Wash Journal-CSPAN: Ann Marie Squeo, WSJ, talking about

[babylonsister]

CIA leak investigation, Fitz, Rove, Truthout, etc. Primarily speculation as no one knows nothin'!

[DemonFighterLives]

1. Just sat down

Thanks for the heads up.
Is she an expert?
My goodness, it is like the mod. is catching some of this the first time.
MSM- here it comes.
:bounce:

[babylonsister]

3. She doesn't know much more than anyone else, though she does

have some insight as a journalist. Mentioned Truthout's 'apology' but called it nebulous.

Edit to add: She's a Justice Department reporter.

Cheney very much involved.

[dogday]

2. Add this report from WAPO

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/21/AR2006052101374.html

[w8liftinglady]

4. you all realize this host is the one who hired Colbert:)

[w8liftinglady]

5. ...I believe...

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

13. that was steve scully

[w8liftinglady]

6. the democrat line callers are making good points.

[SHRED]

7. She is milk toast

Claims Plame's CIA status, at the time, is still under question?

Give me a break.

[lala_rawraw]

14. wow, she has no clue

someone call and ask her a basic question about this ... Viv has already been put aside... good god this woman knows nada

[SHRED]

16. Why would the WSJ hire a "Valley Girl"?

[lala_rawraw]

18. This is funny, somehow and out of nowhere she is an expert

a WSJ columnist who never really added o the reporting of this story... say what? And this is who WSJ to attack the blogs?

[DemonFighterLives]

8. Freeper caller=

a duh, fitz has been on it for 2 1/2 years and all he has is one guy lied to the Grand Jury whatever.
I guess lying to a grand jury means nothing in freepland unless it is Bill Clinton talking about sex, then all bets are off.

[SHRED]

9. yeah I heard that...

...he said, "whatever".

jeezus

[DemonFighterLives]

20. Any crimes committed by dubco

is easily excused as whatever.
Nothing to see here- but how about those immigrants stealing our jobs. :sarcasm:

[babylonsister]

10. Who signed Wilson's gov't travel authorization to go to Niger?

That would put that question to rest. Why hasn't that been addressed?

[maine_raptor]

11. That name would be classified, but

the position (aka how many pay grades above her) might be release-able. I would guess that the CIA would not be happy if they had to cut loose with a name.

There are rules and laws and such against that, you know. :sarcasm:

[babylonsister]

12. I meant Joe Wilson's authorization, and I'd like to know what

agency, not necessarily who. That would solve who asked him to go. Very simple, but I'm hearing crickets. It's much easier for everyone to say Plame, his wife, sent him, but I don't think she had the authority to do so. At the very least it would appear suspect as he's her husband.

[maine_raptor]

15. If I remember correctly.........

it was someone higher up the did the authorization. I don't recall how high up, but I do remember reading it in some of the early reporting when the story broke.

How higher up would reveal a couple of things; the amount of bureaucracy (oversight) needed to set something like this up, and the amount of interest and priority the mission had (the higher up, the more priority).



Edit for typo.

[DemonFighterLives]

17. Maybe, I'm dreaming

but I once thought GFY cheney had something to do with it until Joe was straight and didn't tow the PNAC party line. Then he didn't know who Joe was and set out to out Valerie.

[babylonsister]

19. Didn't his notations on the NYTimes editorial written by Wilson

ask who sent Wilson to Africa? That would kind of negate Cheney being involved.

[DemonFighterLives]

21. Remeber Gfy was working over time at the cia

unlike any other vp ever.
He knows who knows.

I'm going to post my theory of the whole Plamegate thing here.
I've been thinking.
Skunky cheney is going to take the hit while rover and dubby skate off into obscurity. I don't know how it all shakes out, but near dead cheney will take the bitter pill just like Casey did before him. Save b*shco Uber Alles.
:dem:

[maine_raptor]

22. I think babylonsister is talking about

who within the CIA authorized the Wilson trip. The actual "OK, send him" that lead to the NYT op-ed that the Big Dick scribbled on.

[babylonsister]

24. Thanks. Yes, that's what I want to know. Plame's name is not

on that travel authorization, I'm betting.

[DemonFighterLives]

27. Well, I 'm sure it wasn't Valerie as the talking points keep stating

Valerie could have said that Joe knows where to go and who to talk to, but she didn't make the final decision.
Dubby struts around saying he will fire anyone who leaked the info. Then the stupid little freak goes on vacation while knowing who, what happened. When it got too deep he comes up with his ability to declassify on a whim.
All their stories are lies!
GFY cheney knew and dubby knew and rover and libby and powell and condi and the whole WHIG.
:freak:

[maine_raptor]

43. Ah, yes the "Talking Point". Funny thing about that.

Typical right-wing TP in a way. Take a complicated tale and put it in a 7 second sound bite rather than admit that Wilson was on an authorized mission as part of inquiry into a legitimate intelligence question; Did Saddam try to buy Yellowcake?

Here's the real funny thing:

The Wilson's de-brief and report after the mission would have been available to WHIG. That info would contain not only the results of his mission, but the origins too.

They would know that Wilson would not agree with pushing a nuclear case (the post trip report)as a reason to go into the Iraq War, and knowing that he was a "soft Bush supporter" (past Campaign contributions via the FEC), figure on his speaking out at some point.

Now if they knew how he got sent(i.e. his wife suggestion at the start), could they already have had that TP prepared as part of the enviable blow back once they unleashed their planned retaliation on him (the outing of his wife).

Funny how that all works, eh?

[dogday]

23. Wilson was asked by Plame's Superiors

They were asked by Cheney, who did not know they would ask Wilson to go... When Plame's superiors mentioned they needed to send someone to niger via the VP request, she suggested her husband and arranged the meeting....

[babylonsister]

26. Yes, all perfectly legitimate imo. Wilson was a former ambassador

and had the experience. But all the speculation that either Cheney or Plame sent Wilson drives me crazy!

[dogday]

29. That decision was always up to the CIA

And it was the CIA who intially requested the investigation...

[rodeodance]

25. getting an earful from callers--some reveal their ignorance of the consti

tution.

[rodeodance]

28. reading an article: Gonzalas saying reporters can be procecuted for

leaking classified information. I missed where this came from.

[dogday]

30. I wonder does that include

White House staff too.

[rodeodance]

33. te he. of course not!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

31. but that woman had a brother at the pentagon who knew

valerie plame wasn't covert. what more proof do we need?

definitely the backwash calling in.

[babylonsister]

36. Who have they been listening to; Rush, Hannity, O'Lielly?

Certainly no one telling the truth. Remember the article in the NYT (I think) claiming Wilson's neighbors didn't even know what her job was?

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

40. yes, that's exactly what i thought, too.

[Carni]

41. I heard that old hag

Why is it that most of the repuke callers are women who sound like they are about 100 years old?

[rodeodance]

32. I think this is the 3rd caller saying Plame's employment was not a

secret. that it was out that she worked in the CIA

[rodeodance]

34. another caller saying how good Pres. Bush is at protecting the country.

[rodeodance]

35. "God bless GWB" says a caller. I hear Clarance Thomas said the we

should pray for him (was on DU someplace just a bit ago).

[DemonFighterLives]

39. The fundy freepers were out in force

Their talking points are so hard to listen too after hearing them 75,000 times (est).
dubby has done such a good job keeping us safe since 911, except for that particular slip up that was on his watch.
:dem:

[peacetalksforall]

37. Why is C-Span devoting so much time to 'the leak'. Regrettably, it's

all about Plame and in what I've heard so far - only one caller brought up Brewster-Jennings. We are such an uniformed mess of a country.

We all know that the books to be written will expose the real causes of the WH conspiracy to close B-J. Why are we skirting the issue? The PNAC WH is still winning.

Back to my original question - why all this leak talk on C-Span?

[DemonFighterLives]

38. They couldn't suppress it any longer

Time for a limited hangout. Very limited indeed.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. maybe c-span has inside knowledge that indictments are coming