Just how liberal are we?

[carolinalady]

I have to say, reading the threads in this forum the last 24 hours, I am seriously wondering just how liberal DU really is. Are we open to new ideas? Are we tolerant of change? Do we just like to be the "anti" party?

Just as a refresher for myself, I looked up the definition of the word Liberal:

lib·er·al (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj.
1.
a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
2.
a. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.
b. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.
3. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.
4. Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.
5.
a. Archaic Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman.
b. Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious.
n.
1. A person with liberal ideas or opinions.
2. Liberal A member of a Liberal political party.

Every time the admins try to change something on this board, the bitching and moaning is intense. I have to wonder then, if people are going to get so fussed up about the small stuff, how sincere are they about the big stuff? What is going to happen if and when we do take control of the government? Will this community die because we no longer have something to complain about?

We love to criticize the right for what we perceive as their intolerance to certain lifestyles and beliefs, yet I am seeing the same types of attitudes toward any changes made on DU. I also see it when someone professes certain beliefs that may mirror the Right.

I think we need to be an accepting party. That means accepting new ideas and allowing people to hold fast to their own beliefs even if they are pro-life, anti-gay marriage of pro-gun. I believe our mission to be not to convince others that their way is wrong, but rather that their way is their choice and it is ok, but our way is ok too. Disarm the opposition and do not give them reason to fear us.

But first, I think we need to clean our own house. Before being so quick to criticize something that is new, perhaps a reminder that we are a tolerant people and we make our own choices would be in order.

And as far as the new ad experiment goes, if you don't like them, don't pay attention to them.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. Because Some Can Only Bitch. It Is A Deep Psychological Need For Attention

that their low self esteem and lack of confidence fools them into thinking can only be accomplished with whining, in my humble opinion.

And I mean the persistent violators, not just limited to the ad issue, which I agree with you is the least I can do for DU.

[AuntPatsy]

2. There are fanitical like minds in every corner, Liberal means to me

excepting thier view points enough to at least listen for a time even if I don't always agree.

[Roon]

3. I'm a Liberal

but I'm sure as hell not a democrat....

[carolinalady]

4. LOL. Guess that says it all. :) n/t

[LincolnMcGrath]

5. The half dozen DLC staffers that post here think DU is FAR LEFT.

Now, it seems I am not liberal enough!

Oy Vey

:hi:

[SharonRB]

7. It's a big tent here

Some are far left, some in the middle, but we all have a lot in common despite our differences.

[SharonRB]

6. Well put and very timely

It needed to be said and you said it eloquently.

Recommended!

[iamjoy]

8. But That's What We Are

at least some of us. I tolerate people who are pro-life. I try to understand them. But I am pro-choice. So, we won't force you to have an abortion if you don't try to force us NOT to have one.

I understand some people think marriage is only between a man and a woman. Fine. They shouldn't marry some one of the same gender. I respect their marriage. Now if my male friend wants to marry the guy he loves, please respect that also (or ignore it).

I accept the lifestyle choice some people make to be a devout Christian and follow what they beleive is the word of God, the teachings of Jesus. Please respect that I do not believe the same way. This means if I had children, I would not want them to be forced to pray in public school according to *your* beliefs.

See, tolerant and accepting.

[spag68]

9. Liberal

I know I am a liberal, but on the immigration issue I wonder where some of the people here are coming from. Have we lost our heart entirely. Don't we understand that these immigrants are only the latest in a long line of underclass people to be used by the overlords to split us into parts that they can control. Think dagos polls hunkies jews blacks now mexicans.

[Berserker]

10. How Liberal are we?

So being Liberal means you except ads? WTF
Do you like to pay for cable TV and watch all those ads? I don't and if I had a way to delete them on my TV I would.

On a computer I can delete all the ads by using a different browser.
The question is not if I am Liberal enough to have ads shoved up my ass the question is why sit and use a piece of shit like IE?

Would you like to delete all the ads on TV by using a differ TV or do you want to be a Liberal and just get used to them?
Strange
Now I'm not a Liberal if I don't except ads.

[carolinalady]

11. Nope, not the intent of my OP- Tolerance was the point.

My personal belief is that a tolerant person does not get all fussed up about this small stuff. I have my moments of intolerance, but I am not proud of it. I am not saying anyone on here is or is not Liberal, just seems strange to me when people are so rigid about keeping things the same.

[Berserker]

13. I believe we should not be

so tolerant about corporate America and the wonderful ads we have to put up with. The radio the TV the internet, news papers, magazines on and on. If that is ok with you wonderful but it's not ok with me. Sorry but I am against corporate owned America. And I am a Liberal.

[carolinalady]

12. Hey everybody-on a side note I just brought up a liberal ad!

Check the top.

:headbang: