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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:47 PM
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Poll question: Is Bush Planning to do a Kosovo (Air-War) on Iran?

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:48 PM
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1. For the last time, no. It would cause a US depression because of oil
Bush isn't going to destroy the US economy in an election year.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:49 PM
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2. "Bush isn't going to destroy the US economy in an election year."
he's been doing that for past 5 years, hello...

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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:54 PM
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4. Bush and his clan are nuts
They could careless if we have to pay 5$ a gallon. The big oil will profit on this. Hey we go in take Iraq's oil go in and take Iran's oil.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:29 PM
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16. They will care if $5 gas leads to Democratic majorities.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:55 PM
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6. Um, no. US economy is still moderately decent.
1979-type oil shock = insta depression. Which is exactly what happens if you attack Iran because Iran alone causes a global oil shortage, nevermind disruption they can cause in the rest of the Persian Gulf.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:00 PM
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9. if you are rich, maybe
but brand america is taking an ass kicking and the avg joe is trying to figure out where they are going to get the money to pay their huge energy increases not to mention the rest of their bills and food.

i can make the same argument you are making about iran in regards to iraq and it didn't work then why will it work now?

in case you haven't noticed these folks are fucking crazy and their plan calls for military intervention in the ME to control all the oil before PEAK OIL is undeniable.

i don't see Iran turning away and there is no way the neoCONs will.


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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:28 PM
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15. Compared to what would happen in a true oil crisis, this is downright
peachy. This economy is nothing like the '80-'82 or '73-'75 periods when the economy was crushed by oil shocks among other things. If we went after Iran militarily, the economy would be MUCH worse than it is right now. What you have now is a relatively moderate pace of errosion of middle class purchasing power through rising energy and health costs. In an oil shock caused by the Iraq war, we would have double digit inflation across the board as transportation costs would more than double in a matter of weeks and more beyond that and a recession that would bring about major unemployment.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:57 PM
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7. Why not?
They own the damn evoting machines. Nothing he does will matter and he knows it. Why do you think they're being so damn arrogant? and after Alito gets in..IF he gets in, we won't have elections.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:25 PM
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14. The economic crisis would be so bad that it would have to be VERY
substantial fraud. Besides, I don't believe in the election fraud theory for 2004.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:05 PM
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13. The depression is probably gonna happen anyway
when Iran starts trading oil in euros as of March. Buh-bye, strong dollar.

We invaded Iraq soon after they threatened to do that very thing.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:31 PM
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17. A dollar crisis by itself does not trigger a recession even.
Our domestic exporters in fact gain an advantage and it would actually work to correct our huge trade deficit. Sure, it causes some extent of import inflation, but what we have actually seen is that import prices don't necessarily rise, but foreign companies simply take a profit margin hit when they sell here.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:07 PM
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18. How do you think Bushco feels about the Iranian oil bourse?
I'm curious, because you do seem to know what you're talking about.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:03 PM
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19. They probably don't like the idea of Iran asserting more power in
the energy markets. I'm not particularly sure how they feel about it to be quite honest.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:54 PM
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3. Other: I think we may start by facilitating Israel in an airstrike
Where it will go from there, I can only have nightmares about...

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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:54 PM
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5. Not sure...but an Israel under Netanyahu would DEFINATELY kick it
Off with Iran...that might be the way actually. Israel does strategic bombing in Iran...and then that gives Junior his excuse to wade in under the premise of "protecting Israel".

Iran is radically different to Kosovo, the size of Iran for a start and the terrain in Iran. Iran also has a functioning Air Force and a functioning Navy...they also have Russia and China on their side.

I hope that Israel don't do anything because Iran is going to be a lot tougher than they think...and of course if Israel did do something then it would result in a full-on Middle Eastern war...and that would be totally catastrophic.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:00 PM
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8. Other -- maybe.
I sure as hell hope not! I think for sure he's testing the waters for such a strike, but I don't know how he thinks the reception will be good considering that the majority of the country is now against the Iraq War.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:27 PM
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10. NO.
Bush and his Crime Brothers are the ultimate in Cliff-Hangers, suspenseful shows that leave everyone wondering.

They did the exact same thing last year. Remember? Almost to the day last January, they started beating the War Drums.

And nothing came of it.

They WANT to bomb Iran, but they know they can't. So they settle for 2nd best: scare everybody, do saber-rattling, make everybody BELIEVE you will bomb.

It serves a good purpose: keep everybody scared, which is a good way for thugs to rule. Scare the crap out of Iran. See what happens. Maybe they will fold, like Iraq. Then it will be ours for the picking.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 02:11 PM
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11. But all the War Drums are doing is encouraging Iran to
develop nukes. Wouldn't you want nukes if Israel and the US were both making these kind of veiled threats?

I don't know. I am pretty sure something will happen. The drums were beating about Iraq for over a year before the invasion too.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 03:03 PM
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12. Iraq didn't work, so he wants to do it peacefully
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