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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:12 AM
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Question: Can Bush do a mid-term appointment with Alito
Say the filibuster goes through and there is a log-jam getting Alito into the Supreme Court. Could Bush do a mid-term appointment just to get Alito on the bench even though Alito would have to be renominated/replaced after the next congressional term?

I'm thinking there will be a filibuster and Alito won't get the nomination. That's good for us because Sandra Day O'Conner stays in the seat and she is pro-choice. But could Bush make that appointment during recess just to get Alito on the bench for a short period of time to cause some havoc?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:13 AM
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1. He sure can n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:31 AM
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8. He does whatever he wants
His recent "signing statments" are a great example of that. :grr:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:32 AM
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9. He has a constitutional power to make recess appointments
If Alito is not confirmed by the time Congress recesses, he can make a recess appointment.

Unfortunately for him, O'Connor's resignation has an interesting clause that she will remain on teh court until a nominee is confirmed.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:40 AM
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12. I'm glad she did that then!
n/t
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:14 AM
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2. Alito's going to be seated in a walk.
No filibuster, no nothing. 70+ votes.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:16 AM
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4. Right, like so much else...so much ado about nothing
Alito is in and the Democrats didn't touch him. What else is new?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:16 AM
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5. Let's play chess sometime - I probably beat you in about 10 movies
Because with your gameplan you'll just tell me your entire strategy before you even move out your first pawn.

Reid would never ever in a million years announce we're filibustering this early in the game.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:28 AM
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7. Play 5 card stud with him - at least you can make a few bucks.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:33 AM
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10. This isn't about Dems being crafty . . .
It's about there being no there there.

Alito has portrayed himself as highly competent (meaning he REALLY stands out among Schimpanski's other nominees), and "conservative" in a way that many (if not most) Americans think is just fine by them.

There's no traction. Certainly no traction for a filibuster.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:39 AM
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11. The you know nothing about strategy
his record alone is worthy of a filibuster and even Joe Biden said that the hearings are pretty much a farce because the guy has been coached by the repuke advisers to say nothing.

Seriously, I'm thinking poker would be better than chess. I could use some extra cash!
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:42 AM
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13. Look, I don't deny that he's unfit to sit.
Only that he's gonna sit. No way can they launch and maintain a filibuster.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:47 AM
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15. Well, then obviously you're not watching much of congress
they have the goods but they aren't talking about it.

Please go to the home page and read the newsarticle about how Biden thinks that these hearings should just go away because essentially they are broken.

And here is where you are absolutely wrong - Miguel Estrada.

When Estrada's nomination for the 5th Circuit court came up to plan the republicans used the same exact strategy as they are using now for Alito. They coached Estrada to say nothing and reply with vague answers. Now my other senator, Tom Carper, is a bit of a moderate and sometimes I worry that he's going to crossover and support some of these judges. And I wrote many times (like I am now) about filibustering Estrada.

Carper's first replies back towards me were "I'm keeping an open mind, listening to what is being asked & said in committee and even planning on meeting with the nominee to ask questions of my own. I'm especially interested in receiving specific information in certain areas about certain items"

Carper's final reply after he supported the filibuster was this: "Estrada refused to fully answer several key questions and release certain requested information. His vagueness justifies why I supported the filibuster.

Ultimately this happened:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/04/estrada.withdraws/
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:54 AM
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16. MY GOD YOUR DAMN CLUELESS
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 09:54 AM by LynneSin
DId you even bother to read my last post

My moderate, a DLC-card carrying moderate democrat (That's Tom Carper) wrote to me and said he found

VAGUENESS WITH THE ANSWERS

(is that big enough so you can read it) as a legitimate excuse for the filibuster of Miguel Estrada. ANd they can keep filibustering him until he either answers the questions or Bush recess appoints him
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:41 AM
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17. Cranky, cranky, cranky.
I think you're wrong. I don't think the oomph is there for a filibuster. I watched the Estrada case and the whole tenor was different, and the ground was prepared for filibuster for weeks.

However, you're convinced that the dem leadership is girding itself for a fight on this one.

Let's wait and see.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:42 AM
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18. Did you just read what Reid said
He even came out and said that he's asked democrats to not discuss the votes or anything about the filibuster.

They have every right to filibuster and their justification is clear as can be: Alito choose not to answer the questions, he was vague
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:15 AM
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3. Can and would, but it would only be a few months,
Because all the terms Bush has end in 2007 when congress starts up, Jan 2007 I think, so he would be on the bench for 4 months tops
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:17 AM
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6. True and he would be renominated again because I don't think...
...democrats will get majority in the senate. I do think they'll get the house but we need 6 pickups and not lose a seat and one of those pickups has to be Ohio where Blackwell & Diebold controls the voting machines!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:52 AM
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19. Look how much * does in a day, lots of damage

Lielito would be dangerous for one second on the court.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:47 AM
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14. No way he would do this, he wants a lifetime appointment.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 11:07 AM
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20. I thought recess appointments were for an EMPTY seat...
Ms O'Conner said she will step down when a replacement is confirmed, didn't she?
It would appear until she actually steps down, there is no vacancy to fill.
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