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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:43 AM
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Extremists Declare 'Open Season' on Immigrants
Extremists Declare 'Open Season' on Immigrants: Hispanics Target of Incitement and Violence
Posted: May 23, 200

Overview

As the public debate over immigration reform has taken center-stage in American politics and public life, white supremacists, neo-Nazis and other racists have declared "open season" on immigrants and attempted to co-opt and exploit the controversy by focusing their efforts -- and their anger -- on the minority group at the center of the controversy: Hispanics.

As a result, to a level unprecedented in recent years, America's Latino immigrant population has become the primary focus of hateful and racist rhetoric and extreme violence -- aided, abetted and encouraged by America's white supremacist and racist haters.

Spurred in recent weeks by the debate on Capitol Hill and the groundswell of grassroots activism in support of America's immigrant community, extremists have become increasingly emboldened by, and fixated on, the controversy over immigration policy, encouraging their supporters to capitalize on the issue by encouraging anti-immigrant activism, and even violence against all Hispanics.

While white supremacists have for many years attempted to exploit rising anti-immigration sentiments in the U.S., the level and intensity of their attacks against Hispanics has reached dangerous new highs, with right-wing extremists joining anti-immigration groups, distributing anti-immigrant propaganda and holding frequent anti-immigration rallies and protests.

As a result, Hispanics, regardless of their citizenship or immigration status, increasingly are becoming the targets of hatred and violence from hardcore white supremacists.

Continued @ http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/immigration_extremists.htm



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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:56 AM
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1. This references American Patrol's Minutemen...
... one of the Federation for American Immigration Reform's (FAIR) subsidiary organizations. Interestingly, a number of DUers have been known to cite FAIR and the Minutemen in their anti-immigrant arguments. Yet they insist there's nothing racist about the sources they're quoting, even though those sources associate with all of these neo-nazis and white supremacists and Aryran nation people. I guess their affiliation with those guys is just a random coincidence.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 12:35 PM
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2. it's so quiet I could hear a CLOCK ticking
Well, the bigger argument:

Who has the bigger lobby. In the end the only thing that matters is how many briefcases stuffed with 100K go to whom in our congress.

Oh and that little old gorilla in the living room: not everyone who looks like an immigrant is an immigrant. And there are a lot more of THEM than white supremacists. In fact there are a lot more of THEM than there are policemen, soldiers and national guard combined.

Just something to keep in mind the next time some small group of self-important assbrains with legs calls for "open season" on a rather large group of people anywhere, for any reason.

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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 04:04 PM
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18. Yep FAIR is backed by reichwingers.
I remember a long time ago debating this hear on DU but people still don't get it. It's run by this reichwinger. http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1360 If you can stand the link, read on.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:05 PM
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33. Thank you for bringing that up
Yes, FAIR is very racist.
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 12:58 PM
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3. I'm personally nervous about this whole thing
We have many of these people in Phoenix now wearing their guns on their waistbands, spouting off racist remarks in open public toward anyone who looks like an illegal immigrant.

I'm hispanic but a native of Arizona as well. Hell, my family goes back many generations here and I personally don't know Spanish that well. But that provides me no comfort at this point. I fear as things get worse at some point someone's going to get shot. I've already had racist remarks directed at me for no other reason than I happen to exist.

It reminds me of the anti-abortion movement that got so severe and ugly with the hateful rhetoric spewed by the republicans. They may have not personally told the fanatics to go shooting doctors or blowing up clinics, but they sure fueled the fire and helped them get motivated. They gave them an excuse with their self-righteous attitude. In my opinion that is what is happening today.

If one of these racists starts shooting at some point, claiming self-defense or in the name of America I will not only blame them for their actions but hold the whole republican leadership accountable!
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:44 PM
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5. There is reason to be nervous... and to stand up against these racists...
The Violence: Growing Number of Assaults
Posted: May 23, 2006

Here are some of the hate crimes committed by white supremacists against Hispanics in the U.S. in the past three years.

    April 29, 2006, New York. A teenager was arrested in East Hampton, Long Island, after he allegedly threatened a Hispanic teenager with a machete and chased a second teenager with a chain saw while shouting racial epithets. Described by classmates as a skinhead, the alleged perpetrator had previously posted to the Internet photographs of himself posing as a Nazi and adorning a shed with swastikas. He and two others, whom police have allegedly linked to the incident, were suspended from school.

    April 22, 2006, Texas. David Henry Tuck, 18, and Keith Robert Turner, 17, were arrested and charged with aggravated sexual assault in the brutal attack of a teenage Hispanic high school student in Houston. The victim was beaten and sodomized with a plastic pipe from a patio umbrella, then kicked in the head with steel-toed boots. He was left with head wounds and major internal injuries. The victim had bleach poured on him and was burned with cigarettes. Witnesses allegedly stopped the attackers from carving something onto the victim's chest. Tuck is a self-described skinhead who sports Nazi tattoos. In 2003, at age 14, Tuck and two adult white supremacists were implicated in the racially motivated beating of a Hispanic man, according to court records and witnesses. The two adults received federal and state sentences for their role; juvenile records are not public in Texas.

    January 2006, California. Ryan Nicholas Newsome, a member of the Another Order white supremacist gang, pleaded no contest on January 20, 2006, to assault charges in Yuba County. He pleaded no contest to assault with force likely to cause great bodily injury with a criminal street gang enhancement as a result of an August 2005 incident, in which he and an associate allegedly assaulted a Hispanic man.

Continued @ http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/immigration_extremists.htm?Multi_page_sections=sHeading_4


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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:03 PM
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8. This just makes me sad
Hatred makes me sad.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:49 PM
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6. Welcome to DU, 987654321!
:hi: :hi: :hi:

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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:59 PM
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7. thanks
Your icon is the awesomist! Okay, I know that's not a word, but the message is just so right on the money. I'd like to use it for some fliers I am creating on the suffering of the poor and injured children in Iraq. May I?
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:16 PM
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11. You're welcome
If you mean my 'POVERTY' avatar, thank you (whether or not it's a word :) ), and yes, you're quite welcome to use it. The fliers are a wonderful idea!


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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:38 PM
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15. These were the same FREAKING ASSCLOWNS who called for
"open season" on all "Muslim-looking" persons right after 9/11, and IIRC, they murdered a Sikh from India somewhere in the Southwest; apparently, they were offended by his turban. This was one incident amongst several that occurred at that time... :grr:
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 06:03 PM
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23. This is more widespread I'm afraid
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:17 PM
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4. I'm worried about both sides.
Racists can be racist, as long as they do squat about it. I've heard anti-white rhetoric, and hold it and anti-Latino and anti-black rhetoric and anti-male and anti-female and anti-Asian (need I go on?) in equal contempt. Before people say that it's all a question of power, I've seen 'minorities' abuse their authority in racist and sexist ways with about the same frequency that 'non-minorities' do; for me, the racism isn't a question of power, except incidentally. But I digress.

My most recent alumni newsletter just arrived in the mail. The university administration apologized for a grad student's presence on campus, and gave his name and department. He'd been identified by some publication covering white supremacists in a neighboring state, and he was IDed as a grad student at my alma mater--mind it, it's not a small private school, it's one of these huge mega-campuses, and it's seen many changes in the 25 years since I set foot on its campus.

The university was abjectly sorry that they'd thoroughly investigated this 'student' (with everything in the context saying 'student' was a euphemism for 'piece of shit') and found he neither did nor said anything questionable, either in the courses he TAed, or in his interactions with other students in his department or elsewhere--they'd checked with friends, colleagues, mentors, teachers, students. Therefore, while it's truly lamentable that they can't expel the student and revoke his funding because he has chosen to associate himself with a thoroughly reprehensible group of people and an loathsome ideology, they ask for the public's sympathy. They'd really like to punish him for what he thinks and believes, but they're constrained by federal and state law to ... ick ... punish acts, not speech acts (off campus), so they can't. Their heart's in the right place, though.

Of course, this was mostly a bone to donors. But the thinking behind it is also reprehensible.
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El Zopilote Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:10 PM
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9. "Extremists"
Edited on Thu May-25-06 02:15 PM by El Zopilote
Extremists can be extreme as they want to be. They don't matter. They are just a bunch of tough-talking bubbas and the whole nation knows it.

These bubbas, bumpkins and goobers bet learn to speak Spanish and behave themselves. The United States Senate is about ready to pass a bill which will welcome Hispanics and keep the border open to them. If white conservative pendejos don't like it -- that's just tough tacos! You're about to get your due! ¡A la pared!

We march today and vote tomorrow and your politicians are fully aware of that fact. We seek the allegiance of all minorites in a mutual quest to take command at the ballot box. Unity and total togetherness. Glory and victory to our martyrs.

Pray that we will be kinder to you than you were to us.

El Zopilote -- a mojado with an education y tarjeta verde!

A la espera de sus prontas noticias, le saluda atentamente.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:11 PM
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10. It's not the extremists that are the problem.
It's the vast masses of "moderates" who are falling for this racist bullshit.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:55 PM
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13. Yes, the "moderates" are all over the place
even here at DU sorry to say.

One thing the RepliCONS know how to do very well is to fuel the "HATE DEBATE."

They have a way of influencing people with otherwise clear minds to be afraid of Minorities.

Minorities are not the problem, the people in power are the problem.

Bush knows he doesn't give a s--- about minorities.
If he did my people would not have been wading in the water all those horrible days.

All he is doing is protecting his corporate buddies for Free Almost Labor and Huge Profits.

And, he is trying his best to fool the Hispanic voters that he tricked into voting for him last time, to be foolish again.

His Guest Worker Program is nothing but a smoke screen and behind the scenes he is laughing and drinking with his hate filled buddies on the other side of the ReCON party.

In the final analyze, it is ALL ABOUT RACE.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 05:29 PM
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22. Yes, they do know how to fuel the "HATE DEBATE".
Sad to see so many falling for it... again. Really sad to see it here.

Yes, bush is probably laughing & drinking w/his hate filled buddies. As low as his poll numbers are, he's still managing to manipulate the masses... w/the help of his backers.

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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:20 PM
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12. Here is what gets me about these idiots...
they target all things "hispanic." Like anything "Hispanic" is at fault.

Those bastards fail to realize that of the 229 Texans that have died in the war, 157 of them have Hispanic surnames. Way to spit on the defenders of your country, assholes.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:15 PM
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14. Yes, they are good enough to die for Amerika

but not good enough to live here.

Do me if you are willing to die for this country, you are an automatic citizen and your family should be citizens too.

IMO, you should not be able to join the Army if you are not a citizen.

Funny, they are not asking them to SPEAK ENGLISH, they are asking them to DIE.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:53 PM
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16. I became a citizen right after high school...
and joined the Army a few years later. My ex-wife joined the Army before she became a citizen. She was a good soldier. I met several in my stint in the Army who were not citizens but were no less loyal to our country Native Born Americans.

I feel that an immigrant who is willing to volunteer to serve already has the makings of a true a loyal American.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:09 AM
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25. I agree nt
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 03:58 PM
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17. Are they going after Canadians next?
If they go after Captain Kirk, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young or Mike Myers, damn, that's the LAST STRAW!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:12 AM
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26. My bet is they will not say a word if 2000 Candaians came

over the border tonight with their all their family members, animals and tinker toys!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 04:06 PM
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19. wonder if they will use Lou Dobbs battle cry

And say they are "killn' in tha name of tha middle class!"
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 04:31 PM
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20. It's the main reason I've haven't taken the bait on the
sudden immigration problem. I'm not going to be led around by the nose by the ruling right nor diverted from the main problems facing our slipping democracy right now.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 04:33 PM
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21. ...
:toast:
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:04 PM
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24. evening kick
:kick:
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:00 AM
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27. read as: brownshirts hunting out Jews and Gypsies
the neo-Nazis have been waiting under their rocks for a chance to co-opt the "conservative" agenda (which in reality is as racist as the N.N.s)

Thus we see the true face of the Neo-Cons/extreme R.Wing as the closet neo-Nazis they truly are.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:11 AM
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28. Any day now it will be time to organize escorts for our neighbors
like we did after 9/11.

This really, really worries me -- even more than the post 9/11 hatred because on the whole, the Thuggery has a lot more practice targetting Hispanics and the buttons push deeper.

:(
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:46 AM
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29. "... since 2000, the FBI has reported over 2,500 hate crimes... "
While most hate crimes targeting Hispanics have not been the work of the extremist groups themselves, the groups' virulent anti-Hispanic rhetoric has contributed to a broader climate of hate. Thus, it comes as no surprise that since 2000, the FBI has reported over 2,500 hate crimes directed at individuals on the basis of their Hispanic ethnicity. The reluctance of many victims to cooperate with law enforcement authorities compounds the safety risk.

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Extremism_72/4904_12.htm



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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:55 AM
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30. Every country, the same ignorance...
Degenerates, the world over, claiming their disease under the name of
society, nation or civility, but the actions amount universally to
abuse, to threats and bullying, yawn... until underverse come...


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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:02 AM
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31. ...
:kick:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:56 AM
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32. Sapphire, I am constantly in awe of you!


You remain in the corner for justice at each and every turn.

You never give up!

Your spirit inspires me and I can only pray that I have even a spoonful of your wisdom.

PEACE


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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:16 PM
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34. ...
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:28 PM
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35. Kick for our better selves.
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