I'm having a harder time each day

[samplegirl]

thinking how easy Clinton was impeached and yet our country
with such enormous corruption and more each day that we
even have to witness Bush's face on television yet another
day week or month.

Another very sad memorial day indeed.

[Scoody Boo]

1. Clinton had charges brought forward on him...

* has yet to be charged with anything. Unpopularity, cries of "He lied" on the internet are not impeachable offenses. Until someone steps up and brings any charges forward, he will not be impeached. No matter how much the public clamors for it.

My personal view on it? Not going to happen now that the immigration issue blew up in Congress' face and they will spend the next two years scrambling for cover on that.

[benburch]

2. Charges?

The only "Charge" ever brought on Clinton was the articles of impeachment.

[Sparkly]

3. He was charged with sexual harrassment. nt

[benburch]

4. Nope.

He wasn't charged.

[Sparkly]

5. Okay, he was sued.

[benburch]

6. True.

So has Bush been sued.

The suit in Clinton's case was not material to the articles of impeachment.

[Sparkly]

7. I know, but all they needed was to get him under oath.

And then press it with the grand jury.

I would LOVE to see Chimpy under oath.

[benburch]

9. They really had nothing that would have stood a GJ against Clinton.

70 million dollars were spent by a special prosecutor who could find nothing whatsoever to charge either of the Clinton's with.

Sadly, Bill Clinton signed the law that ended that sort of Special Prosecutor, or we'd have one now on the Chimp's ass.

[Scoody Boo]

11. Clinton was charged with obstruction of justice and perjury...

that is what he was impeached for. There WERE charges. Unpopularity is not something a President can be impeached for.

[benburch]

13. No, he was not charged EXCEPT in the articles.

There were no charges that would have been indictable by a grand jury, or convictable by a court. (And I have the opinion of several prosecutors on that, too.)

Clinton *was* impeached for unpopularity.

The President you Love So Well already has committed several crimes and I mean to see him indicted, tried, and sentenced for them.

I think you must have taken a wrong turn en-route to somewhere else, perhaps http://www.freerepublic.com is where you meant to be.

Well, that covers a lot of ground.

Say! You cover a lot of ground yourself. You'd better beat it.

I hear they're gonna tear you down and put up an office building where you're standing.

You can leave in a taxi. If you can't get a taxi, you can leave in a huff. If that's too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff.

You know, you haven't stopped talking since I came here. You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle.

[kittenpants]

15. Are you saying that unpopularity is Bush's only 'sin'

or just that he won't be charged with anything because the House and Senate are currently Republican?

[benburch]

16. That is *just* what he is saying.

He is defending Bush.

[Scoody Boo]

19. I am not defending Bush at all...

I am just realistically looking at whether in my view he will be impeached or not. I do not think he will and Congress will use the debacle brought on by immigration to ignore it.

Have impeachable offenses occurred? Yes, they have. Will they be acted upon? Probably not.

That is MY own view on whether impeachment will happen or not. I do not think that Democrats have the same balls to act on impeachment that they do to ask us for donations and votes.

[deFaultLine]

8. I'm with ya

I'm feeling somewhat burned out I guess. The level of apathy I feel sometimes is distressing and unfortunately; this may be my saddest Memorial Day ever.

I feel I live in a hostile, uncaring country and I'm a white guy. I'm one of the ones that's supposed to be having it easy. I can't imagine what it's like for some people.

There's only one reason that this country is so screwed up and we are in a pointless war. His initials are GWB.

I didn't think anyone could screw Iraq up more than Saddam could, but unhappily I was wrong.

Talk about crimes against humanity, I hope history compares him to Nero as this doofus has absolutely no scruples about what he is doing.

[Marr]

10. Impeachment is the only way to restore any sense of legitimacy to our

government, I'm afraid. They've destroyed the most basic idea that that our system rests upon; respect for the law. People simply have no faith that their government is functional, that their vote counts, that the law has meaning, etc.

These guys have made an already cynical populace alot more so, and that is not good. For our system to function, the people must participate- and they will not if they feel it doesn't matter.

If we're going to restore any degree of faith in the legitimacy of law, we have to punish the people who have made a point of flaunting it. Starting with Bush.

[raccoon]

12. As long as Republicans control Congress, he never will be

impeached.

It was Nixon's misfortune that he had to deal with a Democratic Congress. Otherwise, I betcha he'd have served out his second term.

[Guy Fawkes]

14. sex scandals kill politicians.

nothing else matters to the American people. Sex sells, sex intrigues, sex angers.

[kentuck]

17. Have all options been expended?

We have marched, protested, called, written letters and done everything conscionably possible to stop the fall of our nation. Not just in war, but in the assault upon our freedoms and rights and programs we have fought for to make America a better place. Yet, we seem to have made no impact whatsoever, or very little. What else can we do? Do we wait until after November elections?

It is obvious to many that we have lost our so-called "free press". They have become active arms and spokesmen for the corporate elite that now seem to control everything in this country. Are we simply deceiving ourselves to think we are going to make change in the "traditonal" ways? Just asking?

[rustydog]

18. A die hard Republican/conservative who harassed me for

months over my "GW you're fired" and BU**
SH**
Bumper stickers said he is sick of this and realized he is more Libertarian than conservative or Republican....

Funny. I actually am getting more hopeful.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

20. Yeah, but how's he going to VOTE in 06 and 08, if at all...