~~~Heads up! Chomsky on CSPAN2 at 7pm~~~

[Viva_La_Revolution]

On Saturday, May 27 at 7:00 pm and Monday, May 29 at 10:30 pm
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Failed States: The Abuse of Power and the Assault on Democracy
Noam Chomsky

From the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, Noam Chomsky talks to West Point cadets about just war theory and the invasion of Iraq. During the talk, Professor Chomsky criticizes the work of Michael Walzer, an influential proponent of just war theory and the author of the popular "Just and Unjust Wars." Following his remarks, Professor Chomsky takes questions from the cadets about international law and the Bush administration's foreign policy.

Noam Chomsky, a professor of linguistics and philosophy at MIT, is the author of numerous books on U.S. foreign policy, including "American Power and the New Mandarins," "Pirates and Emperors, Old and New: International Terrorism in the Real World," and "Hegemony or Survival." For more information on Prof. Chomsky and his work, visit www.zmag.org/Chomsky.



This weekend's BookTV Schedule thread - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1294803#1294978

[Drum]

1. This sounds good!

Thanks for the tip

[LouisianaLiberal]

2. Thanks.

Will be watching.

[Kurovski]

3. K&R!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. 1 hour countdown kick! nt

[BlooInBloo]

5. If only Americans, as an aggregate, were smart enough to value Chomsky....

sigh.

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9. We don't get a chance too, unless we search him out ourselves...

When was the last time you saw him on US TV? (not counting today)

I NEVER have, but he's on TV in other countries all the time.

[The2ndWheel]

6. kick, nt

[Viva_La_Revolution]

7. On NOW

I wonder if he will temper his arguements for the cadets?.... naaaaaaaa! :)

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8. 3 main componants of "Just War"

Scholarly opinion (ripping Walzer for claiming Afghanistan and Iraq are just wars with out backing up his arguements of why)

missed the second one :(

International codifications

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10. He's so much easier to follow when he writes than when he speaks...

at least for me. I can go back and re-read when he starts to lose me.

I wish I'd thought to tape this. I know I'm not grasping it all. :(

[Viva_La_Revolution]

11. A Just War? Hardly May 20, 2006

By Noam Chomsky

Spurred by these times of invasions and evasions, discussion of "just war" has had a renaissance among scholars and even among policy-makers.

Concepts aside, actions in the real world all too often reinforce the maxim of Thucydides that "The strong do as they can, while the weak suffer what they must" — which is not only indisputably unjust, but at the present stage of human civilisation, a literal threat to the survival of the species.

In his highly praised reflections on just war, Michael Walzer describes the invasion of Afghanistan as "a triumph of just war theory," standing alongside Kosovo as a "just war." Unfortunately, in these two cases, as throughout, his arguments rely crucially on premises like "seems to me entirely justified," or "I believe" or "no doubt."

Facts are ignored, even the most obvious ones. Consider Afghanistan. As the bombing began in October 2001, President Bush warned Afghans that it would continue until they handed over people that the US suspected of terrorism.

http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2006-05/20chomsky.cfm

[otherlander]

15. Wow...that's very interesting. I have to start reading

his books. Is this going to be rerun at some point?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

12. Interesting tone from the students during Q&A...

They sure don't like him saying that "just war" is a failed theory.

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13. Links to 193 articles...

scroll down to the yellow...

http://www.zmag.org/search/index.cfm?action=database

[liberaliraqvet26]

14. I caught the tail end, is this going to be on again???

I really want to watch it is there an online link??

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. repeats Monday, at 10:30 pm

There won't be an online link until CSPAN plays it 3 times (usually).

[liberaliraqvet26]

17. thanks...

how was he recieved at West Point?? i was surprised to see him speaking there.

[Terran1212]

18. He was speaking at WEST POINT?

Whoa, I knew Noam Chomsky was awesome but he is apparently gutsy as well.

[Terran1212]

19. News Article on the speech

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060421/NEWS03/604210331/1024/NEWS08

Excerpt:

At the end of his presentation, the military academy's class of 2008 presented Chomsky with a framed picture of a part of the campus.

Lt. Col. Casey Neff, a staff member for the academy's commandant's office, said he too enjoyed Chomsky's lecture.

Neff said Chomsky was at West Point to state a position and provoke debate.

The free speech of Chomsky and others, he said, "is one of the things we're here to defend."



: )

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20. Thanks for the link! nt

[Kurovski]

21. HEADS UP! Repeat at 10:30 EST.(nt)

[LiberalUprising]

22. KICK

for Monday eve crowd

[PuraVidaDreamin]

23. Excellent Kick! Thank you kindly!

I'll be hanging out w/ Milan Rae a week from tomorrow-
wrote "Chomsky's Politics" Got him a book signing gig.
He and Chomsky will be in Woods Hole Tuesday night!

Will be sure not to miss tonight!

[LiberalUprising]

26. Hey PuraVida

Glad to. I just got an audio copy of Failed States, looking forward to listening after I finish Zinn's A People's History of the US.

Read your threads here and there, glad to see you are still in the thick of things and mixing it up

Give 'em hell and be sure to fill us in on the book signing

Did ya make it back down to CC for Easter?

[ThomWV]

24. I Saw It, Saturday Night I Think It Was

the man is simply brilliant.

[WiseButAngrySara]

25. KNR for tonight and thanks! ....n/t

[Kurovski]

27. ON NOW!

NOW!:-)