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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:02 PM
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"Free" market...CONservative style
Socialize the cost of production.
Privatize the profits, for the benefit of the few.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:09 PM
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1. Can you explain socialize the cost of production?
I think I see what you are saying, but I'm trying to wrap my brain around this. A few things aren't quite adding up. Thanks!
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:14 PM
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3. okay
Many products use public funding, such as drug research, in their path to commercial production. Then they turn around and soak us.
Some do not factor in social costs, like dumping fees, into the price. This is why dispoable items are so cheap. We pay for the dumping.

Just two items but think in those terms and you realize we do not have "true cost pricing".
Think in terms of production and disposal.

Hope this helps.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:53 PM
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5. That's a good example
Now I've got it.
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EconomicPatriot Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 04:03 PM
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8. Prices
Add in that there is much less of a price effect on the demand for goods when the government pays for them. The government official involved are not spending their own money, and have unlimited borrowing ability. So they're willing to pay much more for goods and services than a private entity would pay.

And, of course, that higher price is paid by American taxpayers. And the profits from that higher price go into Corporate coffers.
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LouisianaLiberal Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:28 PM
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4. Chomsky's "Profits over People" is the best on this subject

Socialize the risk
Privatize the profit.


In it Chomsky talks about how this is not a repub idea, but a now universal neo-liberal program for wealth building, among other goals. He gives many concrete examples. You'll enjoy it.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 02:09 PM
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2. Export the paychecks
Edited on Sat May-20-06 02:10 PM by Warpy
Import all the bills.

Blame the public.

Makes a whole lot of sense, doesn't it?

At least we know where the crash is going to come from and exactly who is responsible for it.
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EconomicPatriot Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:57 PM
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6. Excellent
That's exactly what the Neocons want to do. They want to "privatize" (i.e, "socialize") every government activity, while keeping profits truly private. In other words, they want to make profits off of taxpayers money. That's not a "free market." It's Corporate Socialism. Which is practically the definition of Bush policy.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-20-06 03:58 PM
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7. I'll add my two cents
Virtually EVERY technological innovation in the 20th and 21st centuries has been funded in some major way by a government.

The free market is far more overrated and limited than freeper magic would have you believe.


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