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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:30 PM
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To all DU vets this Memorial Day weekend
I never joined the service due to my father telling me over and over that I would not do well in any branch. My father was a Marine and served for 25 years before he retired and he felt it was best if I didn't sign up because I had a real big problem with authority back then and he felt that I wouldn't last if I did decide to join up. Also, in those days they didn't accept just anyone and when I was graduating from high school all my buddies were getting approached and sent mailings to sign up, but I only got one.

Anyway, growing up as a son of a Marine I had nothing more than respect for the men and woman members of the service and being fairly arrogant, the only people who humbled me were members of the military.

I remember when I was about 5 we taped a reel to reel tape that was being sent to my uncle who was in Viet Nam and I remember thinking that it just wasn't right for people to be fighting with guns and trying to kill each other and even as a child it hurt me to think of people killing each other for something that I didn't understand and while watching body counts at dinner on the television, I knew these people weren't ever coming home.

As I sit here now in my 40s I still feel the way I did as a child. My heart breaks each time I see reports of people that aren't coming home ever again. In Cleveland we had a Marine unit that lost 20 something of their members and I wept for the families and friends that will never see them again. Incidentally, that was my father's old unit and he was so saddened by the loss of life that he felt were members of his family. A Marine is a Marine forever they say.

As this Memorial day approaches I think of all the servicemen and women, past and present, who either by their own decision or by the decision of the government has given their blood, sweat and tears in one of the military branches, I think about what I have done with my life and no matter what, it will never live up to what you have done.

I am deeply humbled by you all and I want to thank you all for doing something that I didn't have the balls to do.

For all you that might know me from DU, you might remember that I have used Alfred E. Newman as my avatar, but today I got to do some thinking. I wrote a few posts and felt like an idiot writing about things I feel deeply about and having that avatar by my name. I tried to come up with a new avatar and just couldn't do it. I eventually decided to go with all black. I will keep that as my avatar until everyone that is serving in this illegal war in Iraq and the members of the service in Afghanistan come home.

It is my tribute to you DU members who have served and also as a nod to Johnny Cash for his fantastic song "The Man In Black" I hope this isn't a terrible thread to post here on DU, I just really have a hell of a lot of respect for all you DU members that have done what I could never have done.

Thank you.

Man In Black by Johnny Cash


Well, you wonder why I always dress in black,
Why you never see bright colors on my back,
And why does my appearance seem to have a somber tone.
Well, there's a reason for the things that I have on.

I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down,
Livin' in the hopeless, hungry side of town,
I wear it for the prisoner who has long paid for his crime,
But is there because he's a victim of the times.

I wear the black for those who never read,
Or listened to the words that Jesus said,
About the road to happiness through love and charity,
Why, you'd think He's talking straight to you and me.

Well, we're doin' mighty fine, I do suppose,
In our streak of lightnin' cars and fancy clothes,
But just so we're reminded of the ones who are held back,
Up front there ought 'a be a Man In Black.

I wear it for the sick and lonely old,
For the reckless ones whose bad trip left them cold,
I wear the black in mournin' for the lives that could have been,
Each week we lose a hundred fine young men.

And, I wear it for the thousands who have died,
Believen' that the Lord was on their side,
I wear it for another hundred thousand who have died,
Believen' that we all were on their side.

Well, there's things that never will be right I know,
And things need changin' everywhere you go,
But 'til we start to make a move to make a few things right,
You'll never see me wear a suit of white.

Ah, I'd love to wear a rainbow every day,
And tell the world that everything's OK,
But I'll try to carry off a little darkness on my back,
'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:33 PM
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1. Thanks for the thought.
A salute to you and a slow salute to my comrades who lie silent in graves marked, unmarked, and lost forever.

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:33 PM
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2. way beautiful, Johnnie
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:34 PM
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3. Quite touching. Thank you.
Redstone
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:40 PM
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6. I never knew you served Redstone
Until I read it in that thread. Part of this was inspired by you and I have gained even more respect for you than I had because of how humbled you are by not ever mentioning it before.
Take care sir.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:07 PM
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12. Confession: Don't be so quick with your praise, please.
I had a medical deferment from the draft, but ended up working for a company under contract to the Air Force. (Let's not use that "M" word, OK?) But combat it was, in Quang Tri City (briefly) and in An Loc, and the wounds that I received and inflicted, and the deaths that I saw and caused, were just as real for the $1500 per month I was working for as they were for the small wages that the ARVNs I worked with.

They fought like tigers. I fought beside them. For that one thing, I feel I have done well.

Redstone
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:14 PM
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15. You've done well
:thumbsup:

And anyway, anyone who played all those cool instruments as you did is always cool in my book.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:20 PM
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17. You've made me feel better, and I won't forget it.
Off to attempt some sleep now. If I can manage it, the credit goes to you.

Thank you again.

Redstone
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:23 PM
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18. You're a good man Redstone
I have never questioned that. Sleep well.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:35 PM
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4. Johnnie...
What a beautiful well written post.

Thank you for your service.

The tears are falling over this post.

Thank you... just THANK YOU.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:39 PM
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5. Thank you, johnnie
Very well said.

BTW, there was a show on A&E last night about Ohio's Lima Company, and the tremendous losses they sustained in Iraq. They will probably run it again. Well worth the two hours it runs.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:43 PM
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7. Yeah, that was them
They have a place up here in Cleveland. I remember going to see them off on the first Desert Storm. It was so sad to see those kids faces as they were loading into their buses.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:58 PM
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8. Kicking this beautifully said
I can't help but to think of a distant relative of my grandma who was a Marine and never returned home. He died a hero though for a good cause and there isn't a day that I don't think of him. A man I never knew but a man who loved this country and what she stands for. That's what Memorial Day is all about remembering those who fell before us. Thanks for posting this. Hope all those guys in that local unit of yours come home safe and live to be old and are able to tell future generations about what it means to serve this country.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:03 PM
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10. Thanks Kleeb
Actually, I have a great cousin that was shot down over France in WWII and never found. It's strange to think he will always be in his 20s in our minds.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:05 PM
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11. Man that's so sad
Never found him. They did find my relative but the real tragedy was that he was killed by friendly fire, it was by a destroyer off the shore. I think that's the biggest tregedy of war when they can't find the guys that they know for a fact died. Thanks again for the post, tommorow is a day that we should remember. It's so surreal knowing that people your age are over there. I may not agree with the war but I feel the same way as you do, they're oding what we could never do.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:02 PM
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9. K & R
Happy Memorial Day, & thank you for such a thoughtful, respectful post. I want to join you in paying respect to all the veterans at DU, & all the soldiers still risking their lives in Iraq & Afganistan.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:09 PM
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13. My identifying #s were among the stolen n/t
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:15 PM
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16. That sucks
But thanks for your service and I hope that whole thing is resolved very soon.
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:14 PM
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14. Very touching, Johnnie
And respect to all DU members who served.


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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 10:42 PM
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19. Thank you n/t
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 11:52 PM
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20. To all who've sacrificed, thank you.
To all who've supported them, loved them, prayed for them, cried for them, knitted for them, and done anything and everything for them, thank you.

Our nation is a strong yet sleeping giant. Our military is shouldering more of the burden than they should, especially their families. This Memorial Day, let's not forget the military or their loved ones in our need to relax and enjoy a day off.

May they all come home safe and sound.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 03:48 AM
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21. Johnnie, you have done something that very few people have ever
been able to do...leave me speechless.

I am a vet and I thank you for your post.

The Johnny Cash lyrics brought tears to my eyes. Very powerful words.

Thank you.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 01:34 PM
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22. Thank you driver8
I agree, those lyrics are very powerful.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 03:53 PM
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23. Kick for the Monday DU vets
One more time to express my feelings to you DU vets.
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dw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:40 PM
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24. I served but...
Memorial Day has never been about the likes of me. I came home intact. There's nothing that anyone needs to memorialize in that.

For me, each Memorial Day has afforded me time for quietly contemplating the supreme sacrifice of all the kids who died horrible deaths, in unspeakable pain and fear, away from everyone and everything that they knew and loved. Every one of those deaths was untimely and unfair.

I was a citizen soldier forty years ago, and until I imagine myself back there it's hard to get my mind around how young we were. Just kids in our late teens and early twenties. Cannon fodder for the likes of McNamara and Rumsfeld. And thus 'twas ever so.

War is hell. Literally, hell. And that's what I remind myself each year on this last Monday in May.
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