Dulcinea
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Thu May-25-06 11:14 AM
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A suitable punishment for the Enron felons: |
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Don't send Ken Lay & Jeffrey Skilling to jail!
Make them pay back all the money they stole, personally apologize to all their former employees who were left with nothing, & sentence both of them to toil for minimum wage for the rest of their natural lives. People like them fear poverty more than anything, so make them confront their worst fear. Let them try to get by on what so many of their former co-workers were left with!
I only wish.
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Thu May-25-06 11:16 AM
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1. True. They will likely get to keep what they stole. |
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Thu May-25-06 11:17 AM
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2. I agree, jail is too good for them when you consider the devastation |
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they wrought on others. They need to make restitution, just like Earl in My Name Is Earl. They should fix all their dirty deeds, and if it takes them the rest of their lives, so be it. That would send a powerful message to others who might consider such things in the future.
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Thu May-25-06 11:17 AM
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They should have to work for the people they bilked out of their entire nest egg. People who were loyal to the company for decades. They should scrub their toilets, wash their cars, and pull their weeds while begging for forgiveness. I would say change some crappy diapers only I wouldn't trust them near young children.
They're suffering some consequences for their actions but they're not humbled.
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Dulcinea
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Thu May-25-06 01:22 PM
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might be a good line of work for them.
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Thu May-25-06 11:17 AM
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now THAT would be justice.
(Dulcinea...what a pretty nickname, and a lovely song)
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Thu May-25-06 11:20 AM
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How sweet of you to say! :loveya:
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Thu May-25-06 11:19 AM
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5. Make them work 40hrs at *two* minimum wage jobs...80hr weeks |
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Thu May-25-06 11:38 AM
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17. Yeah and with absolutely NO BENEFITS! |
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See what it feels like you jerks! :grr:
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Thu May-25-06 11:19 AM
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6. No. Let them rot in jail. I know many working poor who are happy. |
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It's an insult to minimum wage earners that these two CRIMINALS would have someone's regular life, as their "punishment".
I know plenty of people that are poor, and live happy lives.
Life in prison for these two scum-sucking criminals...
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Thu May-25-06 11:21 AM
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9. Would a federal prison sentence really cause them any suffering? |
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I doubt it.
Unless it was a life sentence.
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Dulcinea
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Thu May-25-06 11:22 AM
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10. Maybe if it was Super Max. eom |
Beelzebud
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Thu May-25-06 11:36 AM
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14. So you advocate letting them go free? Get real. |
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You act like the working poor are just miserable slaves.
Most of my friends are the working poor. Hell, I AM the working poor.
Am I living a life of misery and suffering? Nope.
But I would be if I were in jail...
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Dora
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Thu May-25-06 12:00 PM
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20. Please don't make hipshot assumptions about what I think. |
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We're rapidly on our way to being members of the working poor ourselves. Hell, most others probably would call us that. I have no such attitude about the working poor being "just miserable slaves." Where you find the grounds to make such a baseless accusation is beyond me.
I'm entirely aware that money and happiness are not related, and that a person and a family can be "poor" and find their life filled with riches. We count our blessings and our joys every day, even though we're scraping the bottom of our checking account each month. We know a depth of experience and satisfaction that many of our friends with more money are missing out on.
MY POINT is that to be poor would be a punishment for Lay. It's entirely contextual. What do these venal bastards fear most? Poverty and powerlessness. A stint in the federal pen would do nothing to them, unless they received life sentences without chance of parole.
Welcome to "ignore.".
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Thu May-25-06 12:08 PM
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21. Jail is worse than freedom. |
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You can't spend money in prison.
And go ahead and put me on ignore. If that is how you deal with things, so be it.
Freedom for criminals, and ignore opinions you can't handle.
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Thu May-25-06 11:37 AM
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15. Gitmo. Or someplace like Cook County pen, so they could get what they gave |
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... with no lube and no reacharound.
Put it on pay-per view. Use the proceeds, along with their amassed fortunes (cash, stocks, 401k's, sell their homes, cars, yachts, furniture, clothes, everything) to help pay back the people they ripped off. Leave their families broke like the rest of us, so their wives and kids have to work minimum wage jobs.
And don't give me the "their families don't deserve to be punished" line. Their families are living like royalty ONLY because of their criminal actions. The families may not deserve to be punished, but they don't deserve to live like kings either. Put them where they belong, right with the rest of us peons and make them work for it just like we have to.
Besides, it will be nice for Lay and Skilling to know that their actions not only screwed them, but their families as well.
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Thu May-25-06 11:46 AM
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18. You're missing the point. |
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Ken Lay & Jeff Skilling would be miserable as working poor people, not happy like you & your friends. To them, privelege is everything.
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Thu May-25-06 11:49 AM
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19. They'd be miserable in jail.... Thats the point you miss. |
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It's insulting to suggest their punishment should be living like the rest of us.
Fuck that.
If I stole a lady's purse I'd be in prison.
These guys raided pensions! It's time for PRISON.
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Thu May-25-06 11:20 AM
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8. True. Impoverish the fuckers. Take their cash and assets. |
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Issues of "liquidity" shouldn't be an issue anymore. Let's make these venal fuckers struggle like we do.
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Thu May-25-06 11:23 AM
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11. That would suit me, my mom lost >$100,000 |
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Thu May-25-06 11:29 AM
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12. Station them in Iraq for a year |
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Their mission? searching for and detonating roadside bombs.....hey, someone has to do it.
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Thu May-25-06 11:35 AM
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13. As the Eddie Murphy character in the movie Trading Places says |
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"...the way you hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people..."
:evilgrin:
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Thu May-25-06 11:37 AM
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16. You and me both! Let them work at a crappy, minimum wage |
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job, live in the crummiest trailer park you can imagine, where they hear neighbor's fights all the time, don't have medical/dental insurance, etc. have a crappy old car, or no car at all, etc.
If only!
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Common Sense Party
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Thu May-25-06 12:16 PM
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22. One lesson for all of us: don't invest in company stock in your 401(k) |
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You probably don't work for the next Enron, but you never know. The Enron employees who lost EVERYTHING had all their retirement savings in Enron stock. When the company went teats up, the stock became almost worthless.
Diversify among mutual funds, where your risk is spread out among many stocks and bonds. A good rule of thumb is to never have more than 10% of your savings in any one stock, especially if it's the company that signs your paychecks.
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Thu May-25-06 12:25 PM
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23. Take the Money that they got by breaking the law ! |
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and all the interest that illegal money made .
let them earn Money legally .
Give them Community service work . picking up trash , preschool work with poor kids . Let them know the people who they hurt and make amends .
In California , money that was stolen is returned .Public Pensions that were raided should be reimbursed . Investment and Tax incentives for alternative energy like solar and wind energy to power our homes .
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