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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:52 AM
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oh well, i guess there's just no stopping bush and his pals
roberts, then alito, dems rollover and pretend, the hell train rolls on.

just lay back and enjoy the wreck i guess, it's inevitable, and unstoppable.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:01 AM
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1. I do not think that the Dems rolled over on Alito.
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okoboji Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:01 AM
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2. yep
I see no end to the madness. So, Delay won't be big chief anymore, big deal. Evil is still stitting in the white house.

And the day after alito is confirmed, they might as well put Roe vs Wade on the docket and turn it over and get it out of the way so we can all stop worrying about "when" it will occur.

Then, maybe, a few more people will wake-up and say "Oh fuck"....


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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:02 AM
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3. pray for pretzels
lots of pretzels
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:11 AM
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4. Nah, not really.
Bush is a nobody. If Fitz would just get off his assumption and indict Rove, the 24/7 campaign train would sigh to a stop. Yes, the dem leadership, with DLC corruption and appeasement, barring a few stars, is tired and worthless. The sparkle that I'm hoping for, with the collapse of the thug money machine, even if there are no dlc dems caught dirty, is a general fear within the corporate supporters of these high rollers.

I am convinced the lack of outrage from those powerful personae comes from their own fear of transparency.
This whole charade is in the process of imploding, a slow speed train wreck, as someone observed, and it's my lack of patience that's driving my blood pressure up and spirits down.
Try to enjoy. We are the flood and the grand canyon we are working on will become a reality. Critical mass has been achieved, metaphors adequately osterized and we shall win!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:36 AM
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18. Wish it would speed up just a tad. nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:12 AM
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5. I fear for the rest of y'all...
Being on the receiving end of FEMA has not been entirely fun... I hope no other Americans have to endure what happened to us.


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sweettater Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:26 AM
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6. I think that when we all
come to the realization that he dems are in up to their eyeballs in appeasing the repubs and are not going to alter their agenda we will quit bitching and get to the streets. Come on, I am no Einstein but I know 2 corrupt parties when I see them!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:28 AM
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7. waiting for a democrat messiah will be a long wait
it's up to us, not them, absolutely
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:31 AM
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8. headline on msnbc; "Coasting toward Confirmation"
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:36 AM
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9. Where are the people???
I don't see them. I've heard Democrats on all the shows talking about Alito and abortion and civil rights and America has said "ho hum". Maybe they were thinking the Vanguard thing would make people think he was tied into corruption, but people just don't think of judges that way. Maybe it shows where the mainstream really is on abortion and minority rights, I don't know. But don't put all the blame on Democrats in Congress when the people seem to be perfectly content with a right wing court.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:39 AM
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10. why can't we the people grill these nominees? why just a few jerks?
i personally would've liked to have asked him a query or two.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:49 AM
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13. Me too
Corporate personhood, #1. The judiciary committee isn't one of the better groupings of Democrats, that's for sure. Especially considering it's really the most important.
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sweettater Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:15 AM
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16. people seem perfectly content?
And what exactly are we supposed to do?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:21 AM
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17. What's the word in your town?
Anybody talking about it? Very few people in my town are talking about politics anymore. That's what I mean. 20% of the population can't force 80% to care. I don't know what to do.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:32 AM
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24. I have to agree with you on that one...
the 80,000 +/- on this board appear to be the only ones outraged,at least in my neck of the woods.I heard someone talking about fascism the other day(maybe it was Mike Malloy)saying this version would be like-get up work watch TV go to bed,while the government rules you.which works well until one part of the equation is disrupted.What if some day,you can't get up?Screw you.Can't find work-screw you.Lose your home-screw you.That's what concerns me,and why I won't give up.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:42 AM
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11. Elections have consequences
We are experiencing the worst of them right now.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:47 AM
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12. Bush vs Gore decision. Conservative Justices legislating from the bench!
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:00 AM
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15. It might be snarky of me to say so...
...but I hope that all those "there's no difference between the two major parties" Nader voters from 2000 have now seen reality.

Just a small switch of Nader voters in Florida that year would have resulted in President Gore making the second of his SCOTUS nominations right now.

Unfortunately, we can't turn back time...or undo lifetime appointments once confirmed. There will be little or nothing a future Democratic President will be able to do to overcome a hard-right, activist SCOTUS that will be locked in place until mid-century. :-(



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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:55 AM
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20. Counting the votes would have made all the difference in the World
But the USSC had to stick it's nose in where it had no Constitutional right too be. But who cares about that "G-D Damn piece of paper" anyway? Certainly it won't matter after Pinhead** gets his way, yet again.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:10 AM
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21. "there's no difference between the two major parties"
There isn't....

If there was, then the dems would have grown a backbone ans stopped rubber stamping the bush agenda. The neo-cons may be at the helm, but the dems in government have been in the engine room shoveling coal into the boiler...

With sadly few exceptions, there is no difference.

I wish this last election I had voted my conscience instead of throwing it to Kerry in the vain hope that it would count and that he would fight to have it counted.

If the Dem's don't stand against Alito, they won't stand against anything... except maybe the future dissolution of congress, in which case they would lose a fat paycheck and sweet benefits.


That's my rant...
Peace.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:00 AM
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14. "A hearing about nothing"..E.J. Dionne
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/12/AR2006011201502.html

A listless intellectual fog had fallen over the Senate hearing room on Tuesday, the first full day of questioning for Judge Samuel A. Alito Jr. before the Judiciary Committee. As one Democratic senator strode out to the hallway during an afternoon break, he leaned toward me and said: "We have to hit him harder."


The senator was expressing frustration over a process that doesn't work. It turns out that, especially when their party controls the process, Supreme Court nominees can avoid answering any question they don't want to answer. Senators make the process worse with meandering soliloquies. But when the questioning gets pointed, the opposition is immediately accused of scurrilous smears. The result: an exchange of tens of thousands of words signifying, in so many cases, nothing -- as long as the nominee has the discipline to say nothing, over and over and over.

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:45 AM
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19. Only question left: How many Democrats will OK Alito? the Nation
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:45 PM
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25. I'll be watching with keen interest who votes for this bastard! I know
I'm only one vote, but if Senator Bayh votes him onto the supreme court, I'll never vote for Bayh again!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:21 AM
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22. "The Seinfeld Hearing" . . . works for me . . . n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:25 AM
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23. And this ends any hope of impeachment. I decided this after watching
all of the hearing yesterday.
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