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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:04 PM
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GASP! A CONGRESSMAN took MONEY!!!
:wtf:

It's ALL OVER THE "NEWS".

Have you ever heard of such a thing?

What is the world coming to? I'm SERieS!@!?

:sarcasm:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:07 PM
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1. dat's HUGH!
hey, at least Nancy Pelosi R E P E A T E D L Y said she ordered the ethics investigation.
How many GOPers could make that claim?

Our duty is to root out all theft, ignorance, evil, and Jefferson is a prime example. His party label is totally unimportant. His actions are what count.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:10 PM
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5. Yes at least we are ethical as a whole--not monolithic
either.

I just have to shake my head at the hypocrisy of seeing this man's face blasted by the MSM replete with the ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS for emphasis while you barely heard how much Delay, Abramoff and the rest of those crooks made off with.

It's sickening.
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unda cova brutha Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:07 PM
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2. did they catch another republican taking bribes?
first cunningham, now this new one.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:14 PM
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8. this one's a Democrat
:(
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:08 PM
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3. Hysterical, isn't it? I don't recall this amount of hoopla for
Abramoff, DeLay, and all the other lousy crooks. And what about HOOKERgate and the multi-million $ limo contract? Why isn't that being discussed?
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:11 PM
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6. Exactly. I just hope people can see through it. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:37 PM
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16. My question: if they had 'the goods' on him, why wasn't he arrested
a year ago when the money was found? Actually, that was Al Sharpton's question on Tweety, but a good one. Why didn't they act immediately?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:10 PM
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4. Shades of Abscam & DeLorian
Edited on Mon May-22-06 06:10 PM by SoCalDem
I wish he would resign NOW (if there is tape showing him doing it).. Republican corruption will be put on an equal footing by this, and our people using it will be less effective if he's still in place fighting a losing battle.

This is why we MUST have public financing of campaigns. There would be NO reason on earth for any congressperson/senator to even think about struff like this if they did not have to raise outrageous sums of money every few years..

It's the vaccination for fraud.. Will there still be crooks? sure..but they would have NO possilbe explanation if their campaigns were not their expense.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:13 PM
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7. So very stupid of him is what I keep thinking. They were LOOKING
for a patsy and they found it in him. I'm sure the NSA helped speed things along. Which is the purpose for all the wiretapping--political espionage.

He should go ahead and resign.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:14 PM
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9. Rep. Jefferson took $100,000! He deserves jail time
A crook is a crook no matter what political party.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:16 PM
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10. The point is the unfair media coverage. No argument about
jail time.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:31 PM
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31. What's unfair? The fact they're reporting it? Cunningham made news, too.
So did Abramoff.

Is the media supposed to ignore a criminal in the House?

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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:33 PM
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32. Not THAT they reported it, it's the WAY it's being reported
All day, every station, specific amounts of money.

Not so in the instances where Republicans have been caught with their hands in the till.

A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS pales in comparison to the billions that have been stolen by Republicans. Yet, you don't see those numbers anywhere.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:37 PM
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35. And how long was the segment on Jefferson? Is it only today?
I haven't heard much before this weekend. If they're still raving about it come Wed. then, yeah, you'd have room to complain. The media is after sensation, no matter the letter of party in parentheses.

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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:40 PM
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36. I don't agree. You didn't see Delay in the news all weekend long
or any of the other criminals in the Republican party--and when they were mentioned, it was without full explanations of their crimes or the amounts they stole which far outweigh this man's "take."
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:21 PM
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11. What the news should be doing is putting this in context.
Edited on Mon May-22-06 06:22 PM by calmblueocean
Show a graphic of how many Republicans are under indictment or under scrutiny for ethics violations, and a similar one for how many Democrats.

Of course, they won't do that because they're afraid telling the truth will make them sound like liberals. When the facts have a liberal bias, the news media in this country refuses to report the facts.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:23 PM
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13. You are so right. There is no balance in the "news." nt
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:36 PM
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25. To them it is "balanced" to report both sides are equally corrupt...
Even if the facts show that one side is far more corrupt than the other.

I have no problem with them going after Jefferson if they do in fact have a case against him, corruption needs to be rooted out wherever it occurs. All I ask is for some real truth in reporting that shows the full extent of the corruption in the Republican Party, as well as the smaller but still present corruption of the Democratic Party. I am all for cleaning my own house, but I know damn well that my own house is not nearly as messy as my opponents. You can tell both sides of a story without pretending that both sides are equal.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:55 PM
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28. Bias, Balance, & Bullshit
http://www.buffalobeast.com/92/balance.htm

'In other words, the idea, stated as fact in nearly every newspaper and TV report on the scandal, that Abramoff funneled money to Democrats through these tribes, is simply not true. So why would the press lie about it? Because the truth is not “balanced” enough. In the current media climate, it’s just not acceptable to tell the truth about this issue. Desperate to avoid accusations of partisan bias, mainstream news agencies find it preferable to tell a reassuringly bipartisan lie.

'Of course, the Democratic Party isn’t a morally pure bastion of integrity. It’s pretty much impossible to get elected to congress without engaging in some influence-peddling and favor-trading. But to say that they share equal guilt, or really any guilt, in the Abramoff scandal is to tell a lie—a lie we are being told daily, and not just by the media figures we expect such lies from—the Limbaughs and O’Reillys—but by figures generally considered to be neutral, or even liberal by some—Katie Couric, Wolf Blitzer, the Washington Post, Time Magazine.'
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:35 PM
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34. Exactly the point I was trying to get at
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Jayhawk Lib Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:40 PM
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17. His secret name is Robin Hood.
He took that money to give to the poor constituents in his district.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 04:22 AM
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42. GOPers suspected of taking millions didn't get their house searched -
not all over the news.

Speaks volumes.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:22 PM
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12. I Would Expect It To Be. And That Scumbag Should Resign.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:23 PM
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14. You would expect what to be? n/t
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:48 PM
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20. I Would Expect This Jefferson Story To Be In The News. n/t
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 04:23 AM
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43. While the bigger scumbags remain, being mostly not mentioned in the news.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:36 PM
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15. Power corrupts
whether Democrat or Republican.
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:41 PM
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18. Repub. or Dem...they should all be held to the same
standard. It SHOULD be on the news. Just because they don't report enough crap about another party member doesn't mean we should let this fucker slide. We should expect honesty and nothing less from every party member on both sides.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:46 PM
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19. AND they should both be subjected to the SAME media
scrutiny. Has anyone seen much coverage on that Kentucky Governor? Is Bob Ney's name and face becoming a national scandal?

... thought so....
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:05 PM
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21. That's right AnnaBanana ~ media coverage or

the justice is NOT the same.


How long have we waited to get KennyCON Enron in jail?

Watch Jefferson get all the Press ~ lucky us.

If he should go to jail ~ lock him up as of YESTERDAY.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:24 PM
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30. Or how about NINE BILLION disappearing in Iraq? Not a peep. nt
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:15 PM
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22. ...
news.google.com

keyword: Enron
Metro Toronto Enron whistleblower tells BBC all
BBC News, UK - 1 hour ago
After 56 days in court the two former bosses of collapsed energy giant Enron, Ken Lay and Jeffrey Skilling, are awaiting the jury's verdict. ...
Enron jury ends third day, Lay on stand in loan case Reuters
Jurors Deliberate in Enron Broadband Trial Houston Chronicle
Enron Internet execs criminal case goes to jury Reuters
Reuters - Mail & Guardian Online -

all 442 related »

...

keyword: "William Jefferson"

Thanh Nien Daily Congressman Jefferson Denies Wrongdoing
Voice of America - 26 minutes ago
... A long-running federal probe into the activities of Louisiana Democrat William Jefferson led to an unprecedented search this past weekend of his congressional ...
Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA) Caught in Sting RushLimbaugh.com (subscription)
FBI accuses lawmaker of accepting bribe on tape The Standard
Congressman Jefferson Says He Won't Resign, Denies Wrongdoing Bloomberg
Times of India - Human Events -

all 703 related »

...

Keyword: Ney

Washington Post Approval of Congress lower than in Abscam
Winston-Salem Journal, NC - May 20, 2006
... On Wednesday, leaders of the House ethics committee announced full-blown investigations of Reps. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, and William Jefferson, D-La. ...
Congress Faces Multiple Criminal Probes Leading The Charge
Some lawmakers could face double punishment from ethics probe ... North County Times
Congress sees approval dip amid scandal, investigations Concord Monitor

all 91 related »
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:20 PM
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23. One Democrat versus several republicans.
Yep, bipartisan. :eyes:
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:29 PM
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24. Corruption - Democrat, Corruption - Democrat , Corruption - Democrat...
Corruption - Democrat, Corruption - Democrat , Corruption - Democrat... Corruption - Democrat, Corruption - Democrat , Corruption - Democrat... Corruption - Democrat, Corruption - Democrat , Corruption - Democrat... Corruption - Democrat, Corruption - Democrat , Corruption - Democrat... Corruption - Democrat, Corruption - Democrat , Corruption - Democrat... Corruption - Democrat, Corruption - Democrat , Corruption - Democrat... Corruption - Democrat, Corruption - Democrat , Corruption - Democrat... Corruption - Democrat, Corruption - Democrat , Corruption - Democrat...

THIS IS THE NEW MEDIA MEME... YOU WILL NOT FORGET IT... YOU WILL HEAR IT OFTEN BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER... ALL AMERICA WILL HEAR IT... over and over and over and over and over... ad nauseum. :puke:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:37 PM
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26. Why didn't the FBI search Tom DeLays house?
Curious minds want to know.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 07:41 PM
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27. Sorry, but the guy stinks
and if they had Delay or any Republican on videotape taking a suitcase full of money, that'd be huge news too. The reason this story is big is that it doesn't take any explaining--corruption doesn;t get any simpler than suitcase full of money.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:34 PM
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33. Yep
It's a crowd pleaser.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:07 PM
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29. Politicians take money?!! Right up there with "Sun Shines in Arizona!"
“America is a nation without a distinct criminal class...with the possible exception of Congress." - Mark Twain
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:40 PM
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37. I'm not going to make excuses for corrupt Dems.
Edited on Mon May-22-06 08:42 PM by Marr
That sort of blind "party first" bullshit is one of the worst things about the Republican Party, and I'm not going to do it. If this guy's corrupt, which he certainly appears to be, I hope he's skewered.

Still- I do understand your point about media coverage. If this were a Republican, he'd be getting very different treatment in the media.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:41 PM
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38. You miss the point here. If skewering is good for us, then bring it
on for all is my point.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:42 PM
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39. I edited my post.
I do agree with you on that point.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 04:26 AM
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44. A Repub probably would also get different treatment from the FBI
First time the FBI did a house search of an sitting politician, for 'only' $100,000 while Repubs taking millions go mostly unmentioned.

Obvious and extreme bias by law enforcement and the media.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:45 PM
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40. Now I've heard there was a House Ethics Committee investigation into
this (D) guy, Jefferson... Was there ever even any investigation or statement by the same committee into the Duke Cunningham case, even after admission of felony and millions in bribery? Any censure of the good ol' Duke?
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 03:55 AM
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41. not sure, but they're going after Bob Ney. (nt)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 04:33 AM
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45. How can we dare criticize people like DeLay if we won't hold our own....
to the same standard?

What Jefferson did was not only WRONG, it was STUPID. He was FILMED taking 100K for crissakes. He had the marked bills--and all that was left to do was to find the bills on his person or in his house.

When DeLay engaged in unethical money matters, it was on the news. This is on the news, too. A couple of weeks ago, you couldn't turn the TV on without hearing about Foggo and Cunningham.

The bottom line: When our guys and gals partake in unethical activities, we should condemn them, just as we condemn Republicans.

There's no excuse--to search for excuses only makes us look inconsistent, and, well, stupid.

If they are going to take bribes or illegal campaign donations--throw the bums out. They don't deserve our support.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 04:34 AM
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46. Put him on the Appropriations Committee
If it's good enough for Tom Delay...
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