"Bush One of Most Incompetent Presidents in Entire History" -- Fox News

[Leopolds Ghost]

Fox News today suggested that President Bush was not eligible for
impeachment because he is one of the most incompetent presidents
"in recent times -- if not in our entire 200 year plus history."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1279104

[ForrestGump]

1. Whoa

Goebbels is rolling in his grave...

[Philosoraptor]

2. Fox switches the "I" words on us.

Any time we say "Impeachement", they chime back, "Incompetent". We are so easily fooled out here in stupidland.

[The Backlash Cometh]

23. They're pleading the good ole boy defense!

I'm not kidding. There are two things a good ole boy in government will do when caught working outside of regulations. First, he'll try to pull your heart strings by telling you about his last operation or that he has six kids to put through college. If that doesn't work, he'll pull the, "I just didn't know," defense, and hope you think he's too stupid to be dishonest.

I had one eejit claim that he didn't have any background in community planning. A year later, he left the city when he heard I was making a public records request for every employee's resume. Right there on his resume it stated, "community planning." The guy, however, did not run far. The good ole boys hired him in another part of the county. When you've cultivated corruption in your employees, it's an investment.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

3. Well, it's about time! That's much better!

:patriot:Maybe they decided to do the right thing for a change,:applause:or maybe it's a cold day:scared:in Hell. :rofl: :bounce: :applause:

[Philosoraptor]

4. He's NOT eligible for impeachment cause he's the most incompetent?

Oy my head!

[gator_in_Ontario]

18. mine too

I reread it several times to make sure I wasn't missing something.

[Canuckistanian]

20. Is this like pleading insanity?

Because he can't help himself, he shouldn't be punished? Hmm, that's a new one.

But OK, I'll run with that. Let's just have him committed right now.

[The Backlash Cometh]

24. Smoke and mirrors.

Don't fall for the first argument.

[global1]

5. Couldn't Incompetency Be Somewhat A Justification For Impeachment? .....

Seens to me that an incompetent president is dangerous for our country. I'm thinking that incompetency would be part of the justifcation for impeaching this - doofus.

[Philosoraptor]

6. Only in a world where things made sense.

Not this world.

[rock]

9. Well, duh!

Impeachment is a political process. Therefore whatever Congress thinks is good for the country is reason enough. To put it another way, they only have to justify impeachment to their constituency. Incompentency in the president is dangerous for America.

[corkhead]

30. Impeachment is legally like an indictment, and unfortunately

you can't indict someone just for being STOOOOPID. Faux is implying that he isn't the lawbreaking chimp that he is.

[Trish1168]

34. Too stupid to know the constitution? Okay, so what's Gonzales' excuse?

Oops, I forgot that torture was illegal (the ban on it was really such a quaint notion, anyway). And, I didn't think they were serious about that part of the fourth amendment where they said you needed probably cause (I thought that was just for us government types). The first amendment? Well, I think your freedom of speech is just freedom to agree with the president (I don't see a problem with that). Hey, at least your still free to practice evangelical christianity. Afterall, after we declare martial law, we're going to need those preachers to quote from Romans and tell everyone that God wants us to respect our government. I also didn't think there was a problem invading another country that wasn't a threat. Afterall, we convinced ourselves it had to be a threat (because we wanted it so). So, we violated the UN charter, so what. Everybody does it!! Doesn't that make it defacto legal? Kinda like not driving the speed limit.

[xchrom]

7. if we can send mentally deficient people to prison

then we can impeach and imprison bushco.

[NJ_Lib]

8. Wait just a minute here... A judge once told me...

... stupidity and not knowing is not a defense and cannot be excused for breaking the law...


Well which is it, Goddamnit...?

[rodeodance]

10. but they end by saying we are stuck with him for another 2 [plus] years.

..We are, however, not a parliamentary system so we are stuck with Bush for two and half more years.

[Minnesota Libra]

11. Wait until after the November elections and then see how.........

.....many people change their minds about impeachment.

[WePurrsevere]

12. Faux News is WRONG.... He's BOTH.. Incompetent AND Impeachable

Although most here probably have these and possibly better here are a few sources for those that have been living under a rock and think BushCo is ONLY Incompetent:
http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1639
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=The_case_for_impeachment_of_President_George_W._Bush

Bush has committed far more impeachable offenses then Clinton ever did and NOTHING is being done. Those who are in the position to do something to stop, apprehend and prosecute a crime and deliberately do NOTHING (except look the other way or attempt to cover up those crimes) are also guilty of a crime and should be prosecuted.

edited to add: It's a good thing that they at least admit he's the most incompetent but they're using this to distract from the fact that he can be both incompetent and impeachable.

[Pachamama]

13. Is this the "Not guilty by Insanity" defense? n/t

:eyes:

[Leopolds Ghost]

14. No, they're saving that argument for 2007

"Perhaps Bush should resign to seek mental treatment, but the American people would never support impeachment and removal from office. It is not a crime to be mentally challenged! Democrats are overreaching badly as usual." --Hannity, 2007

[Philosoraptor]

15. The man couldn't hep hissef, he's incompetent ya' see.

Give the poor imcompetent bastard a break already.

[cassiepriam]

16. Isn't this just what impeachment was designed for, mental illness

or extreme incompetence??

[Pacifist Patriot]

17. I support Fox News!

50%

Let the preliminary hearing to determine Bush's competency to stand trial begin!

[Avalux]

19. So he's not accountable because he lives in la la land?

That's what I'm getting here. Bush is SO incompetent, the poor man can't be impeached because he knows not what he does, or what those around him are doing. :eyes:

[Captain Hilts]

21. 'Incompetency' is a judgment call and not grounds for impeachment. nt

[marions ghost]

22. "incompetent"????

:rofl:

Bushy & the NeoCONS are highly competent crooks...

Impeachment is too good for em. But we have to push for it as our only means of retaliation for such blatant abuse of power.

[petgoat]

32. our only means of retaliation

Retaliation is less important than repudiation of his agenda and overturning of his
precedents.

America must make a strong statement: "We will not tolerate tyrants, no matter how
stupid they are."

[marions ghost]

33. well isn't

retaliation = repudiation? Or do you see it differently?

[hippiechick]

25. Now THERE'S some logic!

"He's too useless to fire" !!! :rofl: :wow:

[Virginia Dare]

26. I knew it, the Kenny-boy Lay defense spin has begun...

This is how it's going to play out, they're going to paint Bush as a benevolent leader with an incompetency level along the lines of Mr. Magoo. His only "crime" is that he wasn't minding the store the way he should have and his minions took advantage of him.

If I were one of his "underlings" I'd be getting my affairs in order and covering my ass pronto. He's going to send everybody else down the river before he ever puts himself on the line.

[Skinner]

27. FYI: This is Martin Frost talking. Not Fox News.

Martin Frost, the Texas Democrat who was the Chair of the House Democratic Caucus before he lost his bid for re-election.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. Hitler was similarly "incompetent" and did not commit crimes.

In his 12 years of power, he wrecked the German economy, took the nation to war, made a joke of civil rights for German citizens, deported and killed some of Germany's most talented citizens, and ended up running the war he started with such stupendous incompetency that it was thoroughly defeated.

And, everything he did was "legal", or made "legal", under German Law.

[AlinPA]

29. Fox "News" said this? Or was it a quote ? Doubt the reporters on there

would say that about their God.

[npincus]

31. Martin Frost is a Dem- NOT representative of FUX opinion

at bottom of Frost's op ed:

Martin Frost served in Congress from 1979 to 2005, representing a diverse district in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area. He served two terms as chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, the third-ranking leadership position for House Democrats and two terms as chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Frost serves as a regular contributor to FOX News Channel. He holds a Bachelor of Journalism degree from the University of Missouri and a law degree from the Georgetown Law Center.

[Marr]

35. Yes, all their overt pushing for dictatorship was just accidental.

They were just trying to fund Head Start or something- but gosh darnit, they're so incompetent they fumbled it into secret prisons, torture, domestic spying, mariginalizing the Legislative Branch, trashing the Judiciary, claiming to be above the law, starting a war that benefits *only* their tiny clique, etc., etc.

I know where this guy is coming from, of course- the Bush Admin. has been pathetically out to lunch when it comes to serving the public interest. Katrina, for example. But most of the really terrible things that have happened have been the result of their getting PRECISELY what they wanted.

[Festivito]

36. Impeach! MEANS no pardons! MEANS not above the law!

Impeachment stops the president's ability to pardon.
Pardoning is THE REASON these dufusses place themselves ABOVE THE LAW:
. Torture
. Suspend habeas corpus
...

Republicans need TO BE ABLE to argue that NO ONE WANTED to impeach Bush, like they used the phrase EVERYONE KNEW SADDAM HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

These BOTH are not true. We need him impeached. His above-the-law reason needs to be pulled away from him and his fellows.

Ourselves and our world need to see that the human justice of the people in this country, that built this country, still rises above the petty evil of many who would defy the sense of justice as sensed and defined by WE THE PEOPLE.