BREAKING: Jurors reach decision in Enron Trial - 12:00 EDT

[im10ashus]

PLEASE let it be a guilty verdict.

http://www.cnn.com/

[rpgamerd00d]

1. 12:00 EDT? Its currently (as I type this) 11:21...

[im10ashus]

3. That's when they will make their annoucment.

At 12:00 EDT. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

:-)

[11 Bravo]

5. They've reached a verdict, they're going to announce it at 12:00.

Memo to Lay and Skilling: when you drop the soap in the prison shower, JUST LEAVE IT THERE!

[stop the bleeding]

2. WELL PEOPLE - GUILTY or NOT GUILTY? n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

6. GUILTY as sin...

but they have some powerful pull...I'm betting they will get a tiny slap on the wrist, because Kenny knows too much on Bush and Cheney to do any serious time!

[RB TexLa]

7. maybe a couple of counts n/t

[karlrschneider]

13. There's a poll on the CNN page, I voted but it still showed no results

...

[elehhhhna]

4. The judge in his Bank Fraud trial is holding his verdict until after this

one is announced...there may be convictions on BOTH (several counts in each) today!

He's going to the big house.

[IChing]

I hope so, but justice has not been so blind lately

I hope it is not a slap on the wrist.
His company was responsible for the election of our Governor here in California and contributed to the financial crisis.

[Roland99]

8. Guilty *and* a lengthy prison sentence!

[stop the bleeding]

9. You all should post an Official Thread when this is announced n/t

[FreakinDJ]

10. Guilty Verdict would help US economy

[dogday]

11. All my local Houston channels

are covering this....

[Coexist]

16. Not here - not even our all news network

just CNN and MSNBC.

[dogday]

22. ABC, CBS, and NBC

are showing it, the rest of the locals are not... Thought I should correct that.. :hi:

[Coexist]

12. can you please change the title to Official Enron Thread

to help avoid all the dupes that will be coming?

[marions ghost]

14. thanx for headsup

If they don't convict these guys it will be a BAD sign. I mean, how bad do you have to be...?

We need to prosecute white collar crime JUST like any other. I heard the other day some joker on NPR call it (quote) " a 'business case, as opposed to a criminal case.' This is EXACTLY how they see it and want the public to view it--like it's a lesser offense. Never mind that it is a violent invasion of the rights of others and shatters lives all the time. But it's 'not criminal.' :mad:

[Coexist]

15. the chatter on MSNBC and CNN make it sound like he might get off

but I doubt they have any inside information.

[dogday]

17. Funny on the local level

they are saying the same thing...

[marions ghost]

25. yeah ... hope it's chatter

...but I am steeling myself for that possibility. I don't have any real faith in the justice system anyway, so if he gets off, it will just add more evidence for systemic dysfunction. I couldn't get more cynical than I already am.

[Philosoraptor]

18. Gimmee $50 on TWO GUILTYS

A good money bet.

[RB TexLa]

21. 2 out of 6 for Lay? that's pretty much what I think

[IChing]

19. This is one of georgie's texan friends so watch out.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay1.html

They were deep friends

[IChing]

20. Notice the media doesn't talk about the Bushenfurher's relationship with

Enron and their cohorts

[DFW]

23. Five minutes to go........

My fear is they get off lightly, if not completely.

My hope is that they are put away for a long while.
Just because Ken Lay didn't use a Saturday Night Special
to rob ten thousand people of their savings and toss several
thousand out of work, doesn't mean he is innocent. If he gets
off and starts playing golf with Bush Lite again, you'll never
convince me that the verdict was impartial and fair.

Down Texas way where the Oilers play
I am known as a gallant southern gentleman
I lost my grip, my reputation slipped,
And now George Bush, he avoids me like the Taliban

He wrote:
"Sad to say, goodbye Ken Lay
"We won't play golf for many a day."
My stock is down, my corporation's aground,
I'm only left with my mansion in Houston town.

From Enron Farewell by The Freedom Toast (on Sing Along With The Republicans)

[PDittie]

24. Local coverage reporting

Even if the two men are only convicted on a single count, they will be put away for 15-25 years, or effectvely the remainder of their lives.

[Coexist]

26. if that gives some peace to the lives they ruined -

then they need to pay that price.

[IChing]

28. They will appeal of course, they have the money and the time

A bank robber does not go to trial until 5 years after the crime and has been free to continue their life,
yeah that happens all the time.

[PDittie]

27. The key is the first count

of conspiracy. Guilty on that one, guilty on just about all of them. And if they say "not guilty" on that, then it's likely not guilty on all the rest (according to the legal analyst/'expert').

Sheesh. All or nothing on a virtual roll of the dice.

[PDittie]

33. "I sense it won't be a good day"

For Lay and Skilling (legal analyst on local news says this).

Jury came back too quick. He's predicting a unanimous verdict on all counts.

[dogday]

29. Jeff Skilling Guilty on Conspiracy!!!!1

Guilty on all counts through count 36

[Beaverhausen]

31. please keep posting as they are read

I'm not where I can see or hear it.

thanks!

[im10ashus]

91. WOO HOO!!!!!

LOVE IT!!!

[Jacobin]

30. parade rain warning

Out on bail pending appeal for 18 months. After prez election, Bush pardons his good buddies (who he hardly knows)

I would not mourn vigilante justice for these two who have decimated the lives of tens of thousands of people.

They are utter scum.

[Coexist]

32. SKILLING GUITY ON CONSPIRACY!! to commit fraud

and guilty on Count #2

[dogday]

34. Ken Lay Guilty on all six counts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rucky]

36. no shit?!

:wow:

[TahitiNut]

41. YES!!! !!! !!! !! !!! !!! !!! !! !!!! !! !!!

:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:

[TahitiNut]

49. Ken Lay also GUILTY for Bank Fraud in separate bench trial!!!

:party:

Rot in jail, you filthy crooks!

:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

42. Yeah!!!!!!!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Coexist]

35. Skilling guilty on 19 counts!

[Coexist]

40. Holy Shit - I never thought it would happen.

[dogday]

37. Ken Lay not guilty on counts 42-51

[IChing]

38. Lay guilty on all 6 accounts

Now the appeal another 5 years?

[magellan]

43. Will they do time while awaiting appeal? (nt)

[IChing]

50. I hope so if they were normal convicted criminals but who knows

these days.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

39. OMG!!!

Guilty !! Guilty!!! Guilty !! Guilty!!! Guilty !! Guilty!!!


:bounce:

[rucky]

45. YAY FOR JUSTICE! n/t

[Gregorian]

46. Some things are worth waiting for!

WOW!!!!!

May there be more on the way...

[brook]

44. GUILTY!

Sweet Justice!

[dogday]

47. They are both facing 25-30 years

Reporter believes they will get time in the decades...

[Coexist]

53. I hope those stockholders and pensionless people feel a small weight lift

off of their shoulders today.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

55. Facing, yes! Serving? Think of how close the Shrub is to Ken Lay.

Another reason why the Shrub has to be Impeached.

[Coexist]

57. what dirty boys they are. n/t

[Mist]

48. Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! And here's your personalized prison flip-flops

Wear 'em proudly, you thieving sacks of shit.

[DemReadingDU]

51. WooHoo, guilty!

Time to go after Bush and this administration. They are running our country like Enron!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

52. dow slowly rising

went up 3 pts in the brief period i was watching. 70 to 73

[RB TexLa]

It might go up based on the not guilty on insider trading on Skilling

but not on the guilties

[dogday]

54. We Houstonians did not forget

what these rich bastards did to so many of our fellow neighbors, relatives and friends...

[Gregorian]

56. Finally, we're getting somewhere!

May this be the beginning.

[dogday]

58. President's Friend Found Guilty

let's hope one day the title will be President Found Guilty!!!!!

[IChing]

65. Good luck with that one, no mention by the media to remind the

masses that these criminals were firmly attached to beast.

[dogday]

68. I guess it is up to me then to remind people

They are friends and also with the Dick... They are the biggest bunch of crooks, said John Kerry when he thought his mic was turned off... He sure was right about that....

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

73. Me Too....The President's Friend, Ken Lay found guilty...

The President's Friend, Ken Lay found guilty...
The President's Friend, Ken Lay found guilty...

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

67. Will the MSM pick up the "President's Friend" Found Guilty of ...?

the President's Friend Kenny Boy Lay
the President's Friend Kenny Boy Lay
the President's Friend Kenny Boy Lay
the President's Friend Kenny Boy Lay

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

69. and let's hope that we can Impeach him, and find him guilty before

he pardons them.

If he does pardon them...do you think he'll ever be able to set foot in Houston again?

[dogday]

86. No freaking Way!

I am telling you there will be parties tonight, and all weekend long celebrating this... The depth of sorrow in this town when that happened, it was like it happened to all of us...

[brook]

72. Lest we forget:

"I don't know no Kenny Boy"

I hope * and the Dickster just lost their Wheaties!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

77. Yeah, he didn't know they guy who gave him a corporate jet to campaign

with...right.....

[brook]

82. I want to see

the Lay-White House connections recounted in every media forum now. Sadly, perhaps only Keith Olberman will be brave enough to include this most appropriate background to today's verdicts.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

83. You're right about Keith. And another lest we forget......

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushlay1.html

[Jed Dilligan]

59. One case I'm for the death penalty on

Our shit court system will give them a tiny little slap on their dainty little wrists, though

[PDittie]

60. Four days of deliberations

and a verdict in time to enjoy the holiday weekend. I'd say the jury had their minds made up when they got the case.:evilgrin:

[dogday]

61. Can I just say how proud I am to be in Houston Today!!!! nt

[Coexist]

62. Skilling NOT Guilty on insider trading

[Mist]

63. Why are talking heads on MSNBC seemingly so down in the mouth

about the guilty verdicts? Aren't they paid to act?

[IChing]

71. They said the media for some reason didn't think the charges would stick

They are sounding down about this..... I get the same impression as you.

[dogday]

74. The locals in Houston

seem like they are pretty happy... It affected many of us here... I remember seeing so many people leaving the Enron building with boxes of stuff.. It was is so sad how they lost everything they worked for in their lives....

[Coexist]

76. I hope this helps them heal a little.

Dirty, greedy, arrogant pigs.

[dogday]

78. They are taking calls

and the people are saying they got what the deserved....

[Xenotime]

64. GUILTY!!!!!!!!!

GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!GUILTY!!!!!!!!!

[Coexist]

66. "based on the amount of fraud, they cannot be stiff enough"

Dan Abrams on a "piling on of penalties" comment by talking head.

Thank you for that sanity.

[dogday]

75. Reporter here said he believed the

Judge will make an example of them.. They hurt many people in this town....

[Coexist]

70. Enron victim is thanking the jury on MSNBC... I have chills.

She JUST got a full-time job with benefits. She had been doing contract work. She is "just now getting some kind of stability".

She lost $200,000 in this mess.

[Coexist]

79. "Skilling and Lay brought arrogance to Enron"

Houston attorney. He is discussing how much they hurt Houston.

[dogday]

80. 9-11 will be the sentencing date!!!!!!!!!

September 11,2006 Weird huh? :crazy:

released on 5 million dollar bond, have to turn in passports...

[Recursion]

85. Out on bond?

I'm sure if I had stolen billions of dollars I'd be allowed out on bond until sentencing...

[suffragette]

81. A savory main dish of justice

and a piquant side of :applause: for the jurors.

[Coexist]

84. Everyone - Please remember this moment - because 20 years from now

the next Ann Coulter wannabe will be using Enron as an example of a liberal anti-business witch hunt. She/he will be screeching about how they were victims and how this hurt corporate America.

Please remember these details - the stories of people whose lives they ruined who are crying and celebrating on the air now. Remember that they WERE guilty.

[marions ghost]

88. ouch

good reminder. The witch at the grave of her master.

Awwwwwww poor abused Lay and Skilling...watch for the revisionist history...

[Coexist]

89. and there WILL be revisionism on this one - mark my word.

[Coexist]

87. "the pain, the panic, the fear (we felt) ...now he is feeling that"

Enron victim on Skilling's press conference.

[dogday]

90. Ken Lay will probably spend the rest of

his life in jail said a reporter to another woman who lost everything..

Do you feel sorry for him he asked?

She said no... Ken Lay encouraged their employees to stay with the stock and to buy the stock when he knew it was failing... It is sad, but they are happy to see them hang here...

[lpbk2713]

92. I was just watching Ali Velshi reporting for CNN

And over his shoulder I saw Ed Bradley talking to someone. So evidently "60 Minutes" is doing a piece on this.

[im10ashus]

93. That will be interesting.

I hope they interview both their sorry asses. I want to see them grovel.