burythehatchet
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Sun May-21-06 10:02 PM
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There is no way Rove will ever be indicted for anything |
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I suggest that everyone please give up on that possibility and move on. The rule of law is inoperable right now. And please, please forget the word Fitzmas.
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Sun May-21-06 10:03 PM
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1. And you know this...how, exactly? |
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Sun May-21-06 10:05 PM
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An unquestionable source.........truthout |
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Sun May-21-06 10:07 PM
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To believe that Bush would allow it to happen is fantasy. In the context of all the laws that have been broken, it is simply absurd to believe that Alberto the torturer will allow it to happen.
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Sun May-21-06 10:34 PM
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29. And what do you think Fitz will do, if that is the case? |
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Simply submit?
Resign and explain why?
Disappear?
Are there any other options for him?
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Sun May-21-06 10:40 PM
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32. Fitzgerald is not the issue here. |
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He may make himself the issue, and that would be right and good. But he is actor in a play that is orchestrated by very evil forces. These forces are not going to allow an investigation to derail their grand plans.
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Sun May-21-06 10:43 PM
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34. You did not answer my question. |
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He "may" make himself the issue? Does that mean you believe there is a possibility that he would just submit?
Another question: why did they permit the Libby indictment?
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burythehatchet
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Sun May-21-06 10:47 PM
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35. I don't profess have anything but an opinion. |
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And yes, if the DOJ wants him to submit, he may. They've killed senators for less.
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Sun May-21-06 10:51 PM
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36. Certainly your opinion has merit, based on the ugly reality. |
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However, my questions are intended to make you question your own opinion. And the fact that you have evaded those questions makes me think even less of your opinion.
Did you think through questions like these before you expressed your opinion here?
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Sun May-21-06 10:05 PM
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2. Exactly what I've been saying ever since the first reports. |
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DU needs to get over it and move on and i agree, please 86 the "fitzmas" meme - it is so not fitzmas.
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Sun May-21-06 10:06 PM
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3. Oh Thank God For You! Why Didn't We Just Ask You To Begin With! |
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It coulda saved us alllllll this trouble of wondering and waiting. All we had to do this whole time was ask the all knowing all powerful burythehatchet!
God, I'm so stupid. Why, why, why didn't I just ask you.
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Sun May-21-06 10:08 PM
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7. You must not have been reading my posts. |
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There was no reason to ask me.
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Sun May-21-06 10:11 PM
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10. Given the level of emotion invested in wanting to see |
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these criminals brought to justice, I believe that we sometimes lose sight of certain realities. So you are free to put the sarcasm gear into overdrive, it doesn't hurt my feelings, but I would urge anyone who is able to put aside the emotion and confront the reality.
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Sun May-21-06 10:15 PM
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14. The Reality, Dear Sir, Is That We Have No Idea What The Outcome Will Be. |
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So please, try and confront THAT reality.
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Sun May-21-06 10:17 PM
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15. Relax...emotions only serve to cloud judgment |
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Sun May-21-06 10:19 PM
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Yeah, I should really tone down the rage I expressed in that post. I, I, I, I mean I just totally went OFF there didn't I? Wow, I need to take a breather after that. I usually don't let so loose on a message board. Sorry I was so amazingly rageful. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Sun May-21-06 10:20 PM
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Sun May-21-06 10:26 PM
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25. Relax Buddy. It'll All Be Ok. I Promise. |
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Sun May-21-06 10:28 PM
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26. I pray that it will be. So much has gone wrong though. |
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I never dreamed that these dark ages would happen in America.
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Sun May-21-06 10:07 PM
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If the rule of law is inoperative, then Al Gore does not stand a chance of being elected, nor does any other Democrat. They'll just fix the elections and say they won. Again.
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Sun May-21-06 10:08 PM
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I hope and pray you are wrong .
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Sun May-21-06 10:09 PM
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8. No one will be happier than me if I am wrong |
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Sun May-21-06 10:12 PM
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11. I'm afraid you are not/will not be wrong. |
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It's going to take a while for people to catch up as far as just how far gone it is. That is deliberate. They are WAY ahead of us. BHN
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Sun May-21-06 10:13 PM
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13. As I have said, they play chess while we play checkers. |
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Sun May-21-06 10:17 PM
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They OWN the checkers, chess boards and everything else that wasn't nailed down while we slumbered. WE are so beyond screwed, but hey...maybe a corporate owned democratic will save us? HAHAHAHAHAHA... BHN. (Oh crap, there I go again, being a realist...forgive me.)
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Sun May-21-06 10:36 PM
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Sun May-21-06 10:11 PM
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9. I'm glad you started this thread. |
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That way maybe the Rove apologists can post here and stay away from the Truthout threads.
:)
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Sun May-21-06 10:12 PM
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12. What does Rove apoligist imply, exactly. |
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Do you perceive that I am a Rove apologist?
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Sun May-21-06 10:17 PM
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17. Completely dishonest of you. |
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If your only argument is that anyone who raised questions about the Leopold article is a "Rove apologist," you are being terribly dishonest and manipulative. "You're either for Leopold or for Rove." Sounds kinda, hmmm...ROVIAN, doesn't it?
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Sun May-21-06 10:18 PM
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18. You either support the president or you're a terrorist |
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Sun May-21-06 10:21 PM
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It's the same "with us or against us" bullshit. Most DUers can see through posts that say that kind of stuff. It's the hallmark of a weak argument.
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Sun May-21-06 10:19 PM
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19. I think he will be indicted. I don't think it's already happened... |
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and I think that the Kos diary's theory is absurd.
But I do think that Rove will be indicted.
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Sun May-21-06 10:21 PM
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24. If it happens it will truly be a blessing |
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The only thing better would be Cheney...but...
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Sun May-21-06 10:57 PM
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38. I lean toward it's already happened |
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It makes sense that it was a sealed indictment and now it's plea bargaining time, and they want to get as much info about the "conspiracy" as possible before making the public announcement. In this instance Roves team would be denying any indictment has happened. I am not usually the hopeful type but this is my gut feeling. I am not going to get my hopes up though. Anything can happen at this point.
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Sun May-21-06 10:21 PM
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Seems to me that in simpler times a man named Nixon also tried to wave the rule of law by removing Archibald Cox as Watergate Special Prosecutor. I don't recall if there was (at the time) an effort to keep it mum, but it backfired on him nonetheless. What else would you expect Bush to do? He's up against the wall, with no political capital or legal alternatives left to him. This apparent course of events (having Gonzalez somehow reverse an indictment in process) should come as a shock to none.
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Sun May-21-06 10:30 PM
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27. Past the rule of law lies only insurrection |
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is that what you recommend at this point instead?
I figure it may well come to that, but is now the time?
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Sun May-21-06 10:33 PM
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28. Since I've had threads deleted along those lines |
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Sun May-21-06 10:36 PM
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30. well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. |
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but don't presume to speak for the rest of us.
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Sun May-21-06 10:42 PM
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33. I'm not sure where you got the impression I was speaking for anyone else |
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but myself. I am, however, trying to sway some opinions because I see a lot of energy spent on this issue. Personally, I think the time would be better spent focusing on fair elections and taking the house in November.
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Sun May-21-06 10:57 PM
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37. Is your post flame-bait, or an attempt at irony? |
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slyly making fun of the rw talk point to "move on"?
or should i get some popcorn?
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Sun May-21-06 11:01 PM
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Please keep the Rove/Indictment/Truthout/Leopold ruminations in the Official Thread.
Thanks.
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