48. Agree, Volvos were very much Dem cars when I was growing up. nt
Edited on Sat May-20-06 02:27 PM by antfarm
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:55 PM
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68. Might Be A Little Different OUt Here
Volvos and mercedes-dem

Yes on Volvo, Mercedes is a bit more iffy.

Lexus-Repukes

So much money for something that doesn't even look as good as a regular Toyota.
Gotta be Repukes.

honda and toyota-mostly dems but some repukes

Probably so. Their marketing is not the sort that would appeal to Repukes.

Toyota and Honda account for most of the hybrids, whose oweners have long tilted blue,
though high gas prices and carpool lane access are increasing their appeal across the board.

BMW-Repukes

Mostly Repubs in the I series (it figures). Some Dems with the M and Z series.
A more reliable indicator is how they drive. The ones who drive as if they own the road are Repukes, of course.

Saturn

Does ANYONE drive a Saturn?

and some GMC-Dems

I can't imagine why.

Also, don't forget that GM makes the Hummer.

They were also reported to be at Cheney's Energy Task Force Meeting where they were planning the takeover of Iraq's oil fields.
They based their whole business plan on Bush**'s ability to steal Iraq's oil to fuel their behemoths.

Seems to me that GM is all about trucks and Repubs.


Fords-repukes

Not this Ford. (note the Hybrid symbol on the right).

Only hybrid you can buy that is made in the USA by union labor.
Ford is also being boycotted by the AFA for being pro-gay.

Seems like Ford is more deserving of our bizness than GM.

chrysler- repukes

I see a lot of Dems in P.T.Cruisers.


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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:06 PM
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75. Pacifica driving Dem here.
As in Chrysler...and before that, a Chrysler minivan... My husband? Always a Dodge Truck. why? We get a discount. Chryslers are not Repuke territory. :hi:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:51 PM
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16. sometimes but people can surprise you
i saw a beetle with a i heart bush sticker on it, my husband drives a Porsche and he's no republican.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:52 PM
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17. Didn't your momma teach you not to stereotype?
I think the lesson would've been worthwhile in this case..
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 12:52 PM
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18. Might depend on their income bracket
If they have the money to throw away on fashion statements, maybe. The only things I've ever looked at is what's practical though. For work I needed a truck, something else wasn't even an option. For my wife a car big enough to take the kids places and with A/C since we live in the south. The main things to come into account past that were crash tests and consumer reports type of info on what's in our price range.

If some can look at it as a fashion statement, good for them. Means nothing for a lot of us though.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:05 PM
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22. Seriously
I guess I'll just never understand why some people get so wrapped up in the image that a car sends. But then, I also drive a bland midsize sedan that says absolutely nothing about me other than the fact that I am frugal. :shrug:
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:06 PM
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23. Many folks drive what they can afford to buy and own.
Older versus newer may be a better denominator, but even that is pure speculation.

I teach (ergo, I am poor) -- I've driven my parents' cast-offs for years, because they feel sorry for me :) . The last newish car I bought was in 1985.

They like Chevy Blazers and keep them for about 10 years, so I drive 10+ year-old Chevy Blazers. Has nothing to do with my politics, just my wallet! I'd like one of the new hybrids, or even a smaller, newish car -- but I also like keeping a roof over my head and food in my cupboards.

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XboxWarrior Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:10 PM
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27. I stick with the air cooled......
95 FLSTC (heritage softail)

75 911S Targa (I have been called an asshole)

and my fav......."73 Kombi" (Volkswagen Bus)

never voted red
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:38 PM
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103. vw the best car I ever had and I had several of 'em
drive a f150 now though. recently looked at a premo '73 bug 35000 miles one owner they were asking 3500 for and now I wish I would have bought it, bought a new one in '72 for 2200. bigger jugs and a carb swap and it will turn into a screamer, yes
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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:18 PM
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30. Not so much by what they drive as the way they drive…
Edited on Sat May-20-06 01:24 PM by Minnesota_Lib
People who chat on their cell-phones and totally ignore and endanger pedestrians=Republicans.

People who block crosswalks at stop-lights (instead of stopping at the 1st line)=Republicans.

People who tailgate and use their horn constantly as if they have priority on our mutual roadways=Republicans.

People who, in stop-and-go heavy traffic, will enter an intersection on a yellow light and then sit there behind stopped traffic and block the intersection as the light turns green for cross traffic=Republican.

These behaviors betray the Republican mind-set of total selfishness and a disregard for anyone else as well as a total lack of common sense.
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:21 PM
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31. One of my (former) professors drives a Mini Cooper,
complete with requisite "Support Our Troops" yellow ribbon magnet and "Power of Pride" sticker. :puke: She is just about 120% re:puke:.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:27 PM
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33. The only way I would be able to tell a vehicle owner's political position
might be if they had a bumper sticker that made it clear and even then it's probably not safe to assume since it might be a new to them car they haven't taken the stickers off of or they might be using someone elses car.

There may be some preferences one political persuation might prefer but over all I figure it takes all kinds to make up the world. Sometimes a Dem may own a bigger vehicle because that's what they need for their job, a hobby or ease of access/comfort. Sometimes a Republican likes to save money on gas if they commute long distances.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:29 PM
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34. I have a relative who is a fisherman
He has the biggest fucking truck I have ever seen. A Ford Whothehellknowswhat, it has a back damned seat! But he needs it to haul the boat. I notice he takes the wife's economy car when just farting around town, and he bitches about the cost of gas, but if you saw him tooling down the road, you might mistake him for republican in his vehicle (unless you looked closely, and noticed that he looks a bit like a well-groomed hippie).

I don't think Naderites go for rickshaws, though--the oppressed worker, and all that. Maybe roller skates, a bike, or one of those scooter things.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:38 PM
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35. Practicalities and opportunities
My wife died '90 when she was 45 and my children by then were in their late teens so I only really needed a car for myself. At the time I had a Toyota Supra. Since then I've gone :
Toyota Rav4
Jeep Grand Cherokee - arm chair on wheels
Jeep Cherokee
Jeep Wrangler - big mistake as 3 speed auto gearboxess ain't funny.
Alfa GTV Coupe
Audi tt 225 Roadster - opportunity I couldn't resist.
BMW 3 series Coupe
Nissan X-Trail
Honda CRV - current car. Diesel and very economic on fuel.

The only thing the above really conveys were the periods I went dancing every single night as opposed to the periods I prefered to go fishing. The cars were also chosen, or offered to me and accepted, with the decision to have or not have biased by taxation on company owned cars here - aka benifit in kind.

I also had a 1928 Ford Model A Sports Coupe. What's that supposed to say about car ownership ?

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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:43 PM
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37. no.
tons of people up here drive trucks and suv's (myself included) and Maine is a blue state. I drive a Nissan Xterra, I'm a dem. I have only ever seen like 3 hummers up here that actually have Maine plates on them, the rest are from out of state and usually New York.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:53 PM
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41. I once heard that 80% of all Saab owners were Democrats
Don't know if that's true or not.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:55 PM
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55. Broadly speaking
Saab owners are simply Saab owners. Saab have a only small but loyal percentage of the market. That may be because they are regarded as being reasonably safe cars to be in if an accident occurs.
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:57 PM
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109. If you drive a Saab AND own a Macintosh
You're most definitely a Dem.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 01:54 PM
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42. "All surveys found that nothing is more Republican than a big
pickup." From the article.

Even with a Dennis Kucinich sticker on the back window?

Lol, gotta have one but I am not easily confused with a Republican.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:18 PM
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45. Democrats buy cars, Republicans buy trucks.
Edited on Sat May-20-06 02:18 PM by mcscajun
The Political Bumpers spotters, who recorded bumper stickers in favor of or against any of the candidates in the 2004 election, found that the drivers of pickup trucks and large S.U.V.'s were overwhelmingly right-leaning. But the leader of the project, Ryan MacMichael, of Leesburg, Va., said his biggest surprise was the pronounced Democratic skew of bumper stickers on economy cars (71 percent were left-leaning) and station wagons (67 percent).

The most left-leaning models with at least a dozen sightings in Mr. MacMichael's project were the Honda Civic (80-20 left-leaning), Toyota Corolla (78-19) and Toyota Camry (74-26). The list of most right-leaning was led by another Toyota, but a midsize S.U.V., the Toyota 4Runner (86-14), followed by the Ford Expedition (76-24) and Ford F-150 (75-25).

To Mr. Spinella, those bumper stickers merely provided further proof of the most fundamental difference between the two parties.

"Democrats buy cars," he said. "Republicans buy trucks."


My last two cars and my current car seem to fit the so-called Democratic mold:

1989 - 1994: 1988 Mazda 323 Hatchback (i'd have kept it longer, but the transmission developed some problems at 113,000 mi.
1994 - 2006: 1995 Saturn SC1 Coupe - traded it in at 194,000 mi. and change.
2006: 2006 Honda Accord Coupe - I really like my new low-emission, fuel-efficient, yet comfortable car.

On all purchases, I did as the article posited: I looked over at least 5-8 different vehicles before deciding on one. The last two cars carried typically eccentric bumperstickers, while the new one is pristine, not a sticker anywhere on it, yet.

So, is my current ride a stealth vehicle?



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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:33 PM
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51. Would a limousine liberal be caught dead in a VW bug?
Or anything else a Republican wouldn't drive?

Just asking,
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:36 PM
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52. I drive a Hummer...
Also have a Dodge Ram and 4 motorcycles in my garage. I am not a Republican in anyway or form, but I drive what I want.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:00 PM
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57. Then you must be way overcompensating..
'Nuff said.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:04 PM
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #74
81. Troll?
So I should lie about what I drive until an appropriate number of posts? Am I required to sit quietly until my bonifides are secure?

Is there a class with a lot of posts worth more than new members. None of this was stated in the rules when I registered yesterday. Maybe you should enlighten me.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:37 PM
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87. Oh I see.. there's apparantly a vehicle litmus test for Dems now.
Edited on Sat May-20-06 04:37 PM by progressivebydesign
I always pity new DU member who are mistrusted and innuendoed to death until they reach some magic freakin' number of posts. So good to know that we have a big tent, as long as the person drives the same car as we do.. :rolleyes:

I thought that juvenile behavior of attacking newbies was passe. If y'all think that we can win anything back in 2006 or 2008 by alienating and ridiculing anyone that's not excatly like us, then we're doomed to have Bush III, the sequel. Lighten up! Hey.. even if the newbie was a troll, which they rarely are, what do you care?? How does that affect you? Are you "Overcompensating" for something by trying to be the first to out a troll? Sounds like troll envy... really.

Welcome to all new DUers. I have a special place in my heart for the newbies, especially ones that have to prove themselves until the reach a magic number. Those who have been around a hell of a lot longer than most that do the attacking can tell you that the worst troll experience we've ever had, the most painful, was someone who had thousands of posts. So stop picking on new people!!!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #74
100. How very uncool. Attack the message all you want,
But chill on the personal stuff, okay?

I drive a six-cylinder sedan with leather seats--does that mean I'm a troll?

Sheesh.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #52
82. Welcome to DU Scoody. My husband drives a Ram.
Always has. :hi:
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:29 PM
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85. My Ram...
is my company truck.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:45 PM
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91. I guess you could say ours is too...
If you looked at our family as a company. :D
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:19 PM
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83. What is it about the Hummer that Appeals to You?
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:28 PM
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84. I am kind of afraid to say...
since it is apparently not a favorable trait to own one on this board.

I grew up shining shoes and selling gum on the street in Mexico. Worked scrapping cars with axes and wedges at my uncles salvage yard.

I like owning something I never thought I would ever have.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:40 PM
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89. Wow... that's pretty amazing.
I grew up with very little, and know of what you speak. I have a beautiful house now.. something I never dreamed I'd own, growing up. I get it..
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:55 PM
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92. Interesting take...I have a slightly different way..
I also grew up without much to speak of. And to me, buying expensive toys that I don't need rubs me the wrong way. I won't buy a McMansion, I won't buy an expensive car, even though I am pretty much at the top of the middle class income range and could afford a lot more than I have. I am buying a small, 60's era rambler in a very blue collar neighborhood and drive a 93 Kia Rio. That is not to say that I don't have things I don't need (I have a chopped Russian motorcycle and a 62 Austin Healey Sprite for example). But in general, for myself, I feel as though I would be betraying the working people that raised me and those that continue the struggle if I were to fall for the trappings of this mad American consumerism. I also do everything I can NOT to be a 'consumer' btw. Though it's no longer in style, I maintain 'each according to need...'.

Please note, this is not meant to slight you or the previous poster. I'm just sharing my take on things.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 05:46 PM
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93. Those are your beliefs...
and I wholeheartedly respect them. To not stand by your own beliefs (even though they may seem opposed to some of mine) would be hypocritical, as would not standing by any of mine.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #93
94. Agree, totally.. just wanted to contrast how different we
sometimes respond to our upbringing.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:07 PM
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99. Vanilla is so boring if that is all one is allowed, right?
That chopped Russian motorcycle sounds cool. I bought an old Russian motorcycle from an Arab in Saudi when I was there for Desert Storm. That thing was indestructible and the simplicity of it made it so easy to keep running. I gave away to a kid when we came back.

Almost everyone in my unit took a picture of themselves on that bike.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:32 PM
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101. I liked it better when Hummer was a verb.
:D
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:37 PM
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53. This Anarchist drives a '94 Toyota pickup.
Best vehicle I've ever owned. Unbreakable.

After the revolution I'll get it painted and fix the cracked windshield. Maybe.
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:38 PM
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54. Yea SUV's mostly Republican
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:06 PM
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58. Used to be Only Democrats Bought Hybrids, but Not Anymore
$3++ gas and the desire to zip along in the carpool lanes cuts across party lines.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:15 PM
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59. I ride a bike, does that make me a Maoist? eom
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:45 PM
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63. No, only by the turns they make.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:49 PM
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64. Saturns
More American made and assembled parts than any other car on the market. Driven by Democrats who care about union workers.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 07:08 PM
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110. my husband is a bushbot who has bought 4 saturns
Edited on Sat May-20-06 07:16 PM by yorkiemommie1
and now he is driving a saturn SKY that is turning heads all over this city and has people coming up to check it out all the time. he saw it at the auto show and liked it above all the others of its type so he plunked down his deposit so as to get the first one delivered here. i know other Repubs who have bought several saturns also.

we like the way they treat us at the dealership and that keeps us coming back.

edited to add: i don't think he likes * too much any more, but he won't come right out and admit it!



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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:51 PM
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65. BMW's
The status car for upper-middle class suburban white people. Most likely a Republican asshole. If you're a Democrat with a BMW reading this, don't get offended, just get a new car that doesn't suck.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:35 PM
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102. Suck? BMW? In the same statement?
You have no credibility now, Babe!:rofl:

BTW: I bought mine used...and so did Caesar Chavez.:P
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:49 PM
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106. major suckage
I bet you live in the suburbs and want to compete with neighbors. If not, what were you thinking?
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:45 PM
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112. Wrongo. You owe me a house cleaning (My place is dirty)
Edited on Sun May-21-06 12:45 PM by Touchdown
BZZZZ! House cleaning is what I bet you. Come on over.

I live in a midtown, the bohemian district, next to Greektown, within walking distance to a gay cruising park, tatoo parlor and a homeless shelter. Hookers offer blow jobs for $20 2 blocks away from my building. I'm not allowed to smoke on my balcony, so there are some suburban translpants here in very smoggy, polluted downtown on a one way thoroughfare. It's within 3 miles of my job, and I fill up once a month.

I was thinking how willfully stupid and inbred people who hate BMWs are for no relevant reason, other than jealousy, severe lack of enjoyable sex, a giant gangrenous mole on the side of their neck, or offered a blowjob for $20 and BMW owning John laughed in their face and drove off, and use words that don't exist like "suckage".:sarcasm:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:54 PM
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113. For only $20?
Edited on Sun May-21-06 12:59 PM by Radical Activist
Damn, I need to visit your neighborhood.

Yeah, its a class thing. They're almost nice and expensive enough to be a serious luxury car, but just common and cheap enough for mass consumption by the upper-middle class. They lack character. Sorry, but BMW's aren't nice enough to inspire jealousy or repsect from anyone.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:02 PM
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114. It's not about class or character in sheetmetal. That's shallow.
It's about how it drives. You will never know unless you drive one.

If I could get one that's got less frills in it, like they have in Europe, then I'd go for that, but they don't import those models here.
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:52 PM
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66. I never thought it was political...
I always thought vehicle purchases were about compensation.

I could go into detail, but I'll leave it at that.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:00 PM
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69. funny song called "Car and Driver"
Edited on Sat May-20-06 04:01 PM by welshTerrier2
it was written back in 1989 by Bill Morrissey ...


I've got a Mercedes Benz with M.D. plates: I have no trouble finding dates.
I've got a 1980 Subaru: One more semester, then I'm through.
A slant-six Dodge is no big thrill: But it's a car no atom bomb can kill.
I make a lot of dough in a high-tech job: Yeah sure, you bet, I drive a Turbo Saab.

Chorus:
I'll bet you a ten or even a fiver
You find the car, I'll find the driver.
It really ain't no big deal
To know who's inside that automobile.

Well, I've just airbrushed my Econoline: "A friend of the devil is a friend of mine."
I've got a 1962 Biscayne: It won't start if it looks like rain.
A four-wheel-drive with extra chrome: I keep it on the paved roads close to home.
A Cadillac the size of an Amtrak train: When I drive I take two lanes.

(chorus)

Now my Honda civic is a real go-getter: I look great it in my crew-neck sweater.
And my BMW draws applause: I am not bound by traffic laws.
I got a Ranger truck: I'm for import quotas. I won't park next to no Toyotas.
And my Volvo wagon will seat six: It'll run on diesel or trail mix.

(chorus)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:07 PM
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78. I have no bias with regard to the automobile a person drives.
My mother has a Yukon XL with a rosary hanging from the rear view mirror and a Dale Jr number "8" on it...she votes Dem down the line. Looks can be deceiving. :hi:
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deadcenter Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:08 PM
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79. books....covers.....
let the judging begin.

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:36 PM
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86. Yes...depending on their bumper sticker(s)
Probably the only real way. To see my car, one would surely know my likely political position.
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:37 PM
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88. I drive
a beat up '94 Grand Am. It's all I can afford, but if I had a choice I'd be driving a hybrid. I liked the Honda Insight, but didn't they quit making them?. You know they say you'll save all this money on gas and shit, but they charge you too much to get one in the first place.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:45 PM
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90. I don't know of ANY liberals driving Hummers, and of the many
Prius owners I know personally, ALL are card-carrying, dedicated, Bush-hating liberals.

That said, my DBF (a RW libertarian type) just bought a kit to electrify his bicycle for use going to work. Even RWers have a limit to how much they will waste on gas........
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:03 PM
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98. I do.
It freaked me out. I was invited to visit someone I met in another forum. The guy is totally cool. Pony tail hair. And there was this brand spankin new HUMMER. What's weirder is my vehicle is about twice the fricking size of a Hummer, and I'm definitely a liberal. But then my vehicle is a tool. And I only drive it about 2000 miles per year.

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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 05:59 PM
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95. Lots of cars go both ways, though.
Saw a subaru with a W sticker -- that surprised me a bit.

I only know one Land Rover driver, and he is a total anglophile republican with a libertarian bent, and the corvette driver I know DOES vote, but is secretive about for whom. Maybe he doesn't, actually!

I'd kill for a mini cooper. Okay, not kill. But I'd, mm, lie!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:46 PM
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105. My company
Edited on Sat May-20-06 06:46 PM by DS1
CFO = Ford Expedition, rabid Bushie, but really nice guy
CEO = Honda Accord, liberal as they come
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 06:56 PM
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108. I have a ton of progressive and anti war bumper stickers on my car
So I assume that anyone who honks at me for no apparent reason is a conservative war monger, regardless of what kind of car they drive. I get at least one unexplained honk a week. I always give them the peace sign back.:)

And the two guys who drove by and spit at us last week as we protested the war were also obvious war mongers. Who cares what kinds of cars they drove?
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:10 PM
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115. Can one tell a person's politics by how she stereotypes others?
Apparently not.
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