Should Atheists be allowed to marry?

[Thtwudbeme]

If the reasons for keeping non-heterosexuals from being married are of a "religious" reason (Leviticus, or Paul's Letters to the Romans, etcetera.), should this apply to atheists also?

What about Wiccans or Pagans, Toaists, Buddhists, etc?

Should they not be married?

[Rhiannon12866]

1. Only if they attempt to marry box turtles...

:rofl:

[rurallib]

2. I don't think heterosexuals should be allowed to breed since 10%

or so of the offspring turn out to be homosexual. Gotta nip it in the bud. In the bud, I say!

[Kutjara]

6. Not only that...

...but 100% of murderers, rapists, armed robbers and other violent offenders are the products of heterosexual sex.

By stamping out depraved heterosexual practices, we can create a safer society for us all.

[rurallib]

9. I think we on to something here!

Which party should we take it to to put in their platform?

[Kutjara]

11. I think we'll have to form a new one.

Something like the "Keep in in Your Pants Party", or the "Get That Thing Away from Me Coalition."

[rurallib]

23. We could have a virginity ceremony for our daughters

where they promise to stay a virgin to their fathers!
(I saw that the fundies do this. Seemed like a sick joke)

[lindisfarne]

38. But within a year, most have broken that vow, and even lie about ever

having made such a vow (Harvard study of teens, which happens to have a question about virginity vows and virginity).

I subscribe to born-again virginity. Almost every day.

[ptolle]

45. question

Re: born-again virginity how long does it take ones virgometer to roll over to all zeros? Is it measured in time, distance,or what? Just curious.

[beam me up scottie]

24. ROFL !

:evilgrin:

[lindisfarne]

37. Wouldn't this be the party the fundamentalist xians belong to(Rep)

[Hippo_Tron]

28. Plus we can TOTALLY forget about global warming and social security

These are only issues that are going to effect our children. And if we don't have children, they aren't issues anymore.

[Fleshdancer]

43. rofl

:rofl:

I'm going to use that logic some day in an argument. :thumbsup:

[Rhiannon12866]

40. Thanks, Barney! :D n/t

[ElboRuum]

3. What are the reasons? n/t

[GOPisEvil]

4. Come on now, as long they are heterosexual couples...

...the ultra right wing nutjobs can maintain their illusion typically shown in paintings at the Bob Timberlake Gallery. :eyes:

[Thtwudbeme]

20. Here's a piece to warm our little white, heterosexual cockles:

[Kerrytravelers]

5. Only Christians deserve to be seen as legimiate in the eyes of the law.

And George W. Bush is a great American and President. :crazy:




Dear goddess, now I have to bathe. I feel so dirty!

[patrice]

7. "The Church" itself didn't sanction Marriage until some centuries after

its inception. You must remember that many of the early Christians assumed they'd see the kingdom of god on Earth, so other worldly relationships and pleasures weren't universally pursued, like they are today. That included Marriage. Focusing on a relationship with a member of the opposite sex was considered suspect at minimum.

[Warren Stupidity]

8. The state should not be in the marriage business.

The state should provide standards and regulations for domestic partnerships and should not be sanctioning religious activities of any sort.

[crispini]

17. Rightyho!

Sounds like a plan to me!

[tocqueville]

18. exactly the contrary in my opinion

see post below. Religious marriage can only be a private option without legal value in a secular society. Of course if marriage didn't imply legal regulations between the spouses, it wouldn't matter. But since it does, church should be out of it...

[Warren Stupidity]

41. we just disagree about the term 'marriage'.

I want to define (perhaps redefine) it to mean only the religious ceremony, and I want that religious ceremony to have exactly zero legal meaning. The legal form of marriage ought, in my opinion, to use a different word as the term 'marriage' comes with religious baggage exploted by the hate mongers. Thus I propose that the progressive left ought to embrace domestic partnerships for everyone and push for relegating marriage to the religous sector of society.

[SPKrazy]

26. Amen!

My thesis exactly on the subject!!!!

[degreesofgray]

10. atheists should be allowed

to enter into a loving, Christian marriage; one that produces Christian offspring, just as all Jews, Buddhists, and Wiccans should, too, which is, according to people like Rick Santorum, James Dobson, and Pat Robertson, the purpose of marriage.

Better yet, gay atheist jogging enthusiasts, straight agnostic Willie Nelson groupies, and confused dope-smoking Presbyterians should all be allowed to marry multiple partners, just because.

[tocqueville]

12. priests shouldn't be allowed to marry anybody...

in a church-state separated nation. The religious marriage should only be a private ceremony without legal value. Only a state or town official representative should be allowed to legally marry somebody. That is the case in France and several other countries. Since marriage isa legal contract, Church shouldn't have ANYTHING to do with it except being a separate rite if the couple wishes it for their beliefs...

[Mr_Spock]

13. excellent question

The hypocrisy of the church is wrong in so many ways. It's amazing that people could be so blind to the hate & bigotry that they are promoting...

[beam me up scottie]

14. I think we should just get rid of state sanctioned marriage.

The christers are NEVER going to let go of the issue because they see marriage as a sacrament, not a legally binding contract.

As long as they can whip up fear and use homophobia to persecute and vilify GLBT people, we'll never be able to stop fighting against proposed constitutional amendments and discriminatory laws.

IMO, we should go with civil unions for hetero and homosexuals, and let the American Taliban have their marriages as long as they understand that we don't have to recognize them.

[boobooday]

15. Atheists should be forced to marry

And procreate (but only in the missionary position). I mean, isn't that the heterosexual agenda?

[keepthemhonest]

16. exactly

great point. I have been thinking along the same lines but could not write out my thoughts as eloquently as you.They assume that we all must adhere to their bible and that gay marriage ruins the sanctity of marriage according to their bible.Who says their bible is trump anyway.

[mtnsnake]

19. Only if they ask and receive God's forgiveness first. nt

[Ripley]

21. Excuse me, Mam.

I was not married in a church. Not under God. But by a JUDGE. So WTF does atheism have to do with being "allowed" to be married?

The contract of marriage is CIVIL. Religion is extraneous.

[Thtwudbeme]

22. So were we. I married an atheist. So, why aren't gays allowed to trot

down to the courthouse and plunk down their fifty bucks and get married?

[Rhiannon12866]

44. Excellent point. Marriage is a legal agreement.

The religious aspect is for only those who choose it, as an add-on.

[Proud_Democratt]

25. WTF ????????

Stuff like this infuriates me.

[Vox Acerbus]

27. Good question

I am often stumped by the fact that marriage is often both a legal and a religious institution.

Or, more to the point, it is a religious institution which offers a legal status.

I am an atheist, but my husband and I were married by a female Methodist minister. Why? Because our wedding consultant recommended her, not because either of us cared for a religious officiant. Had the wedding consultant recommended a justice of the peace I would have been fine, so long as the justice dressed decently for the wedding.

I believe marriage needs to be recognized first and foremost as a legal and civic institution, above religion. I'm all for requiring civil marriages before religious ones. In fact, I think that church weddings blend the two a little more than I would like.

But when it comes down to it, the opposition to gay marriage is more about opposing equal status (legally) for a class of people than it is about religion. I believe many find it convenient to use their religion to further their bigotry against homosexuals, but I believe it delves much deeper than just religion. It's about opposing legal equality for anyone but heterosexuals, which is just tragic.

[unblock]

29. should rapists be allowed to marry?

fundies apparently think it's fine for murderers, rapists, child-molesters, and other criminals marry whomever they choose who will have them.

but not homosexuals...

[JanMichael]

30. Or therapists for that matter.

They're only missing a space.

[Wrinkle_In_Time]

33. "Anal bum cover" "The Penis Mightier" ROFL! n/t

[dysfunctional press]

31. i did...so i hope it's yes.

i'm an atheist with a vasectomy- that's TWO strikes.

[ruggerson]

32. Depends. Do they speak ONLY English? n/t

[Cleita]

34. LOL!

:-)

[JackDragna]

35. I'm in favor of eliminating marriage for everyone.

So, no, of cuss not. :)

[NMMNG]

36. Definitely not!

The only people who should be able to marry are God-fearing Christians who are medically proven to be able to produce children, and who have signed affidavits that they will produce a minimum of two children during the course of the marriage. :sarcasm:

[lindisfarne]

39. What about gay atheists? n/t

[killbotfactory]

42. No, because they are not human!

It would be like marrying your dogs!

[bloom]

46. If you are going to go by what Paul said

nobody would marry. And if everyone went by Paul - that would be it - wouldn't it. (I don't think much of Paulism).


The Shakers didn't last for a reason.

[MindPilot]

47. Jesus wasn't married...

or WAS he? Buhwahahahahahahahaha

[mucifer]

48. Colbert said "gay people should not be allowed to have driver's liscences"

:rofl:

[The Animator]

49. Hey, I'm an Atheist and I don't care whether or not I can get married.

As long as I can continue to have hetero sexual sex. A lot of women here in Florida would be mighty dissapointed otherwise. I beleive Wiccans, Pagans, Toaists, and Buddhists, being seperate religions from Christianinty, have their own cerimonies to initiate a marrage.

Personally, I don't see myself getting married, but maybe one day far off into the future, when I'm 80 or 90 I'll find some hot young ex-playboy playmate to settle down with. If I have to get married, I want to do it in a jedi temple.

[BiggJawn]

50. How about menopausal women?

According to the most vocal mis-representers of the Buy-Bull, the main purpose of forming a family is to pop out rugrats like pop-tarts.
So what happens when Mother Nature says "no more kids, sorry"?

Or is that another can of worms?