Overturning Roe v. Wade Would Be Worst Thing Ever For GOP

[sugapablo]

The worst possible thing the GOP could ever do to themselves would be to overturn Roe v. Wade and re-criminalize abortion.

They could start all the wars they wanted to, torture all the people they wanted to, spy all they wanted to, kill all the social programs to help the sick and the poor they wanted to, take the side of corporations over individuals, take the side of the rich over the poor, establish all the Christian prayer schools could possibly recite, put a big cross on the Capitol lawn, have "Merry Christmas" be the new national motto, change the national anthem to "Amazing Grace", protect every business in the country from lawsuits from injured Americans, appoint all the cronies they'd like, give huge tax breaks to the rich on the backs of the rest, deny homosexuals every right they can think of, allow every single good paying job to leave the country to fatten corporate pockets, tell minorities to go to hell, completely destroy the environment...

They could do all those things and more and not hurt themseleves politically nearly as badly as if they overturned Roe v. Wade.

For so long as they are able to keep the abortion issue at the forefront of the American political discussion, nobody will ever bother paying attention to the fact that they're trying to do all of the above.

From: http://www.sugapablo.net/story.php?id=267

[lvx35]

1. Agreed. How does the old joke go?

What do you call a liberal whose daughter just started dating? A neoconservative. What do you call a conservative whose daughter just got pregnant by some guy who ran off? A neoliberal.

[MazeRat7]

3. Thats not the joke I was thinking about....

Something about how do you get a repug to support choice ? Tell them their daughter is pregnant and the father is not white.

MZr7

[fudge stripe cookays]

6. Ouch!

But very fitting.

[Zambero]

13. Roe v. Wade is their "Goose"

and verbalizing against the intact goose gets them their golden egg, namely the "hearts and minds" (and more importantly the votes) of religious conservatives. The GOP does not want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg, which is exactly what would happen if Roe v. Wade was overturned. All those single-issue pro-lifers would have to seek out another major issue to dwell on, which for many would be bread-and-butter pocketbook issues championed by the Democratic Party. As much as Republicans want to see Alito confirmed, those pragmatists in the party who are not yet ready to cede victory to the Democrats any time soon must be very nervous at the prospect of RvW being nullified by an emerging conservative majority on the Supreme Court. For them, this scenario would be yet another example of not being overly careful of what one asks for, then getting it, and ultimately regretting it.

[lvx35]

14. Your right.

Which is why the real thing our guys should be grilling Alito on is privacy and the limitation of presidential powers. I'm glad for the Dems who have done this.

[bee]

2. not to mention...

some of the millions of oblivious merkins might wake the fuck up and pay attention.
We cant have that now can we.
:sarcasm:

edit: doh. you already said that.

[wakeme2008]

4. I have been saying this for a long time --- Pro-Lifers are the

$$$, and Votes and foot soldiers of the Repug party. A lot of them ONLY vote and give $$$ over this ONE issue. Without the Pro-Life churches, and people the repug party will go back to the 30% of Congress.

Can you see a pastor getting up and telling his members they have to vote repug for more tax cuts for the rich... :rofl:

[fudge stripe cookays]

5. Why doesn't someone point out to these idiots....

that if abortion is criminalized again we'll be losing TWICE as many lives-- the fetus AND the mother?

Why are the fundies out to kill so many people? We need to turn this around on them and say that they support murder more than they say we do. Desperate women have no choice but to risk death to feed themselves or their families.

Cons support the death of thousands of women, plain and simple.

[Mr_Spock]

8. Fundies hate life and harmony - they thrive on contention & hatred

Isn't that what it means to be a Fundie - "hate thy fellow man"?

[Mr_Spock]

7. I dare those crybabies to get what they want

Then they will be out of power and whining again as it should be...

[AndyTiedye]

16. I Don't Think So

What they want is a theocracy.

Once you've got a theocracy, you can't get rid of it.

Theocracies usually stay in power until they piss off all their neighbors enough so they get invaded and overrun.

The only other way that has ever worked is to get the kings and bishops to lead the Crusade (there is always a Crusade) personally.
That is how the Dark Ages ended -- eventually all the religious whackos went off on the Crusades and didn't come back.
That allowed the Renaissance to happen.

Unfortunately, there is no way to induce people like George W. Bush and Tom Delay and Donald Rumsfeld and Jerry Falwell to lead the troops into battle.

[jedr]

9. When did logic ever enter into the fundies agenda?

They will do it because they can.

[CTyankee]

10. THIS IS A FANTASY

These people are crazy!!! They do not think rationally so you cannot apply rational thought to their ideas.

As I have said in other posts, there are zealots who have brought havoc and mayhem on the world. Witness: Spain's brutal conquest of the New World, the Catholic Church instigating the Inquisition, the disastrous religious wars during the Reformation, George III disastrous war against the American colonies, our own War in Vietnam. ANd, I might add, our disastrous war in Iraq.

Don't be so sure that these people are as rational as YOU are!!

[carolinalady]

11. I agree-the young ones here get all worked up, but seasoned

political veterans will tell you, they don't want to give it up. They play to it to satisfy the christian extreme right wing. There are probably MORE Republicans that believe in choice than we will ever know. I don't even think our side believes that it will be overturned. They just talk it up to play to our base. I listened to Alito. He was pretty firm on settled precedent on this subject. I do not think he will overturn it. I am not so sure about presidential authority though.

[meow2u3]

12. I heard some pro-life dems comment...

First we get rid of abortion....then we get rid of Republicans!

[AndyTiedye]

15. It Would Be The Beginning of The End For Us, More Likely

The worst possible thing the GOP could ever do to themselves would be to overturn Roe v. Wade and re-criminalize abortion.

Not at all. The Fundies will be delighted, and will start pushing for the overturn of Griswold and Lawrence and maybe even Brown.
They will have asserted their ability to force their religious teachings on an unwilling majority and they will want to keep doing it more and more.

The rest of us will be pissed as hell, but our votes don't count any more, so....

They could start all the wars they wanted to, torture all the people they wanted to, spy all they wanted to, kill all the social programs to help the sick and the poor they wanted to, take the side of corporations over individuals, take the side of the rich over the poor, establish all the Christian prayer schools could possibly recite, put a big cross on the Capitol lawn, have "Merry Christmas" be the new national motto, change the national anthem to "Amazing Grace", protect every business in the country from lawsuits from injured Americans, appoint all the cronies they'd like, give huge tax breaks to the rich on the backs of the rest, deny homosexuals every right they can think of, allow every single good paying job to leave the country to fatten corporate pockets, tell minorities to go to hell, completely destroy the environment...

They are already doing most of these things, and it doesn't seem to have hurt them at all.
The more obviously theocratic items can be expected to occur as soon as they solidify control over the Supreme Court.

For so long as they are able to keep the abortion issue at the forefront of the American political discussion, nobody will ever bother paying attention to the fact that they're trying to do all of the above.

Overturning Roe would place it even more in the forefront, with campaigns in every state to ban abortion.

How does abortion get out of the forefront? After the Repubs have succeeded in getting it banned everywhere, and the Dems decide that there is no hope of ever restoring reproductive freedom?
And this is supposed to HELP us????

[phrenzy]

17. That is exactly right

This talk about they 'don't really want' to overtune Roe is nonsense. There are so many things we never thought these nuts would not have the hubris and gaul to do in the past 6 years, but they have done them all AND gotten re-elected. They WILL turn over Roe, and then, believe me, those that think that will 'take the issue away' from the repugs are nuts. All that will happen is that the thumpers will turn their attention to the states and start a crusade for a constitutional amendment banning abortion throughout the country and make it a capital crime.

Once they do that it will be too late.

The one and only thing I think would put a dent in this administration is massive casualties in Iraq or a draft. In fact, it would probably take both.

[AndyTiedye]

18. Not Even a Draft Would Faze their Base, and their Base is All They Need...

...because they'll just STEAL our votes again.