No Democrat can win if we don't fix the press

[dsc]

We have a new character in the 08 race. It is saint McCain. Saint McCain can do no wrong. He lies about Al Gore and he is said to be honest. Flip flops on Falwell he is just brilliant. Doesn't know the first thing about policy and he is just ducky. McCain is a good man but he is no saint.

In 2000 it was evil Al Gore. The man who would tell any lie, jettison any principle, and wear any clothes inorder to sully our White House. Now it is saint McCain who can literally do no wrong. If he flip flops it's smart politics. If he takes money from people who he denouces it shows he is uncorruptable.

Make no mistake about it. Just like Gore was taken down, McCain is being raised up. We need a liberal network it is that simple.

[magellan]

1. We don't need a liberal network

We need a news network that actually does its job and disseminates the truth instead of worrying about ratings and what the shareholders will think!

[Selatius]

4. Yeah, good luck with that

You don't own CNN or FOX news anymore than I do, but the shareholders on the board of directors do.

If whitewashing the truth and dumbing down the population by covering stories that have no national significance like missing girls in Aruba or another runaway bride story means greater profits, then the truth will be sacrificed.

"Freedom of the press is limited to those who have one." - AJ Liebling

The people don't own a press.

[MSgt213]

2. A liberal network would be ridiculed and you know it. Liberal is a dirty

word in case you haven't noticed. One liberal network against CNN, Fox and MSNBC would fail. But the problem isn't with the call signs anyway. The problem is much much deeper. Its with corporation owning the media and the government.

[dsc]

6. as Fox was at first

and look at them now. Fund a network and get it viewers and we will be fine.

[MSgt213]

10. Have you been paying attention to what been happening to Air America?

I'm just wondering because radio is a lot cheaper then TV and Air America almost folded.

[dsc]

11. that is because big money liberals won't spend the bucks

We need to spend the bucks. There are many, many wealthy liberals out there.

[AlinPA]

3. You nailed it. Totally agree.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

5. Exactly! I would yell at my TV during the 2004 election. It seemed

like anytime Kerry would be giving a stump speech, inevitably CNN or MSGOP would cut him off. Of course, then there are the pundits. Grr...

[Cha]

7. Sorry, no he's not

"a good man"..he reeks of bush stench to high hell.

And how are we gonna fix ze press?

Just remembered http://www.iwtnews.com/ in 2007!

And please contribute if you so desire.

[MrBenchley]

8. So how are you going to "fix" the press?

Or is your notion that we need a propaganda like Faux Noise, only spouting gibberish from Noam Chomsky and Alexander Cockburn?

[dsc]

9. We do need a liberal version of Fox

I would use either of them but an objective press isn't working for us. Using just good looking new readers and liberal pundits who spout the Demcratic party line is what we need.

[MrBenchley]

12. So the far left can lie as loudly as the far right?

"Using just good looking new readers and liberal pundits who spout the Demcratic party line is what we need."
Wow....such open contempt for your fellow citizens.

[dmr4567]

13. Thank God we have Keith Olberman

if it wasn't for him I wouldn't watch any TV news

[dsc]

20. They have bought lie after lie

we wouldn't necessarily have to lie just present our case and only our case.

[dysfunctional press]

23. to do what, exactly...? preach to the choir?

a "liberal version of fox" won't help against 4 major broadcast networks, plus cable.
and the newspapers.
and clearchannel radio and others.

[hfojvt]

17. you think Noam spouts gibberish?

and Cockburn's Counterpunch is not all bad except when he over-scrutinizes Democrats.

[ladjf]

14. Fix the voting process and we can win. The media in Venezuela

is owned by Chavez's opposition. The run anti-Chavez propaganda 24-7. Still Chavez wins. Why? Transparent elections. That's the ticket to Democracy.

[BeFree]

15. Fix the voting process

Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner!

[dsc]

21. How prevelent is the media in Venezuela

and also is all the media owned by the opposition? Somehow I bet there is a state network as well.

[ladjf]

24. I haven't researched this in detail, only read that the "media"

was owned by big business and that they are working against Chavez 24-7.

[mmonk]

16. I agree. The people have been

voting more to the right in recent decades because they receive bad information and propaganda and that is a high hill to overtake. There are still millions of Americans living in a total fabricated version of what is going on in the world and their country. This is only possible if people are made to think a certain way. It's not something they just "picked up on" through life experiences.

[hfojvt]

18. I suspect

that you've been reading the Daily Howler.

Yet, it is not just the way McCain is made into a Saint by the media, but also the way all Democrats are dismissed as panderers and politicians without principle. Which is why we also need to make plain that a) listening to the people, and b) adapting to the facts ARE principles - not pandering. This is the government OF the people, supposedly, so why not listen to a focus group instead of being a "decider" or a leader (the German word for which is what, again?)
And 'flip flopping'? I said way back that Kerry should have embraced that label and re-framed it. A flip flopper is someone who can learn, and someone who listens. Sometimes you have to say something different on Wednesday than you said on Monday - because of what happened on Tuesday.

[PublicRadioVet]

19. The problem with the media, as I see it...

...is that they are more interested in scandal and bad news--any scandal or any bad news from any direction--than they are in simply reporting the facts of any given matter in a disinterested fashion. Yellow journalism is more alive now than it has been in a long time, I am afraid. Everyone has a political bias and everyone pretends neutrality. Journalists aren't happy unless they are smearing and destroying someone in the public eye, especially elected officials.

It's a chicken and egg problem, really. If we the viewing and listening and reading public, demanded a higher standard, and refused to fund muckraking, then the muckrakers would slowly go out of business. Likewise, if politicians could stay clean and remain principled and not be fuckers all the time, the media would eventually run out of 'story' and go snooping for stories elsewhere. And finally, if journalists could stop being scandalmongers long enough to look at the big picture, maybe they'd regain the perspective and professionalism needed to attain and keep TRUE neutrality.

Alas...

:(

[dysfunctional press]

22. and a BIG Thank-You to Bill "DINO" Clinton for helping make the mess...

the Telecom Act of 1996 was signed on my 35th birthday.

[kentuck]

25. Democrats can win by attacking the press when they need it...

ABC and NBC are not going to defend CBS and vice-versa. The NYTimes is not going to defend the Washington Post. Democrats need to be less timid with the press.