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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:24 PM
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Freepers: Enron/Lay was a CLINTON scandal.
Edited on Thu May-25-06 01:30 PM by 11 Bravo
"Watch for Pelosi to come out in minutes linking Lay to Bush"

"Or mention Lay's links to the Clinton administration..."

"Not a word about how he's been convicted by a government Bush leads, for crimes committed during Clinton's time."

"Looks like the Dems and their culture of corruption are taking a beating."

"Isn't there a photo of bjc golfing w/ Lay."

"They didn't have to dig far before they found out that Clinton had been in bed with them big time and they backed off it real fast."

"It's a shamed (sic) that the Texas Governor at the time wasn't allowed to crack down on Enron at the time ...Clintoon must have forbidden that governor to take action."

Yep, no two ways about it Freeps. Your boy Bush never even HEARD of "Kenny Boy"!

I honestly don't know what I feel most for these poor deluded asshats - pity or contempt.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638152/posts

on edit: added link
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:27 PM
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1. They're well beyond pity in my book
and some are beyond contempt.

They've had ample time to wake the hell up.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:13 PM
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20. They have got to be paid operatives. Nobody is that stupid. nt
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Opening_Day Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:28 PM
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2. Neither?
Edited on Thu May-25-06 01:28 PM by Opening_Day
Mayhap?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:29 PM
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3. What a group of dumb fucks.
I'll bet Hillary had something to do with it too.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:29 PM
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4. So Pelosi has to link Lay to el pretzeldente?
What are they - deaf, dumb, or just plain stupid??
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:31 PM
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8. All of the above?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:30 PM
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5. Yeah, Clinton called him Kenny Boy
and wasn't Lay considered for a seat at Bush's cabinet?
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:34 PM
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14. Yes, and he also was a member of the Transition team after Bush
was appointed President.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:00 PM
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17. And Bush flew on Enron's private jet while campaigning.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:30 PM
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6. Contempt
They refuse to see the facts. Shrub was buddy-buddy with Lay when he was Gov. and Lay helped bankroll his run for Pres. Then Shrubby invited him into the White House to write the energy policy that is draining our wallets and filling theirs.

I would pity them if it was just stupidity.

I do pity them for their obsession with Clinton though. Must be rough getting through those long lonely nights with visions of the Clenis dancing in their heads. :awwwwww:
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:30 PM
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7. Sounds like they're getting their talking points
from Rush or another RW idiot.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:32 PM
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9. Actually it was a Gore scandal since he was elected in 2000.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:32 PM
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10. Is there no depth to their delusional idiocy?....n/t
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:33 PM
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11. Can you post the letters from GWB/Lay found at smokinggun.com?
like we can here?

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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:33 PM
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12. Have these Freepers learned Englsh yet?
Don't give a damn what they think until they learn to spell.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:34 PM
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13. BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT!!
AND WHO PAID FOR *HES AMERICAN AIRLINES AIRCRAFT FOR *HES CAMPAIGN IN 2000??


KENNY LAY!..who paid for the crew?? Kenny Lay

Who paid the expensive landing fees?? Kenny Lay

Who paid for the food on board?? Kenny Lay


the fucking freepers can spew all the bullshit they want...who met with Arnuld before fucking calif for energy?? kenny Lay and his boys..and they were in Cheney's energy group...

fuck the stupid assed freepers..they are irrelevant..and they are shrinking in numbers daily! there are no more stupid people in the world!

fuck them and fuck what they say!

they are less than irrelevant!

they are pond scum!

fly

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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:35 PM
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15. The Republican Rationalization Chart (tm)
The Republican Rationalization Chart

step 1 - We didnt do anything wrong
step 2 - OK, we did do something wrong, but Dems did it too
step 3 - OK, Dems didnt do it, but they knew about it and should have stopped it
step 4 - OK, Dems didnt know about it, but they have done things that are just as bad
step 5 - CLINTON!
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:10 PM
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18. That's great...

It always does get down to Step #5...

:rofl:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:12 PM
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19. THAT really deserves a thread of its own!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:17 PM
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23. Pure brilliance. nt
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 01:57 PM
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16. Except....it really wasn't.
DUer Tempest posted this in another thread that provides a little reality to their self-delusion-



The Repugs prevented Clinton from going after corruption

That's the real sad part about it.



Had he been successful, President Clinton would have brought the following reforms:

1) Stopping Auditor-Consulting Conflicts by Accountants

In 2000, Clinton Securities and Exchange Commission Chair Arthur Levitt, Jr. proposed regulations to prohibit accounting firms from simultaneously serving as consultants and auditors. Arthur Andersen and other accounting firms mounted a massive lobbying campaign against the Clinton-Levitt regulations, killing them. *The lead lobbyist for the accounting firms was Harvey Pitt. After being sworn in as President, George W. Bush named Pitt chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission. *

2) Greater Disclosure of Energy Derivatives

In 1997, Bill Clintons Commodities Futures Trading Commission Chair Brooksley Born proposed greater regulation (by way of more stringent disclosure) of energy derivatives, the key financial instrument in Enron's Ponzi-scheme empire. Her proposal was beaten back by House Republicans, including then-House Banking Committee Chair Jim Leach (R-IA) who scolded her for two hours at a hearing.

3) Oversight of Energy Traders

In 2000, William Rainier, Born's successor as chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, told Congress that he was "deeply concerned" about a bill to exempt energy trading from CFTC review, noting that those who trade energy derivatives were not subject to any other oversight. Rainer's objections were largely ignored by the Republican-controlled Congress, and the exemption, heavily backed by Enron, became law.

4) Cracking Down on Tax Havens

In 2000, Clinton Treasury Secretary Larry Summers proposed a crackdown on tax havens such as those used by Enron. With the US co-chairing the OECD's Forum on Harmful Tax Practices, Summers crusaded for a crackdown on money-laundering and tax havens. His proposal was opposed by the GOP Congress. When the Bush Administration took office, Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill abandoned Summers' crusade, telling the Wall Street
Journal, "The government has not been respectful of the cost it imposes on society." The New York Times reported that Bush's top economic adviser, Lawrence Lindsey (a former economic adviser to Enron) also opposed efforts to crack down on tax havens.

5) Protecting 401(k)s

In 1997: Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) proposed banning investment of more than 10 percent of the total 401(k) plan in the employer's stock--the maximum that investment experts recommend a person sink into any company. The GOP Senate watered down her bill so much it no longer applied to any corporation in America;

6) Protecting Investors and Shareholders

On December 20, 1995, President Clinton vetoed the Public Securities Litigation Reform Act, which would have restricted lawsuits against corporation accused of securities fraud. In his veto message, Clinton presciently noted that while he supported the notion of reducing frivolous lawsuits: "I am not, however, willing to sign legislation that will have the effect of closing the courthouse door on investors who have legitimate claims. Those who are the victims of fraud should have recourse in our courts. Our markets are as strong and effective as they are because they operate -- and are seen to operate -- with integrity. I believe that this bill, as modified in conference, could erode this crucial basis of our markets' strength." The GOP Congress overrode Clinton's veto.

Wendy Gramm, wife of Texas Republican Senator Phil Gramm also aided Enron's rise to power. As the lame-duck chairwoman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, she pushed through a key regulatory exemption on Jan. 14, 1993, six days before Clinton took office. Five weeks later, she joined Enron's board of directors.

The exemption was passed over the objection of the Clinton administration.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:15 PM
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21. yeah, yeah, yeah
and Ney was a Clinton scandal and Cunningham was a Clinton scandal and Delay was a Clinton scandal and Libby was a Clinton scandal and Rove was a Clinton scandal----yep, they're all Clinton scandals!!!!! The precious is too pure to be involved in anything dark.:sarcasm:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 02:16 PM
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22. LOL THERE'S that spin we knew was coming! nt
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