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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:13 AM
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"Are the kids being taught to hate the GOP ?"
The topic on FOX News this morning. :)

Why?
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:14 AM
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1. No their being taught to hate Fox.
Hating the GOP comes naturally.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:15 AM
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2. "Are the Jews being taught to hate the Nazis?"
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:32 AM
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15. Oh but hate is wrong!
We must reach out and meet fascism and intolerance halfway. In the compromise we will only be half-exterminated.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:35 AM
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17. Below the waist.
... or waste.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:42 AM
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23. Very reasonable
good of the many and what-not. Let's reason ourselves into a holocaust!
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:15 AM
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3. I don't know about that...but I do think all children of working
families should be raised with a healthy hatred of the rich!

Flak jacket on.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:38 AM
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22. Not 'the rich' but those who profit from the labors of others.
Edited on Sun May-21-06 11:39 AM by TahitiNut
It's the "ethics of income" in my opinion. When we tax income from one's own labor at rates of 35% and more, while we tax the income (dividiends, interest, rent, captial gains, et. al.) from someone else's labor at rates of 15% and below, we're truly and totally corrupted - a plantation economy where labor enriches everyone except the laborers without either measure or limits.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:15 AM
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4. This is ridiculous. GOP ought to stand up and admit to their disastrous
Edited on Sun May-21-06 11:16 AM by wake.up.america
policies, instead of coming up with gibberish.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:16 AM
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5. Actually, the GOP makes people hate them (the GOP that it).
So yes, the GOP inflicts hate onto itself.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:16 AM
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6. mine are
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:35 AM
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18. Mine too.
Edited on Sun May-21-06 11:46 AM by Oregonian
This is civil war, IMO. My kids need to know which side we're on.

On edit, before I get flamed, let me say that we don't exactly teach them to "hate" Republicans. We teach them to hate the policies they put forth and tell them how they effect real people and animals and the health of the planet. We teach them the dangers of theocracies, starting wars for corporate gain, accelerating global warming, and so on.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:18 AM
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7. That's an odd topic
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:18 AM
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8. I hope so. After all, the instructors are the GOP themselves.
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joneschick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:19 AM
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9. kids are just so darn observant.
and that inborn sense of justice is really hard to get around. How many times as parents do we hear "that's not fair!"? I have encouraged this in our household........hmmmm. If something is not fair, what would make it right again? And really work on their ideas. That and taking them to rallies for a long time. It's the only way to keep hope alive somedays.
Namaste
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:19 AM
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10. Well, I can't watch FOX, but interested to know why.
Why do they even feel the necessity to do such a report and ask the question? Oh, sorry, just realized they're GOP shills and are probably scrambling for anything remotely positive about their party nowadays. Could they get much dumber? Let us know what they say if you can stand to watch.

I should mention that my 9-and-12-year-old grandchildren don't hate the GOP (try to teach them not to hate anyone/thing even when warranted) but they have NO use for Bush. And they pretty much figured that out on their own. Smart kids!

Tired Old Cynic
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:21 AM
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11. I don't have kids
but if I did it would be hard not to. The thing is, in order to take back our country we need to persuade some GOP voters that they should vote for Democrats. Its hard to talk to people and persuade them if you hate them.
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fight4my3sons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:24 AM
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12. I don't teach hate,
but my 3 year old refers to Bush as "that very bad man." :)
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:26 AM
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13. It's all part of the war on Christmas.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:30 AM
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14. I sure hope so,
My kids are. We have indoctrination sessions and group hate get-togethers at every opportunity.

Actually hate is the wrong term. Despise and distrust are more accurate.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:34 AM
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16. Kids SHOULD be taught to hate the GOP
It's better known as raising your kids to be better citizens.

Any parent who teaches their kids to love the GOP is abusing his or her children.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:14 PM
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38. ..and should be subject to charges.....of abuse
Edited on Sun May-21-06 07:14 PM by Ragazz68
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:36 AM
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You, who are on the road

Must have a code
That you can live by
And so
Become yourself
Because the past
Is just a good-bye
Teach you children well
Your father's hell did slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picks
The one you'll know by
Don't you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you

And give of tender years
Can't know the fears
That your elders grew by
And so please help
Them with your belief
They seek the turf
Before they can die
Teach your parents well
The childrens hell
Will slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picks
The one you'll know by
Don't you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you


-- David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Graham Nash, & Neil Young
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:36 AM
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19. Yes. It's part of our daily 2 Minutes Hate ritual every morning.
We don't have kids yet, but I do hold the 2 Minute Hate every day with my elementary students. I also celebrate Hate Week.










* Kudos to Orwell.




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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:37 AM
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20. Gosh, and the Repukes don't put out books like: "Help! Mom! There's
a Liberal Under my Bed!"

:eyes:
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:00 PM
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32. That was my very first thought
and the fact that the author has been a quest on Faux to promote her idiocy.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:38 AM
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21. The more socially repressive and oppressive the GOPers become,
the greater the backlash will be. Remember the Roaring Twenties were a response to the decadent prudery of the Victorians.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:44 AM
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24. I think the Repub leaders have let their guard down...
Their entire Party is based on deception, to a large degree. At the heart of their Party is the propaganda that if we give everything to the rich, then the poor will be much better off. They have opened up that can of worms for all their voters to see, in technicolor. They see the huge taxbreaks given the rich. They see the huge debt left to their children and grandchildren. Many are now opening their eyes and cannot believe they were played for such fools for such a long time. They were tricked.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:13 PM
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36. Because they were so hyped on the hate and the power they
felt spewing that hate. No sympathy for the hateful. Sorry..... :nopity:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:48 AM
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25. or could also be titled "Monkey see monkey do"
Kids are being taught to hate and that is a very sad fact in America....
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:12 PM
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26. I taught MY kids to distrust the GOP.
And I'm proud to say it worked.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:23 PM
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27. GOP... Bah, Humbug
Let's stop using their term.
Grand Old Party, my Liberal Ass.

Republican Party. End of Story.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:29 PM
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28. I would think that is something we don't have to teach them
All kids have to do is see what the GOP is doing to this country:

1. the war in Iraq
2. NCLB
3. 50 million Americans without health insurance
4. pretending to be god fearing religious people

Kids are not stupid. I have had the pleasure of teaching children for nearly 30 years. When we have mock presidential elections every 4 years at school, the kids ALWAYS vote for the Dem candidate.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:30 PM
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29. Actually, my kids came up with their opinions on their own.
True story. My younger son has always been fairly conservative, pro-military, generally sort of Republican in his views. When he was about ten he was the only one in our household who supported the invasion of Iraq. Brought it up at dinner one night. He said, "Who here supports the war?" Silence. His father, older brother, and I definitely did not support the war (this was in 2003, shortly after the invasion). Ten-year old says, "I do. I support the war. Saddam is a bad guy. We did the right thing."

So, we didn't tell him he was wrong. We expressed our opinions and pointed out facts, and encouraged him to do the same. We didn't change his mind.

Bush changed his mind! About a year later, young son noted, "Bush lied to me. There are no weapons of mass destruction."

My question - if an 11 year old could see this, why can't more adults?
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:48 PM
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30. My 11 year old is being taught to be skepticle, to ask questions, and to
loathe greed and exploitation.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:51 PM
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31. Why should you love people who are stealing your future?
No one needs to be "taught" to hate the GOP. They're doing a damn good job of it themselves; just keep passing legislation that makes it harder to make a living, go to college, get a job, or have a private conversation; keep starting illegal wars that kill thousands of innocent people for no good reason; keep being greedy selfish fucks with no regard for the downtrodden, and within another generation you'll sow the seeds of your doom, GOPers. Oh yeah, and those wedge issues help too: nothing like further alienating kids for being different, who already feel alienated just by being young.

Nobody's being "taught" anything....why are republicans so disingenuous about cause and effect relationships? They do harm to a group of people, then wonder why that group of people are so "hateful" towards them.

Children naturally dislike Scrooge, Cruella DeVille, and other GOP archetypes, because they're mean people who do bad things. If kids can't perceive more than a hair's breadth of difference between Dick Cheney and Darth Vader, then they have themselves to blame. I mean, shit...What's to like about republicans? That they're not actually Nazi's?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:03 PM
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33. Lord Knows Mine Have Been, Sir
And so will my grand-children be.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:04 PM
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34. Hate, no. Question, yes.
They're terrifed that their whole raison d'etre is now dependent on the 29%ers. Sucks for them!
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:12 PM
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35. Being the sons of a steelworker
my children were taught first hand by what Reagan and the GOP did for unions in the early 80's.....MILL CLOSINGS and UNEMPLOYMENT!
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:13 PM
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37. Nope... just their policies.
;)
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:17 PM
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39. Their policies are lining their pockets....
The belief that their children are cleaner and better than ours...my kids hate them...thank you very much.....
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:19 PM
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40. I hope so.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:22 PM
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41. Once again, they accuse the liberals of doing what they are doing
They've been teaching their kids to hate liberals for decades.

We don't have the right to fight back?

:shrug:
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