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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:40 PM
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The Phenomenology of Synchronicity in the Universal Mind
"If you get down and quarrel
everyday
You're saying prayers to the
devil, I say
Why not help one another on
The Way
Make it much easier.
Say you just can't live that
negative way
You know what I mean?
Make way for the Positive Day
'Cause it's a New Day,
New Time, New Feeling, yeah!
Say it's a New Sign
Oh what a new day ....
Picking up
Are you picking up now?
Jah love, Jah love
protect us...."
-- Positive Vibration; Prophet Bob Marley


Sometimes I have mentioned some of the lessons I have learned from Onondaga Chief Paul Waterman in discussions on the Democratic Underground. I was thinking about Paul today.

On Tuesday, June 13, 2006, there will be a presentation in Binghamton, NY about the Onondaga Nation's Land Claims. I've mentioned the case before. It is not about getting any land back from non-Onondagas. It's not about money. It is to attempt to force the federal government to enforce their own environmental laws, and to get Superfund Toxic Waste Dump Sites cleaned. That benefits everyone.

It's a different type of "leadership" than the United States usually offers. It involves creating public awareness of what is of value, and of the possibilities that are waiting for us if we make them happen. It's that New Sign, it's that New Day, that New Feeling. Are you picking up?

Chief Waterman was on the Onondaga Council of Chiefs, and the Haudenosaunee (Six Nations Iroquois Confederacy) Grand Council of Chiefs. The Haudenosaunee served as inspiration for the Founding Fathers of the United States. They practice what is known as The Power of the Good Mind. It's one human potential. But it isn't available to those who get down and quarrel every day.

One of my favorite books about the Power of the Good Mind is Paul Wallace's "The White Roots of Peace." My edition has a letter from Dennis Banks, the AIM leader who was given sanctuary at Onondaga 23 years ago. Boy those were the days. I could tell you stories about how destructive some of the fights between people associated with AIM got to be. Most of them were started by people that didn't want AIM to do well. But that's not my focus now: if I were to attempt to argue with all their nonsense, I'd be wasting my time. Better to focus on what is good.

The media can be good. Bill Moyers did a great interview with Chief Oren Lyons for PBS. Of course, there are people who don't want Bill Moyers to do well, either. I do, because he knows a heck of a lot about how this country is supposed to be run, and he's not afraid to say it. I do not feel any need to defend Bill Moyers when someone attacks him.

I was pretty happy to see Dennis Banks on Truthout in the past few weeks. There aren't too many media sources that offer the public access to Dennis Banks. That's a great thing about Truthout: it provides a wide range of valuable information to it's readers. And just like on DU, I may not agree with everything I read. Not every opinion expressed, or claim made, is going to be perfect in every way.

But when I see Truthout attacked, I think it is important that I try to think about the Power of the Good Mind, and instead of trying to respond to attacks, put my money where my mouth is. I recognize that others have the right not to like Truthout, and I am not asking them to support it. But for those people who do like Truthout, I would ask that you consider not quarreling with those people. Let's try to have positive discussions, and I would ask people to consider making a contribution to Truthout. I'm going to.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:44 PM
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1. Message from Dali Lama, similar advice exactly the same
results if taken seriously and applied.

http://www.gaiamind.org/dalilama2000.html
Message from The Dalai Lama

Many people seem to be excited about the new millennium, but the new millennium in itself will be nothing special. As we enter into the new millennium things will be the same; there will be nothing unusual. However, if we really want the next millennium to be happier, more peaceful and more harmonious for humankind we will have to make the effort to make it so. This is in our hands, but especially in the hands of the younger generation.

We have had many experiences during this century - constructive as well as extremely destructive ones. We must learn from these experiences. We need to approach the next millennium more holistically, with more openness and farsightedness. If we are going to make the right kind of efforts to make the future of the world better, I believe the following matters are of great importance.

1. While engaging in material progress and taking care of physical well-being we need to pay equal attention to developing peace of mind and thus taking care of the internal aspect of our being.

2. Along with education, which generally deals only with academic accomplishments, we need to develop more altruism and a sense of caring and responsibility for others in the minds of the younger generation studying in various educational institutions. This can be done without necessarily involving religion. One could therefore call this 'secular ethics', as it in fact consists of basic human qualities such as kindness, compassion, sincerity and honesty.

3. This past century in some ways has been a century of war and bloodshed. It has seen a year by year increase in defense spending by most countries in the world. If we are to change this trend we must seriously consider the concept of non-violence, which is a physical expression of compassion. In order to make non-violence a reality we must first work on internal disarmament and then proceed to work on external disarmament. By internal disarmament I mean ridding ourselves of all the negative emotions that result in violence. External disarmament will also have to be done gradually, step by step. We must first work on the total abolishment of nuclear weapons and gradually work up to total demilitarisation throughout the world. In the process of doing this we also need to work towards stopping the arms trade, which is still very widely practiced because it is so lucrative. When we do all these things, we can then hope to see in the next millennium a year by year decrease in the military expenditure of the various nations and a gradual working towards demilitarisation. Human problems will, of course, always remain, but the way to resolve them should be through dialogue and discussion. The next century should be a century of dialogue and discussion rather than one of war and bloodshed.

4. We need to address the issue of the gap between the rich and the poor, both globally and nationally. This inequality, with some sections of the human community having abundance and others on the same planet going hungry or even dying of starvation, is not only morally wrong, but practically also a source of problems. Equally important is the issue of freedom. As long as there is no freedom in many parts of the world there can be no real peace and in a sense no real freedom for the rest of the world.

5. For the sake of our future generations, we need to take care of our earth and of our environment. Environmental damage is often gradual and not easily apparent and by the time we become aware of it, it is generally too late. Since most of the major rivers flowing into many parts of south-east Asia originate from the Tibetan plateau, it will not be out of place to mention here the crucial importance of taking care of the environment in that area. 6. Lastly, one of the greatest challenges today is the population explosion. Unless we are able to tackle this issue effectively we will be confronted with the problem of the natural resources being inadequate for all the human beings on this earth.

We need to seriously look into these matters that concern us all if we are to look forward to the future with some hope.

January 1, 2000

signed

Department of Information and International Relations
Central Tibetan Administration
Dharamsala - 176215 H.P. INDIA
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:48 PM
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3. A beautiful message.
Thank you for that.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:58 PM
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6. I was just thinking about sychronicity...eom
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:11 PM
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10. Direct Mind Experience, book you might like, I was just thinking
about it.... :)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1878683012.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1878683012/sr=8-4/qid=1148692125/ref=sr_1_4/102-1510122-0817729?%5Fencoding=UTF8
This is an example of the teaching style of a truely great man. Richard Rose was one of the greatest spiritual advisors of all time. I recommend reading this fine selection of lectures and talks of Mister Rose in his prime. His writings are of great value, but this is a Zen Master, One on One up close and personal. Outstanding!!!

This one's great. I can relate to the students asking questions at the lectures. I feel this speaker is right on target. This guy knows something.

Like the best NOVA special on esoteric philosophy, or a search for truth, 'The Direct-Mind Experience' is undiluted and to the point.

At the front of the book are good introductions to the six lectures (given at various universities) by Richard Rose. After the talks, there is a chapter about points of reference for a spiritual searcher. He concludes with a one page statement directly to the reader.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:00 AM
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38. Thank you!
I will try to pick up the book when it is possible to do so.
"Krishnamurti:Talks and Dialoges" is a great one, if you haven't already read it.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 05:39 AM
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41. Krishnamurti's
"Meeting Life: Writings and Talks on Finding Your Path Without Retreating from Society" is also very good.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:45 PM
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2. k&r
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:51 PM
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4. Love The Title
and am appreciative of the message that goes with it.

*shadow government*
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:56 PM
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5. Reading
certain books does that, you know.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:02 PM
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7. ... like cool, clear water
on hot stones...

You are good for DU.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:06 PM
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8. Come Monday ......
I'll be pouring .....
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:30 PM
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15. Ahh, I would love to..
It would be a fitting Memorial day.
(I will come North someday, sir)
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:18 PM
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35. Sweating in the dark, sitting in a circle, taking turns
speaking from the heart...DU's a lot like that sometimes, isn't it?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:20 PM
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36. Yes,
it is.
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:08 PM
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9. Will the presentation be advertised?
Time and location? I'd love to attend.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:11 PM
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11. 6-13-06
at 7:30 pm, at the Unitarian Universalist Church, Riverside Drive, Binghamton. (Next to Lourdes Hospital.) Hope to see you there!
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:23 PM
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13. Awesome, my nieces were born at Lourdes
so I know how to get there. I'll try my best to make it.
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:11 PM
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the Power of the Good Mind...
Thank you H2O,


I badly needed a reminder of what are my values and beliefs because I was gradually convincing myself that it was morally OK to hurt somebody else with words.


Synchronicity in the Universal Mind
While tears are rolling down

I wish I knew how to write those words in bold letters.

I feel "reconnected". If it make any sense.

lise
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:42 PM
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18. Thank you.
The quarrels on DU are not helping anyone in the progressive movement. The majority of DUers have a lot of positive energy to offer. We should all -- and I certainly include myself -- try to focus on that.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:11 PM
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12. The Power of the Good Mind
Edited on Fri May-26-06 08:28 PM by MuseRider
Wow H2O Man, just wow. I have often thought around this but never really hit on it. I am going to order that book right now, do you know if it is still available? Nevermind I will go look.

For some reason this is the day that it hit me. Thank you so much. This is exactly what I needed, exactly where I need my head to go on with my work. If you were here I would hug you!

Edit because I forgot :hug:

Edit again: Just ordered it, thanks
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:31 PM
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16. Yes, the book
is still available. I have seen it in book stores fairly recently. I think you will enjoy it. One of the most powerful sections is the introduction by John Mohawk. He describes the time that the Haudenosaunee prophet known as the Peace Maker came as being filled with great sorrow and terror. All of the social structures had broken down, and violence was destroying the society on all levels. There was violence between villages, extended families, and individuals. The most violent and greedy people had grabbed power, and society was sick.

The people who were the most dangerous, and doing the most terrible things, were quite a bit like those people in the Bush administration and the other similar sick people who are making our world a dangerous place. Their "power" isn't what we should have as a goal. We can't create peace through violence, nonviolence by violence, or light through darkness.

That doesn't mean that we should not have differences of opinion, or sincere debates. But we should avoid feeding the negative force.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:46 PM
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19. Again thanks.
I just ordered it. Now I must finish the one I have been nursing along for some time now but has been a really good book for me, Soul of a Citizen: living with conviction in a cynical time by Paul Rogat Loeb. It is taking me forever between trips to DU and working but has been well worth the time.

The people I have to deal with are not prone to discussion, civil rights it seems must not be fought against by civil people. I need to learn how to use the power of the good mind to keep my outlook where it needs to be.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:25 PM
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14. And you're POSITIVE there's no casino lurking in the agenda?
I am an Indian, but I am sure you can understand, can't you, that I worry about there being a casino lurking in any eastern Indian tribe's land claims?

After all, that's what is behind 99% of them.

I really, really, do hope this one is different.

Redstone
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:39 PM
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17. No.
No casino. There is a long, very public record that documents the Onondaga Nation's stance on casino gambling. The option to have a casino came and was absolutely rejected long ago, and was not a consideration in the land claims.

You are correct that there is often that connection. The Oneida from Wisconsin and Canada had won two US Supreme Court cases against the state of New York. Politicians and other interests helped "resolve" the issue by helping create the 32 Acres Oneida's bingo hall, then casino. The state had to violate their own laws to do so, and totally ignore the traditional government of the majority of Oneida people, as well as the Confederacy.

The Onondaga case involves approximately 100 toxic waste dumps, which are a threat to everyone's health. I'll look through some of my paperwork this next week, and provide more information.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:40 PM
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30. And the Dineh have also rejected casinos.
Good to hear there are some real Indians left; people who care about the Land more than they care about allying with the goombahs to make a quick buck.

May the Onondaga Nation do well. I will offer salt and tobacco to the Four Winds for them tonight.

Redstone
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:47 PM
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20. Interesting weavings we're part of. That was a beautiful tapestry.
I first met Dennis in '72 when he gave a talk at my High School in Connecticut during his Trail of Broken Treaties cross-country caravan. Around 1980, we again crossed paths when he came to visit Howard Zinn, who was my teacher at BU.

I've always thought the Fingerlakes region was a magic spot. I wouldn't mind going back up there sometime this summer.

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:51 PM
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21. Last Saturday, when the attacks on Truthout were at their loudest,
I donated.

Not for the first time. Not for the last.

:thumbsup:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:10 PM
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25. Good thinking.
It is a good way to make a quiet statement.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:25 PM
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26. Phenomenologically speaking,
it was better for the ecology of the mind than some of the other responses that occurred to me.

;)
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 05:23 PM
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47. Great post, wonderful advice, and I shall follow your lead.
Thank you, H2O Man, for all of your positive efforts.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:54 PM
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22. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this
thread...I needed to hear all of your words. Looking forward to reading Richard Rose.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 08:55 PM
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23. Concerning the Onondaga tribe....I wish them all the best
in their efforts to force the government to clean the site you mentioned. They will need all the luck they can get. As I'm sure you are aware, the Bush regime has all but abandoned the EPA, underfunding it so badly that literally thousands of such sites and brown zones will remain toxic, left for an administration that takes such matters seriously. Again, I wish the tribe all the best.

Concerning Truthout, I am sick of the snipefest going on around here. It is clear that the Leopold story was a stretch, and that Truthout will suffer some for it. It is too bad. Truthout only proves that it is not infallible, and that even good journalistic resources can have feet of clay. But there seem to be several people around here with an ax to grind. I don't really know why, but there are those who cannot wait to pounce on someone's opinion. I thought this was a discussion forum. So, let's discuss. If people have a difference of opinion on an issue, then let's talk like reasoned men and women.

I have yet to do this, but if this sniping from the bushes continues, then I am about to put several people on "ignore." They are beginning to ruin the pleasure I get from this site.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:08 PM
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24. I agree
that there are some people that are best ignored. There are people who I disagree with on many issues, but who are good friends. It's possible to disagree and get along. But there are other people who, although I might agree with on more issues, I am not interested in talking to.
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OxQQme Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:40 PM
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29. Just WOW !
This has got to be one of the finer threads.
Here are some words from an unknown author (but I think it's Chopra):
Healing and redemption of the planet and all those who dwell here has been preordained for quite some time now. Yet, oh what a purge we've had to endure over most recent years.

However, guidance emphatically suggests if more true souls ("you will know them by their humor" ), participate actively in the mendings the more easier the transition will be from where we are now to where we will be.

Participation in mendings requires, at present, and for a while, only eight tricks and preciously few onerous constraints for true souls:

Weapons of Mass Reconstruction & Amelioration:

-living creatively. "with mercy for all and malice towards none."
-visualizing the planet bathed in a regal violet light at least once
daily
("Purple rain, purple""reign". . .: )
-inspiring as many smiles as is possible in each and every day by cracking as many uplifting
jokes as often as is possible (as opposed to those that are mean spirited. ..see a certain
"fearful leader"'s so-called sense of humor for reference) you see, best humor is never intended
to be expense of others though. sometimes and more funnily seems to be at expense of self
Is always perfectly fine to goof on ironies of life as well.
-and figuring eight (very simple technique explained below*)when you sense imbalances, and/or once daily for just a minute or two
-be kind to and honor your true self not just the mask of little self and don't be at all spooked
by or react to scary masks of others who are not quite aware as yet.
-consider cultivating more patience in perpetuity whilst adjusting and responding swiftly to all peripeteia
-recognize one's own genuine auric field to be both selectively permeable and fully operational
-recognize also and honor inherent sacred nature of sexuality in all (and really consider avoiding porn like the plague) maybe perhaps make more love instead, that is, if someone both willing and suitable is within reasonable proximity or if a teleportation device is handy

*A very long time ago, guidance taught me to raise my hands over my head and envision my spiritual source. In a similar manner, I have also drawn down specific planetary and solar and lunar energies at various times, as well. I visualize energy descending through my left arm and crossing over to the right side of my body between the nape of my neck (where central nervous system wiring switches over from one side to the other) and my heart chakra. Then the energy goes down through my right right side and through my leg down to the center of the earth where it merges miraculously with Gaia (no fire or brimstone is there whatsoever),, and then loops back up returning to earth's surface then travels up my left leg up the left side of my body crossing over to right side. Again it passes between my heart chakra, and the nape of my neck, and then goes out my right arm returning to my spiritual source. Over time and with a modicum of practice it scarcely takes a nanosecond to enact but has greater effect if sustained for a moment or two.

It's a figure 8. Energetically it balances higher and lower energies. It can be useful for many who feel disconnected, stressed, or concerned about the apparent extreme imbalances between potential and form, of which Gaia appears to be processing and releasing now at an unprecedented rate. Whenever in doubt, maybe go figure 8 wherever you may be.

In my heart and soul, I know that if enough true souls practice this, when spirit moves them to do so, many of the the severe earth changes and extreme weather conditions, and their awful, and most harrowing repercussions that have occurred, and are still expected and have been projected over the next few years will be mollified, and conditions of suffering and hardship on the planet will be ameliorated more expediently, and more gently than they would be otherwise if a plethora of true souls would not do so. It's as simple as that run on sentence suggests. : )

As we move forward in this still new millennium, many sweet souls have been been overwhelmed by the flood of ideas and distortions of regressively dualistic dimensions. Though the earth has purged , rage, and disingenuousness has largely prevailed in recent years. Many truths have been further repressed and distorted by talking heads paid handsomely to mostly masquerade as investigative "truth seekers."

The more souls that visualize the earth bathed in violet, the more quickly the lost souls behaving like misguided greedy lying hypocrites, who govern and pronounce through fear, and deny blatant deceit and avarice, will all lose their power, and be exposed, and ultimately brought to justice. Justice, by the way, is really only attained through rectification, redemptive action, and rarely through incarceration. Our penal system is utterly despicable, unfair, and is really quite broken. There are far more efficacious and humane ways of administering and procuring justice after all. Many governments are in need of a major overhaul, if you hadn't noticed, since they all too often are only serving the so called "who's who of the chosen few" and trample horrifically and uncaringly upon far too many true and gentle souls.

Oh and Duhhh. . . .another minor thing . . .does anyone really think the God and the father of the "Prince of Peace" would ever have inspired or condoned a war on mostly innocents or tortured them. Like. . .as if. . .? Such shadowy projections are so-o-o terribly antiquated. Or as one verrry succinct protester's sign read during a recent capital city peace march , . . . ."I can't believe we still have to protest this crap." Me neither. Well maybe try 8 tricks instead. There will be far fewer fearful security concerns if true souls do these I swear.

Consider releasing linear and logical constructs of how our collective reality can possibly shift based on old models that are now entirely dysfunctional (see totally unreliable insecure voting technology for reference and psssssst. . .by the way, guys with PHD's in computer science and statistics, generally don't tend to morph into conspiracy theorists all too often, really, nor do the folks over at the GAO).

Ponder the transcendence of the restrictive orientation of "us versus them". It's more like, those who see bigger picture and those who do not, can not, or once saw and chose to forget or ignore. Perhaps, those ones need some gentle reminding. We true souls are all one after all, and there are far more who get it than those who do not. Isn't there is safety in numbers after all?

At least I can still count. Though it appears those in charge cannot or choose not to. Some "culture of life" that refuses to accurately count dead bodies or even votes I swear. It's just too truly sad, that all too many leaders have been corrupted, and lost sight of many truths and honorable concerns like the well being of their constituents instead of the enrichment of their often incompetent cronies and corporate contributors. It's as though they've never even examined recorded history or classical ethics (as in" do unto others. . . "yikes ).

Only choice to be made by ALL really is to live in universal love or live desperately in isolating fear. NOW, which would you prefer? This time, everyone gets to choose and make a real difference.

All humans want same basic things, to love and be loved, and to nourish and be nourished. There is far more that is shared by true souls together than there could ever be that which divides. And "pullease" be mindful of at least two things. . .that "good guys and bad guys are like. . .totally low dimensional. . .". . ."and that conflict rarely, if ever occurs in the absence of mutually shared culpability". Conflict only exists to raise consciousness of all of those who are involved. Conscious beings know that nothing is ever resolved through violence and never has been throughout all eternity. It only perpetuates conflict into later lifetimes or has done so from time immemorial. Perhaps if Earth takes a good long term violet bath generated by true souls, more souls of more fearful vibrations will clean up their acts, and we can transform more quickly.

This orientation symbolizes a true spirituality that is inclusive of all the races, nations, faiths (yes even the those lovable though sometimes cranky though also somewhat cuddly curmudgeons who are stubborn agnostics), and eradicates all stupid dualistic policies and punditries that are eternally and intractably divisive and thoroughly non progressive.

Consider involving oneself in Purple party for the short term anyway, (blue and red makes purple) by simply seeing planet bathed in a violet light of transformation and indeed consider both joining and ending the inhumane race. Maybe start human party instead. Indeed life can be a party where all participants have equal access to the blessings that be. The only thing stopping equitable distribution of oodles of resources, is the belief perpetrated and propagandized by those lost souls with agendas of outright selfishness and hubris (nasty combo) who have taken merciless advantage for far too long, by espousing the biggest lie of all, that there is not enough for ALL.

They arrogantly pretend they have won a not-so-human race which they have rigged from a long ago. I'm personally sick of all the "skull and bones" style piracy. How about you? They cannot and will not win anymore in this still new millennium. Dualism is no longer suited to the needs of great diversity and really never was so, and should be completely canned and deposited in toxic land fill in my humble opinion. Though we probably need to do more about those sites as well or so Gaia says. She's always saying stuff like that to me. : )

In new game, the challenge is that everyone wins for a while by taking turns. In the grander scheme of things, as long as there are any losers, no one ever truly wins for verrry long in grander scheme.

Get this. . .the most honorable thing we can ALL do is leave this planet in better shape for our kids than the circumstances we incarnated into. Collectively we have been failing in this department of late, so maybe consider, doing eight tricks instead, and it is truly time for purple baths for all of us. This time I'll be the first one in. I'm doing an astral cannonball into a purple pool as I am somewhat tired of the "rotten egg scenario." : ) So SPLASH !!!

Oh and by the way, the purple party hereby officially declares a constitutional crisis in america. A convention is more than likely soon to follow. Proceed as you feel is truly appropriate.

Live in peace and joy and make it so.

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:27 PM
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27. Well said my friend, well said
Disinformation, misdirection, redirection and other propaganda tactics that I have seen lately, not only on this site, or that story but in general.
This is the desperation of regime that has been found out, and now they will be laying it on thick.

Attacking the web with law and attacking any means of open communication. Those are not just in a personal view but obvious in the news and information that has transgressed since this regime started. We know the agencies that have been compromised by the removal of career american public servants.

The amount of money or greed trying to hold up this deck of cards is either a super glue or water soluble and I go for the later, for the water of truth will always erode the mountains of lies down even into the depths of this regime's future Grand Canyon.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:51 PM
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31. "...the water of truth will always erode the mountains of lies..."
Very well said.


The Tao Te Ching is a book I love (along with the I Ching), and verse Forty Three offers this:



The softest thing in the universe
Overcomes the hardest thing in the universe.
That without substance can enter where there is no room.
Hence I know the value of non-action.

Teaching without words and work without doing
Are understood by very few.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:57 PM
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32. Prevailing Wind ....
Because he is no competitor,
no one in the world
can compete with him.

The saying of the men of old
Is not vain:
"The crooked shall be made straight --"
To be perfect, return to it.

--from Poem 22; Lao Tzu; The Way of Life
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:15 PM
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34. I wouldn't mind doing another American Native Sweat if I could take this
nation with me to review their souls again
before the spirits of their American ancestors.
But alas, they will, in time, see what is in the smoke and shadows of their connection.



Your writings remind me why I am proud to be an American.:) :hi: :grouphug: :pals:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 09:38 PM
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28. A gentle reminder

And a "thank you" for it.

As Chief Jacob Thomas said (quoted by Terry Boyle in Teachings from the Longhouse):

"Many people today are so narrow-minded and do not know what it means to have a good mind. This is why we are so divided today and lack unity. Our poeple are educated to be self-sufficient, but this takes away from a good mind. They are looking out for themselves, rather than the nation."



I've stayed out of most of the arguments of late, but I have been guilty of negativity so I'll ponder Jake's words and yours, H2O Man :)


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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:08 PM
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33. Oh My
Jah love, Jah love
protect us...."
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:50 PM
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37. I & I knows jah - jah nuh dead - jah nuh dead
They tried to fool the black population
By telling us jah jah dead
Say they tried to fool the black population
By telling us jah jah dead..
I & I knows jah - jah nuh dead - jah nuh dead

Jah nuh dead

Jah nuh dead

Jah nuh dead

Jah nuh dead

Oooh nooo - jah nuh dead

My knowledge increase
My memory reflect
Marcus Garvey did say

A rumour rumour rumour rumour rumour
Aah Marcus say

Jah nuh dead
Jah nuh dead
Jah nuh dead
Jah nuh dead
Jah nuh dead
Oooh nooo - jah nuh dead

It was I-man who say
I it's Green and gold, it's the rainbow

The lion the lion decrowned the king
The lion the lion decrowned the king
Inna in adis abeba - aaafrica

Jah nuh dead
Jah nuh dead
Jah nuh dead
Jah nuh dead
Jah nuh dead
Oooh nooo - jah nuh dead

Meet me at the bank of the beautiful river
When your journey has end
I & I will discuss about this matter
Jah nuh dead, jah nuh dead, jah nuh dead
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:11 AM
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39. Thank you
The problem of Forum Polarity (duality in action) is one that has bothered me for years. When and if and how to respond when someone is being treated unfairly, and all the rest of it. There is an old zen saying that the highest form of love is inaction. When a response is given, no matter how good the intent, the laws of duality and karma kick in and you/me/us are then contributing to it. I am still not absolutly certain where to draw the line on this but I thank you for creating this thread. It's a good reminder that if we are not careful, we become that which we despise.

It's always refreshing to read your posts, H2o.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 05:37 AM
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40. That reminds me
of one of Gandhi's sayings: "Silence is the true language of cosmic adoration."
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 07:45 AM
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42. thanks - helps to refocus
Your posts like this are timely and much appreciated.

'You just can't live that negative way,..
Make way for the Positive Day'

I'm picking up, H, and a donation to Truthout.

Lets get past the bickering and bruised egos,
there's a better world to work towards, together.





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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:17 PM
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43. Brilliant, as usual H2O Man
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:29 PM
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44. sometimes it is the most rascally character that will put
themselves on the line for you. It is hard to tell. Some people can't help having big opinions, sometimes being right or just completely wrong. It is good to read stuffy by people with experience even if they are fools sometimes.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:52 PM
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45. I needed to read this thread. Thank You for
drawing us to a better way.
LS
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:42 PM
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46. Interesting. thanks
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 07:17 PM
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48. Thank you.
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