What Percentage of Immigrants in the US are Mexicans?

[stepnw1f]

What do you think. Please post links and facts to put this issue to rest. There is way too much misinformation surrounding this issue, and I for one "am not going to take it anymore!"

* both ILLEGAL and LEGAL Immigrants

[titoresque]

1. 20% n/t

[stepnw1f]

2. My Goodness....5 votes?! (nt)

[sadiesworld]

3. Legal or illegal?

[stepnw1f]

4. Sorry... BOTH (nt)

[stepnw1f]

5. Four People Actually Believe it's 80%?

Okeedokee...

[ClintonTyree]

6. Within what time frame are you asking about?

We're all immigrants in some sense, except for Native Americans, that is.

[stepnw1f]

7. Current (nt)

[sadiesworld]

9. Actually, most of the people in this country are not immigrants...

we were born here.

Most of us ARE descendants of immigrants, which can be said of the majority of people on the planet.

[titoresque]

8. I heard 20% the other a.m. on AAR

But the bigger thing for all of us to remember IMO is that this entire Immigration issue is a ruse. Just as the Federal Marriage Amendment was during the '04 "elections"

It's more about divide and conquer. Don't play the game!

[stepnw1f]

10. We Need to Find That Figure and Post it Everywhere

I do not believe it is 80% as some here seem to believe.

[Cleita]

12. This is what the Pew Hispanic Center estimates.

Their studies as of 2005 based on Passel 2004 breaks down like this:

There are 35.7 million foreign born. Of this 10.3 million or 29% are unauthorized.

10.3 million unauthorized in March 2004.

5.9 million are from Mexico or 57%
2.5 million are from Latin America or 24%
1.0 million are from Asia or 9%
0.6 million are from Europe and Canada 6%
0.4 million are from Africa and other countries or 4%

http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/46.pdf

There's a lot of figures and graphs on this report and the institute is very clear about the fact that they are only estimates.

[stepnw1f]

17. Thank You Cleita

I posted the same number bellow from another source (Migration Policy Institute).

[cherokeeprogressive]

11. I think the better question would be...

What percentage of illegal immigrants come into the United States across the southern border from Mexico?

[sadiesworld]

13. I think THAT figure is close to 80% with approximately

65% of them being Mexican.

[Cleita]

14. So you feel it's okay if they cross the border from the north

or enter in our ports on the east and west? Why is the southern border the only border of interest when the terrorists seem to be coming in from Canada or on visitor's and student's visas into our ports?

[stepnw1f]

16. No... Because That Would Exclude all other immigrants

Your method would feed into the anti-Mexican sentiment, and would be misleading. My point here is to COMPARE, to give a broader sense of how out of wack this issue has really gotten.

[stepnw1f]

15. Mexican Immigration to the United States

Since so many seem to "believe" the number is an absurd 80%, I thought I'd squash that assumption right here with this:

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Mexico represents the largest source of immigration to the United States. Of the 32.5 million foreign born covered in the March 2002 CPS, 9.8 million or 30 percent were from Mexico; the next largest source, the Philippines, accounted for only one-seventh as many at 1.4 million. The rest of Latin America accounted for 7.3 million or 23 percent. Asian immigrants, at 8.5 million, made up 26 percent of the total foreign-born population. There were 5.4 million foreign born from Europe and Canada, accounting for 17 percent of all immigrants. Africa and the remaining countries, at 1.4 million, made up four percent of all foreign born. (http://www.migrationinformation.org/DataTools/maps.cfm">see maps of foreign born in the United States)

Mexican immigrants account for about one-fifth of the legal immigrants living in the United States. This large percentage is actually a legacy of the legalization programs of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA), under which about two million formerly undocumented Mexicans acquired legal status. In terms of the annual inflow of legal immigrants, about one in seven are Mexican. This share is substantially larger than the legal flow from any other country.

Mexico is also the single largest source of undocumented immigrants. There were an estimated 9.3 million undocumented immigrants in the United States as of March 2002. Note that this estimate encompasses those included in the March 2002 CPS plus an allowance for those missed. Of these, about 5.3 million or 57 percent were from Mexico. The rest of Latin America (mainly Central America) accounts for another two million or just under 25 percent. Asia at about 0.9 million represents 10 percent. Europe and Canada together account for about five percent, as do Africa and the rest of the world (see Figure 1).



http://www.migrationinformation.org/feature/display.cfm?ID=208">Read more

* The Migration Information Source is a project of the Migration Policy Institute.

[Nicole]

18. I voted 80%

but I was wrong. I later realized the graph I was basing that on was from the 1990 census.



I searched at the census bureau website for 2000 & came up with a graph that is closer to 60%





I found that chart on page 19 of the census2000 pdf
www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/p23-206.pdf


So change my vote to 60% please.

[stepnw1f]

19. I Also Posted Figures

Both Cleita and I seem to have the same number, which is 57%.

[Nicole]

20. Right

My figures are actually the same as your's, 57% vs. 60%.

However I said change my vote to 60% because I rounded up for poll purposes.
57% is closer to 60% than 40%, wouldn't you agree?

[stepnw1f]

21. I Agree With You Rounding Up

I am not disputing that at all. I still can't change your vote... :P The whole purpose of this poll was to shed light on the facts rather than hearsay from the MSM. The interesting this, is that so many believe it is 80%. The media is very effective in spreading misleading misinformation. The way the media spins things is not by lying as much as cherry-picking certain facts, while ignoring all others. When this is done, the mSM is framing an issue, rather than reporting on information, and I do believe they KNOW what they are doing. These are pros....

[Disturbed]

23. cherry-picking

This is what the Bush Admin also has done and does.

[Nicole]

25. The media is effective

in spreading misinformation. Of course they know exactly what they are doing.

However I didn't go by their figures, I went by the census figures. Which I did admit were old figures & changed my mind to reflect that.

At least I tried to correct myself when slapped upside the head with the evidence. But you wouldn't let me. :P

I know you can't change my vote, I just wanted to let it be known that I did change my mind. I could have kept silent & let you think one more person ignored the figures. In fact I might just do that next time. :rofl:

[stepnw1f]

26. You Misunderstood Me

I wasn't trying to "slap you upside the head" nor disallowing you from doing anything. And I didn't assume YOU were relying on the MSM for your info... that statement wasn't directed at YOU.

[Nicole]

30. And you me

I didn't mean that you slapped me upside the head. I meant that I did so myself when I found more current info than what I had when I voted. Kinda like this --->

I also didn't think you assumed I was relying on MSM. I was more or less giving others that voted 80% benefit of the doubt, thinking maybe they used the wrong info from the census site like I did at first.

We be cool. :)

[stepnw1f]

36. Cool

sorry

[stepnw1f]

22. After I Posted Figures That Say it's 57%

there are still those voting 80%... very interesting. And what surprises me more, is how few have voted.

[Loge23]

24. I saw 20% somewhere for legal #

I did a search last week and found 20% for Mexicans who have legally came to the U.S. and stayed.
The graph on this thread is the best estimate I have seen yet for undocumented #'s.

[stepnw1f]

27. I Heard AAR Say 20%

But didn't know where they were getting that number from. Do you have a link for it.... it may be that the number I have is too high. I just want the absolute truth so I can be more effecting in debating the dittoheads spreading misinfo(NOT YOU).

If you have it post it please.

[Loge23]

32. Check this out

It was a wiki page that I found. I know wiki is shaky at time, but the facts were based on (reportably) US Census numbers.
Scroll down to the 2000-2004 table.
(This is LEGAL immigrant numbers)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States

[Rosemary2205]

28. Not separating legal and illegal is bogus

ILLEGAL immigration should be stopped. I don't really care where they are from.

[stepnw1f]

29. Not The Point of this Poll

You can do your own...

Your attack on my poll as being "bogus" is irrelevant. Only 57% are Mexicans emmigrating to our country... this isn't about illegal vs legal.

[Rosemary2205]

31. Attack no, comment yes

IMHO it's ALWAYS a mistake to combine legal and illegal. I'm simply making a comment on something I feel is important regarding this overall subject. I have not heard anyone anywhere complain about legal Mexican immigrants - so again, what is the point of combining legal and illegal. It's a valid question.

[Clarkie1]

33. WHY MAKE THIS A POLL? JUST LOOK UP THE FACTS!

It's silly to make this kind of question a poll. Here's the answer:

Three-quarters of the estimated 12 million illegal migrants in the United States come from Mexico and Central America. Mexicans make up 56 percent of the unauthorized U.S. migrant population, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. Another 22 percent come from elsewhere in Latin America, mainly Central America and the Andean countries. These same countries send many of the half-million new illegal immigrants who arrive each year.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/05/21/MNGFQIVNAF1.DTL&type=politics

That's 10% of the population of Mexico, by the way.

[stepnw1f]

35. That Was the Point of the Poll

To discuss the facts rather than just what the MSM would have everybody beleive. I hoped others such as yourself would post facts here, so we can bite misinformation in the ass.

Just look at the poll. Just as many believe that it is either 20% or 80%. People are not getting the facts.

[U4ikLefty]

34. A better question to ask is what percentage reach America via

the Mexican/Canadian borders as oppsosed to flying in and "overtstaying" their visas?

on edit: I mean the pecentage of "illegal" immigrants as opposed to those who immigrated here legally.