Ha Ha! I totally changed a right wing rant radio show the other night.

[Solomon]

So it's about 8:00 p.m. and I'm driving home when this rightwing radio host, Chris something or other, starts up his show ranting and raving about democrats and immigration.

He wants to know why immigration is considered to be a "conservative" issue. He wants someone to tell him "what is the position of the democrats on immigration."

He rants he raves and it's clear that what he's actually doing is blaming democrats for our "immigration problem."

Well as I'm driving listenting to this crap, I start to get very angry.

When I get home I decide to do something I've never done. I call him up.

I get screened naturally but to my surprise they keep me holding. I wait about 15 minutes while he's ranting, stoking it up, taking rightwing callers, getting it to a fever point when he finally decides to let me in.

I start answering his question. "It's considered a conservative issue because of spin and propaganda like you're doing tonight."

"Democrats have absolutely nothing to do with immigration, never have had, never will." "It's big business and the wealthy elite who want this cheap labor to come in here to depress wages and whatnot."

He tries to cut me off but I won't let him. "You guys have the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the presidency, you have everything, so it's the republicans fault that immigration is the way it is". "So how the hell do you come off blaming democrats? Republicans created the situation but you are blaming democrats?"

He tries to recover. "But what's the democrats position on it, can you tell me that?" He says.

"The democrats position is irrelevant", I say. "It doesn't matter what they say or do, they have no power. So all you're doing with this radio show is stoking hatred."

Well he finally gets me off when he realizes he can't win. Then the rest of the night, all of his right wing callers start disagreeing with him.

That guy "Solomon really opened my eyes tonight. He made a very good point. Why can't the republicans fix this thing since we have all the power?"

The radio host had to stop bashing democrats, and start bashing "all politicians, democrats and republicans."

My daughter who just finished her second year of college almost killed herself laughing the rest of the night as she saw how I completely changed the show around.

Sorry about the long post. I had to get it off my chest though.

[rman]

1. most excellent!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. I don't know, dude. I really don't know.

how the HELL did you manage to listen to that garbage before you called in? You must the intestinal fortitude of my golden retriever. He'll eat anything and smile.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

7. It is a good Pain Reliever!

:hi::hug: It helped mine. It made me smile. Tell me it was O'Reilly or the pill popper, and that will give me some more pain relief. :kick:

[tenshi816]

3. Good for you!

This incident also hammers home the point that while the Republicans are always, always saying "the Democrats have no plan", the truth is that the only plan the Republicans ever have for anything is blame the Democrats. They're all about misdirection.

[liberal N proud]

4. FANTASTIC!

Way to tell the reich wing whore where to put it.

We love to hear of stories like yours.

[NJ_Lib]

5. I would have loved to hear it... Did anybody tape...?

... Great job, Solomon...!

Maybe we should all start calling in to our local Freeper shows and just explaining our positions nicely but firmly, maybe we can reach more ears than we think we can...

I'm so proud of you...! :hug:

[Guaranteed]

6. NICE JOB!!

You should be proud. :)

[DainBramaged]

8. The mantra should always be, they have complete control,

therefore they are responsible for fixing it. We have no say, and why should we, they don't give us any. Dem's are the straw man in all arguments. Thuglies should either fix everything or resign.

[Minnesota Libra]

9. You did good - and I wish more Liberals/Democrats would..............

...point out the complete control the neocons/fundies have on government when they blame us for their problems. :applause:

[Roland99]

10. Start at the local level. That's how the GOP got its power

[robbedvoter]

70. Nope. GOP got its power by buying media & stealing elections

Stop believing the grassroots BS! read Abramoff's methods

[anniebelle]

11. Ex-ce-lent!! That's what's needed at this point.

[acmejack]

12. Get it OFF your chest, get it ON your chest as in a medal!

Great job!

[Pacifist Patriot]

13. Excellent job and a point that should be made over and over and over.

Thank you.

[sendero]

14. Thank you...

... to be honest, getting on a call-in show is one of the last types of media exposure available to us. All of us who are capable of making good points should be calling all of the jerks. I would, but I have a hard time maintaining my cool in the face of blatant bullshit. :)

Great job!

[Joe Chi Minh]

15. Hilarious! You're well-named.

[Ghost Dog]

16. That's a good lesson taught. Way to go. They have the power,

have had for a long, long time now.

Even Clinton had to buckle-under and conform, in order to run a halfway-practical presidency, to a very high degree.

The ball is in their court. Now take posession and run with it.

[mark11727]

17. Thank you --- this is the best mood I've been in all week...!

:toast: :hi: :toast: :hi: :toast: :hi: :toast: :hi: :toast: :hi: :toast: :hi:

[SunDrop23]

18. Good job!

WTG!

[Gman]

19. High Five!

Good job!

[TheCowsCameHome]

20. Nice job! They say we are irrelevant, so let's throw it back at them

Let them choke on their own words.

[tlsmith1963]

21. Good For You!

And it *is* Big Business that is causing this situation. Them & the free trade agreement. Immigrants are the victims, too, not the cause.

Tammy

[Justice]

22. Proving the Point that If We Got more air time to tell the truth, the wind

would change.

[wicket]

23. That's awesome!!!

:yourock:

[spooky3]

24. Solomon, you kicked him HARD! Fast thinking and

you are so right.

[Stinky The Clown]

25. That argument works for ANY issue these days

Good for you!

[LaPera]

47. You have it exactly right...ANY ISSUE!!! Dem's should pay attention!

[Stevepol]

26. The Dems position on immigration.

This was part of the above great rant:

He tries to recover. "But what's the democrats position on it, can you tell me that?" He says.

"The democrats position is irrelevant", I say.

But actually the Dems could have a very simple solution, stated by Molly Ivins and others: ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS.

As you indicate in your rant: "It's big business and the wealthy elite who want this cheap labor to come in here to depress wages and whatnot."

So the simple solution: Enforce the laws about hiring illegal immigrants. Arrest the wealthy employers of these immigrants and really stick it to the Rich who are creating the problem. If enough of these guys get arrested and have to cool their heels awhile in prison, the employment end of the equation would dry up and almost instantly the immigrant problem would cease. Presto chango.

That's the only real solution, if you want to stop the immigration. If you want to just moderate it, then you could allow certain worker programs like the bracero program, but even then you'd have to crack down on those EMPLOYERS outside the law, not the poor and uneducated workers who are just doing what anybody in their shoes would do.

[Canuckistanian]

27. Excellent response

And good framing as well. Bring the fight to them instead of always playing defense.
Turn the argument around. Make them face a few obvious facts if they're unhappy about the government.

This is a GOP problem. They've had over five years to do something about it. They've failed and now they're looking for scapegoats.

Don't let them get away with it.

[KharmaTrain]

28. It's Fun To Bash These Asshats Around

It's been a couple months since I had my last fun with a wingnut talk show host, but there are plenty to go around and most speak in echo chambers. Just like people here will not listen to anything but Air America, many of these goons haven't heard anything but the Right wing spin on issues for years; festered by talk show hosts hired for their ability to be racist flag-waivers. Most of these "hosts" are un-informed other than the talking points they gleam off of Rushbo or off Faux Noise...thus when they're confronted with facts and forced to confront their own hypocrisies, it's fun to hear them squirm.

Kudos to the poster for bringing some truth to these morons...probably the first time there's been some reality injected on that station in years. I strongly suggest others to do the same...it's not hard to do and can be fun when you get a wingnut host doing the "porky pig" to come up with some moronic spin. Never lose your cool...never sound mad...just be prepared. Some shows actually will move a "librul" caller up cause the host thinks he's got some patsy on the line...those are the ones I really enjoy turning inside out.

[Toots]

29. Why do you listen to people like him and give them your support?

I don't understand.:shrug:

[yellerpup]

30. True feeling honestly expressed

is power. Way to speak up and speak out! You have just proved that actions do make a difference. :kick: :yourock:

[catmandu57]

31. They own everything, lock, stock, and barrel

They have the power, not the us, if things aren't the way they think they should be then it's easy enough to change when you have a lock on power.

[rniel]

32. One arguement I've heard when I pointed out the same thing

I told him Republicans control all of government for 6+ years now. It's their mess.

He said some republicans are not pure republicans and are too far to the left. They're the ones ruining everything. That's a stupid arguement, but that's all the ammo he could come up with. Pretty pathetic.

[kentuck]

33. Huzzah !

:)

[NJmaverick]

34. we need more like you!

Great work!

[eleny]

35. The power of one!

:kick:

[puerco-bellies]

36. Bravo Zulu Solomon.

You deserve a medal for actions above and beyond the call of duty behind enemy lines.

[colorado_ufo]

37. Thank you! You made my day! Fan-tas-tic!

[wryter2000]

38. Well done!

You're a helluva lot braver than I am. :applause:

I'll bet he screens you better from now on.

[ArbustoBuster]

39. Thank you!

You made yourself a light of reason in the sea of insanity that is Chris Whatzisname's radio show!

[crispini]

40. ROFL! K&R

:kick:

[spuddonna]

41. You rock!

Excellent job! :applause:

[zbdent]

42. Bravo!

Bravissimo!

[zbdent]

43. Does the idjit have

a podcast?

If so, bet that part doesn't make it.

If it does, post the link . . .

[IndyOp]

44. The Republicans Are In Control of House, Senate & White House

Many people don't even realize that the Republicans are in the majority in the House & Senate.

Most people don't understand the extent to which the party that is in the majority can control everything that happens - and this Republican House & Senate are *extemely* controlling.

That is a BIG message for 2006:

The Republicans Are In Control of House, Senate & White House

The Republicans Are In Control of House, Senate & White House

The Republicans Are In Control of House, Senate & White House

The Republicans Are In Control of House, Senate & White House

[barbtries]

83. don't forget

the courts and the voting booths. they have every fucking thing that made america great.

[Initech]

45. Awesome!

:yourock:

[Uncle Joe]

46. Thanks for turning your rage, in to some shared wisdom, Solomon.

May they see the light.

Kicked and recommended!

:kick:

[LaPera]

48. What show & city?

[Solomon]

69. Washington, D.C. What was so funny about it is that I knew from

watching how the right wing operates that you have to make your point quickly. He tried to interrupt but I wouldn't let him. I just kept talking when he tried to interrupt, like I couldn't hear him, only he knew I could hear him because I started talking louder to get over him.

He quipped, "I see you're not a great conversationalist are you"? I said, I am when I can finish my point before you ask me a question.

He tried a couple of questions, but I nailed him each time so then he figured he'd be better off letting me go.

His own right wing callers started turning on him at that point, and later in the show he joked about getting beat up.

[Donailin]

77. I live in DC too, what station?

AM/FM? More details please. . .

[Solomon]

78. I think the guy calls himself Chris Plank or Chris Plaque or something.

I can never quite remember the last name for some reason. Anyway I noticed he had a stand-in tonight.

The radio station was 6:30 a.m. You know, the same station here that does Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and apparently now in the evening, Chris Platt or something.

One reason I called is that I could see he wasn't as experienced in throwing a person off as Hannity, and O'Reilly and their ilk. He's a rookie.

My instincts worked as when he tried to cut me off, I ignored him and overtalked him until the point got out. Once the point was made he could do nothing. For example, my telling him that all he was really doing was stoking up hatred really hurt him. Because if there's nothing democrats can do about the situation, then why stoke up hatred against them for their views. Their views are irrelevant.

He should have focused on the republican leadership and expressed his anger there. But he was too stupid for that. Until his own audience started to turn on him.

[coalition_unwilling]

49. I love watching the Repukes devouring their own, as the

nationalist wing of the party butts up against the corporatist wing of the party. Hard to know exactly where the evangelgical kook wing of the party comes down on the issue, but I wonder what Jesus would do with immigration? :) (Methinks He would be helping undocumented workers make the crossing :)

[MazeRat7]

50. Excellent !!! Most Excellent !!!

[ComerPerro]

51. Thats where they turn when they know its the Republican's fault

they plame "all politicians".


I've never heard a right winger blame just republicans for republican problems.



And, you are absolutely right. The Dem position, right now, is irrelevant.

What we know for sure, though, is that the Republicans aren't prepared or willing to do anything...

[proud patriot]

52. Excellent

:D

[NoAmericanTaliban]

53. Good Point - It is the Corp. that want the cheap labor & they are GOP

donors so it goes right back to them. Good Job!!

[linazelle]

54. Sweet! n/t

[Lasher]

55. It was disingenuous of him to ask what the Democratic position is.

That was to imply that there is one position on immigration on which nearly all Democrats agree. There is not. Wonder what the Republican position is?

[GreenPartyVoter]

56. Yoot!

[ThoughtCriminal]

57. Important lesson

Talk radio is really awful for honest debate and it was really smart not to take the "What is the Democrats position?" bait.

[bdamomma]

58. great exchange

I liked when you said "The democrats position is irrelevant, and they have no power". that probably shut him up.

[Senator]

59. Well done! -- The same "flip" can be done with Impeachment

Yes, really.

That's why there will be no "backlash" should the Dems find a spine somewhere. And why the Repubs use of the "oh no, impeach" line has been very targetted and subdued.

The truth is that the rank-and-file lock-stepper hasn't been taught to think, or been persuaded to agree with some political position, they've only been trained to be angry.

That anger is a very loose cannon. It turned toward the bushkid over the ports and can turn and start firing impeachment ammo, over any number of bush crimes, at any time.

Add to that their paranoia (and misogyny) and we should keep whispering; "You can have Pres. Hastert now or Pres. Pelosi later."

They could dump him before the mid-terms (again - yes, really).

--
www.january6th.org

[BigBearJohn]

60. WELL DONE! I'M PROUD OF YOU!!!

:bounce: :yourock: :bounce: :yourock: :bounce: :yourock:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

61. Now THAT'S An Awesome Story.

Sometimes I think we DU'ers don't take advantage nearly as much as we should the concept of calling in to talk radio and swarming them with our well thought out arguments. It is something every DU'er can participate in and as you've just shown, can be extremely effective at times.

Great job.

[tinfoil tiaras]

62. Oh. My. God.

I HAVE TO DO THAT...but sadly, I dont know any RW radio shows around Jackson, Miss., though I'm sure they're are alot of 'em...debating with my dad on a weekly basis is I guess like talking to a RW radio talk show host?

I was trying to find the link to "Enter and win Breakfast with Fox and Friends!" but sadly, I couldnt. I was going to enter that and pray I won so I could embarrass them on national television in front of all their Freeper viewers.

[linazelle]

68. LOL. Find that link dammit! n/t

:hi:

[tinfoil tiaras]

92. Well, I did find this link

http://shop.ecompanystore.com/foxnews/FOX_ProductList.asp?CATALOG=FOX&ID=42&TYPE=FF&MU=3&SUBTYPE=Miscellaneous

FOX NEWS GEAR!!! OMGZ I HAV 2 HAV 1 UF THOSS!!!!

:rofl:

and Chimpy approval ratings updated weekly!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,144315,00.html

[RagAss]

63. My Newest Hero !!!!!!

[Hatalles]

64. LOL. That's great. nt

[Cha]

65. Thank you! Somebody

that got through to them!

[PatrioticLeftie]

66. Good on ya!

But I would be wary, I don't have a lot of faith in right-wing hosts to keep their word.

[deaniac21]

67. There is no way any of them would have the intelligence

that you obviously have. They are unable to clearly express their thought and ideas as you do. It was probably the first time they were ever exposed to true enlightenment. Keep up the good work! Maybe you should start your own show...

[Dr Fate]

71. You should give lessons to national Democrats...

...the thing they forgot how to do was to fight back.

Thanks for not "letting it go."

[KeepItReal]

72. Kudos!!!

Way to handle biz!!!

[BrklynLiberal]

73. So, one person CAN make a difference...and it was spread around to all

the listeners of that show. KUDOS!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Ksec]

74. and..they cant blame Dems for what Reagan did in the 80s

Its clearly their doing and they caused the problem/

Good job .

[YankeyMCC]

75. Well done!

[Donailin]

76. can you name the show, city state, channel?

Link? Thanks!

[Solomon]

81. Here's the guy.

http://www.wmal.com/showdj.asp?DJID=28590

[lonestarnot]

79. Woooodamnwhoo! Yes on you! Good good! You be good one!

[msanthrope]

80. Good for You!!! n/t

[barbtries]

82. applause

i can't even listen to them let alone engage one in conversation. i wish i had been listening last night though; do you know if it's a show that might be available for listening online?

[jjmalonejr]

84. Nice

You should be proud of yourself.

[Octafish]

85. Great job, Solomon!

Thanks!

PS: Would you consider calling in a lot of other shows, too?

[lancepiercejr]

86. Hell, yeah, Solomon!

Nicely done, sir. Here in Colorado, we've got a whackjob on latenights called John Caldera, and I busted his ass about racial profiling , but the same thing happened when I reminded him of our Bill of Rights. I suggested HE might be racially profiled the next time a fundie nut-job decides to kill a doctor with a high powered rifle for providing abortions. "The target suspect will likely be white, conservative, and republican..."

As such, if you've read all the way to here, maybe check out: http://callingallwingnuts.com

[pauliedangerously]

87. That was gorgeous....

Cheers to you...you've done something we all wish we would do.

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

88. Kudos! The wisdom of Soloman applies. n/t

[Solomon]

89. I'm glad I posted this now. I almost didn't.

I'm glad you guys made me look the radio host up. His "resume"looks impressive. How can youhave that on your "resume" but be so stupid.

I don't get it.

[donheld]

91. I'm glad you posted this too

His "resume" is probably falsified like so many others.

[CoolOnion]

90. related item--Air America caller

I was listening to Ed Schultz yesterday, and a man called in from South Texas. The caller said that his local right-wing shows have been running nothing but "happy news" lately--recipes, local sports, human interest, etc. Nothing about the issues lately, 'cause they can't bash the Democrats for anything!

[ProfessorGAC]

93. Nicely Done!

That's fun stuff.
The Professor