Lou Dobbs: Liberal Bias in Media Prevented Criticism of Colbert.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605030008

Lou Dobbs has been getting a lot of support. Great, it's American to stand for what you believe. But why does Dobbs get a free pass? He HAS said many things that are questionable of downright wrong about a variety of subjects. Here's just some of them:

Media Matters: Lou Dobbs Lineup Overwhelmingly Conservative

http://mediamatters.org/items/200603270002

Media Matters: "Dobbs's immigration reporting marked by misinformation, extreme rhetoric, attacks on Mexican president, and data from organization linked to white supremacists"

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605240011

Media Matters: Dobbs accepts claim Dems are to blame for immigration felony provision

http://mediamatters.org/items/200604240011

Media Matters: Dobbs falsely claims Colorodo school banned only American Flags

http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=Lou+Dobbs

Media Matters; Dobbs falsely claims to have more open boarder supporters than detractors

http://mediamatters.org/items/200604050004

Media Matters: Dobbs "Happy Holidays excludes everyone who celebrates Christmas"

http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?person=Lou%20Dobbs&mm_audio=0&mm_video=0&sort=default&offset=15

And here he is cited by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting for lying about a NSA study:


http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1162


And there's more too, just check out those sites.


So why the free pass? Why is he all of a sudden the saviour of the democrats?

[JI7]

1. just saw

a thread saying Dobbs represents "core Democratic values". WTF ??????????

[BlooInBloo]

4. My guess: it was an anti-immigrant thread.... /eom

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. LOL I think I just

added that DUer to my ignore list.

Yep, that's a WTF alright!

[RagingInMiami]

24. Not my core democratic values

Far from it.

[depakid]

2. He's just another lying CNN anchor- always has been

and if people want to think otherwise- well, there are suckers born every minute.

[choie]

35. I am rather suprised that Randi Rhodes

has fallen for his shit. Since being a guest on his show, she thinks he's a fair guy who speaks the truth. Now, I know he's said some anti-Bush things, but his obsession with immigration really crosses the line into xenophobia. As Mike Malloy said some night last week, anybody who thinks that Dobbs cares about the average american worker is nuts. I don't understand how Randi has been charmed by Dobbs and how she could think he's a great american voice speaking out for the "little guy".

[depakid]

37. Randi want to further her career

and get more time televesion time.

She may also think she can encourage him to provide more accurate coverage- which ain't gonna happen at CNN, IMO.

[goclark]

47. I love Randi but if she can look the other way

on her core values ~ I'm in a different mind set.


That would be such a shame.

[Coexist]

58. Okay - I was going to stay out of this thread, but what the heck:

Most DUers who agree with Lou Dobbs on a few issues, preface their posts with a "I do not always see eye to eye with the man, but..."

I am not surprised Randi Rhodes was on his show. He frequently has guests that disagree with him on various issues. And they are almost always treated with respect. He lets them speak their piece.

While disagreeing with some of what he has to say, Dobbs has been less than kind to Bush, and I am not going to hate him because we are not on the same page about everything. Hell, if that were the case, there are many DUers I would have to hate - and I don't want to have to do that!

Dobbs is a tad obsessed with the issue of immigration, yes.

[KoKo]

3. He's the only one with a one hour show who claims to "speak for the

people...middle class." So, he sucks folks in because he's talking about issues that folks care about.

He sucked alot of folks in with the Dubai Ports deal yet he hasn't followed through as to what's really happening with that. He dropped the ball when the same Dubai company is reported to now be running 7 of our Military manufacturing plants in the US (the British Company that owned the plants was the same one whom Dubai Ports bought out). Folks in Georgia don't know that Dubai ports owns their five companies making our military parts...because Dobbs didn't see fit to pursue it....

:shrug:

[RagingInMiami]

25. It just proves once again

That we are a nation of ignorant idiots.

If it's not wasting good French wine by pouring it on the streets because France wouldn't help us invade Iraq, then it's voting for another idiot ignoramus -- "because I would like to have a beer with him" -- not just once, but twice.

So now that the average dumbass American has become disillusioned with the baby shrub, then they need to find another "comman man" that speaks for them. But this time, a significant number of DUers have gotten swept up in it.

I wonder how many DUers would like to have a beer with Lou Dobbs?

[saltpoint]

26. I'd have a beer with Lou, on two conditions. One, he pays. Two,

it's Sol beer, one of Mexico's leading brands.

And by god, it's GREAT beer.

[RagingInMiami]

27. I prefer Tecate

With a slice of lime.

[saltpoint]

31. Tecate it is! See -- I'm flexible! A big-tent beer drinker!

[symbolman]

45. I would have to add a third condition

that he wipe any Rove or Cheney semen off his face.. like a scene from "What About Mary?" :)

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. Oh isn't it amazing what a little research uncovers?

Now I think I will have some popcorn. Anyone care to join me?

:popcorn:

[Sapphire Blue]

7. ...

:hi:

:popcorn:

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. Butter? Extra salt?

How about a cold beer to go with your popcorn?

[Sapphire Blue]

12. Yes, thank you.

And iced tea would be nice.

Wonder how long it'll take for the Dobbs Defenders to show up?

[SeveneightyWhoa]

14. Research has uncovered that Dobbs is conservative?

Whoo wheee!

Yes, pass the popcorn. Next we'll learn that Dobbs is a pudgy white fat cat!

[Toucano]

8. No pass from me.

I think a lot of DUers forget that a broken clock is right twice a day. Dobbs is a broken clock.

Just because a righ-wing shill like Dobbs or Buchanan says something critical of Bush doesn't make him my ally.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

39. It's common though.

Perhaps because emotions run so high. One minute people love a guy, the next they hate him. I even remember when people were cheering Tweety on.

[Lefty48197]

9. I think the reason they don't criticize Colbert, is that they FEAR him

They know damn well that he will SKEWER anybody he chooses, so they'd just rather stay out of the fray.

[kysrsoze]

49. Prevented criticism? I believe media bias prevented COVERAGE

The press wasn't going to play the video of him calling them all what they really are - a bunch of liars and suckups. Come on, Lou. Are you really that dumb or just in complete denial?

[annabanana]

52. naw... The just don't "get it"... they are not "it getters"

The reason there wasn't more criticism is because it went right over their heads...

[jbnow]

11. Appreciating

what someone says on some issues does not mean we support everything about them or that they are our hero.

I always have appreciated what Lou says about outsourcing and insourcing, about corporate greed and their power in congress.

I have never thought because I appreciate some things he is always right.

That's true for anyone. I love Murtha speaking out on the war but the reason it has such impact is because he is so conservative and pro-miltary. I'd likely disagree with most of our positions.

Even horrible politicians can have positions I appreciate. Lindsey Graham is the most eloquent spokesman against torture, I admire that. I do not admire him.

Carl Levin is smart and progressive. He voted for Hayden, I don't agree. I love Feingold, he voted for the hearings on Clinton. I disagree.

Dobbs is great on some issues, bad on others in my views. It's no secret is is very conservative.

No one is our monkey.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

18. Of course nobody is 100% correct on all issues.

But considering that at least some of his sources, and some of his reporting is questionable, I don't understand why his word is taken as gospel. I have seen someone saying "Lou is right as always!". And that's just not true. It's not true about ANYONE.

[jbnow]

23. Agree, not true about ANYONE.

Not even the best of them.

Lou is often good but he is a conservative curmudgeon. Even when he is right his tone gets irritating.

I appreciate conservatives who bash bush, but Dobbs bashes Democrats right with them.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

13. Everyone already KNOWS Dobbs is a conservative.

I think the reason people like him is that he's a TRUE conservative who doesn't stick to the Republican script.

Nobody's expecting him to be an ideologically pure liberal, so I don't really understand your criticisms. Wow, a conservative thinks the media is liberal? There's news..

[SemiCharmedQuark]

19. What about his choosing questionable sources or misrepresenting of facts?

No party claims that as a platform.

[RagingInMiami]

30. He's just like all the rest of the talking heads

But he speaks what some DUers think, so naturally, he's their hero.

[rucky]

15. Largely because Randi Rhodes *loves* "The Dobbs"

and the soundbytes she plays are fairly anti-Bush.

I don't watch Dobbs, but I listen to Randi - that's probably what misled me about him.

Ultimately, I trust Media Matters over everything. I think Randi's just grateful to hear some anti-Bush dissent on the air, and sorta uses Dobbs as a "see-I-don't-hate-all-conservatives" mascot.

[blogslut]

16. Lou Dobbs is a

...whiny little whore bitch, a rantin' and a ravin' for ratings.

MTV barely plays videos anymore. CNN is barely airing news. After 6:00 PM, it's all drama, crime, showbidness and an overnight feed that repeats on the hour.

Lou Dobbs is doing his best to keep from being another Aaron Brown -fired cause he's not hot or young. Lou found a schtick and he's gonna milk it till the cow is dry. He won't stop until he's gone too far.

I turn him off now. He's become another sensationalist.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. Ain't that the truth?

He reminds me more all the time of Nancy Grace or Rita Crosby.

[zippy890]

36. exactly - hate mongering sensationalist

stick it too them commies, lou

'ranting and ravin' for ratings' - you got that right

[jonnyblitz]

41. dead on post , blogslut!!

:thumbsup:

[amitten]

20. Well, Lou Dobbs is a Republican, after all.

I wasn't sure if he was, until I heard a Cher interview on Air America. She was talking about Lou for some reason (they are friends) and she made it clear he was purely Republican. She did say, however, that he genuinely cares about people and world events.

[RagingInMiami]

29. He's an old-school republican, not a neocon

Still a republican.

[amitten]

38. Right. But a lot of people have expressed confusion over his

political leanings...he is a Republican.

[jonnyblitz]

42. he seems like a Pat Buchanan " paleocon" to me.

:shrug:

[RagingInMiami]

48. Whatever he is

He is not a liberal.

[jonnyblitz]

55. but DU "libruls" just seem to love him.

no comment. :eyes:

[cboy4]

21. Check out the lastest top 10 idiots. Guess who made the list?!

:rofl:

[saltpoint]

22. I'm glad some folks like Lou. But I don't like him much myself.

He's going ass over teacups on Immigration instead of concentrating on the source of the problem, which has more to do with corporate outsourcing than men and women trying to cross the border to improve their quality of life for themselves and their children.

[Stephist]

28. I will never understand the love for this man...

that some on the left have. After his CCC stunt and this crap maybe just maybe people on the left who like this man will wake up and see him for what he really is.

[otohara]

32. OMG - All This Time I Thought Press Was A Bunch of Cowards

and their job was to protect Bush cuz thier bosses are pushing for more FCC deregulation. Good to finally know, there truely is a liberal bias in the media.

The press loved Clinton so much, the cheerleaded him to "impeachment" for all sorts of evil reasons.

[johnaries]

33. Whatever happened to the Ports Security Issue?

How did it morph into the anti-illegal immigration issue? Post security is a much bigger problem, in my opinion.

[RagingInMiami]

34. How did Osama morph into Saddam?

Afghanistan morph into Iran?

WMDs morph into "liberating"?

[Initech]

40. Dobb has indeed been getting a lot of support. From white supremacists.

See this week's Top 10 Conservative Idiots for more. It seems he's been getting in bed with the Council Of Conservative Citizens.

[blm]

43. That press corps trashed Colbert from here to eternity - How Dobbs

managed to miss that orchestrated trashing of Colbert tells me Dobbs doesn't watch mainstream media - or he's LYING.

[Guaranteed]

44. Lou, sometimes you're just an idiot. nt

[symbolman]

46. When I was a kid

about 40 years ago, people would get together and have barbques and drink beer and shoot the breeze, now and then it got heated, but for the most part, it didn't MATTER if you were a Republican or Democrat, it was Yay Team and all that, but at the end of the day, everyone got along..

Now, we've been convinced that WE are a polarized nation (someone please explain why Bush is at 77% BAD if that is remotely true, we are polarized), everyone is at each other's throats..

Admittedly if IKE said some of the stuff NOW that he said then, they'd scream he was a panty waisted LIBERAL and trash him..

BUT, since the REPIGS have STOLEN the DEMS FIRE, by using Dem talking points and then doing what they WANT ANYWAY, then how about we UPGRADE and FOOL THEM?

Let's CLAIM we want to all get along, like those good old days, then USE THEM to help us IMPEACH BUSH?

I like it :)

[genieroze]

50. Why should a comedian who criticizes the chimpinator be criticized

when he was invited there as comic relief? Didn't these idgits (idiot mental midgets)ever hear of a good roasting? This whole misadministration is a freaking joke.

[in_cog_ni_to]

51. Dobbs is a psycho ass kisser. I can't stand the man.

He was OK when he talked 'money', but when he decided to show his political bias on the air, he changed my opinion of him in about 10 seconds. He's an ass.

[Dr Fate]

53. Critisism? They flat out ignored him and pretended it never happened.

What was there to criticise? All they showed was the Bush-twins clip.

Which part of the Liberal media criticised the Bush clip?

I had to go on an obscure website to even SEE the Colbert clip.

How can the media ignore somthing AND be critical of it at the same time?

[redqueen]

57. How? Because Dobbs is a lying sack of shit, that's how.

:grr:

[Marie26]

54. Beats me. nt

[redqueen]

56. I've always known he's not on our side... not on the side of truth

why people give him a pass on the many times he sucks up to the corporatocracy, simply because he manages to acknowledge reality on a few issues is beyond me

[Disturbed]

60. Lou Dobbs is correct about

outsourcing and insourcing, about corporate greed and their power in congress. I also agree that the Gust Worker program is a sham. That's about where his being correct ends. We can agree on some things he says while still not supporting him totally. He is a Paleo Conservative. Most Moderate Repubs, Liberatarians and Paleo Conservatives do not support the Bush Regime but that sure does not make them liberals.

[AzDar]

59. Lou Dobbs is no hero to me, but he's absolutely correct in sounding

off about the selling out of the 'middle class' by the government, as well as corporate America.

Illegal immigration is a TREMENDOUS threat to the well-being of the U.S.; and as far as I can perceive, Dobbs is the only person
speaking up about it.

[Orsino]

61. Dobbs is too rich to be a champion for the truth.

Perhaps he is exceptionally empathetic compared to the rest of his tax bracket, but he's just too comfortable to become any sort of hero. What, he's gonna rail against the folks who live on the estate mext door to his?

Uh-uh. He's a corporate spokesperson who's just famous enough to show a little independence.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

62. Another interesting thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2655865

[dave29]

63. Dobbs is only interested in getting his POV across

over and over again

[SemiCharmedQuark]

64. But people tend to run forwards and back rather than having a long term

view of him.