delete

[kpete]

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052906Z.shtml

[Kagemusha]

1. A recent article said, if Bush had saved Enron it'd have been worse

Hence his administration made a big point of doing nothing. Not even sure what he personally knew but, clearly his people were quite busy protecting him

[Warpy]

4. They did plenty!

They allowed Lay to hand pick members of the oversight board.

They allowed Enron to fleece California on a manufactured crisis that involved privately owned plants being shut down for "maintenance" at the same time.

They refused to allow investigations when Californians cried foul.

Then Jeffords defected, the Senate went Democratic, and investigations were threatened. The California "crisis" was suddenly over.

That's when Enron's house of cards collapsed.

Don't kid yourself. This administration bought Enron nearly a year of additional fleecing time and the people of California single handedly paid the price for keeping it all afloat.

That bit at the end when the collapse came was just a dog and pony show.

[Kagemusha]

14. I was referring to the point of collpase. Nothing more.

Don't go "don't kid yourself" on me. I studied the energy crisis in detail when it was going on. Yeah that bit at the end was a dog and pony show - did you hear me say otherwise? Did you?

Whatever. I'm frankly quite surprised they got convictions for Enron.

[dipsydoodle]

2. An analogy

A YOUNG HILLBILLY NAMED KENNY, MOVED TO TEXAS AND BOUGHT A DONKEY FROM A
FARMER FOR $100.00.THE FARMER AGREED TO DELIVER THE DONKEY THE NEXT DAY.


THE NEXT DAY THE FARMER DROVE UP AND SAID, "SORRY SON, BUT I HAVE SOME
BAD NEWS, THE DONKEY DIED."

KENNY REPLIED, "WELL, THEN, JUST GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK."

THE FARMER SAID, "CAN'T DO THAT. I WENT AND SPENT IT ALREADY."

KENNY SAID, "OK, THEN, JUST BRING ME THE DEAD DONKEY."

THE FARMER ASKED, "WHAT YA GONNA DO WITH HIM?"

KENNY SAID, "I'M GOING TO RAFFLE HIM OFF."

THE FARMER SAID, "YOU CAN'T RAFFLE OFF A DEAD DONKEY!"

KENNY SAID, "SURE I CAN. WATCH ME. I JUST WON'T TELL ANYBODY HE IS
DEAD."

A MONTH LATER, THE FARMER MET UP WITH KENNY AND ASKED, "WHAT HAPPENED
WITH THAT DEAD DONKEY?"

KENNY SAID, "I RAFFLED HIM OFF. I SOLD 500 TICKETS AT TWO DOLLARS A
PIECE AND MADE A PROFIT OF $998.00."

THE FARMER SAID, "DIDN'T ANYONE COMPLAIN?"

KENNY SAID, "JUST THE GUY WHO WON. SO I GAVE HIM HIS TWO DOLLARS BACK."

KENNY EVENTUALLY BECAME THE CHAIRMAN OF ENRON.

[kpete]

11. I have deleted

against my better judgement...

I am not in the mood for flames...

But, this is a "one day moratorium" on my part.

I try to post info of interest -

Not just info that pleases everyone.



Have a good MEMORIAL DAY!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

12. A wise decision, and good for you

It was, regardless of what you might think right now, your better judgment - to delete it.

Until there is accountability and responsibility for that sordid indictment story, these people don't deserve the attention of anyone. It's their move now, and, so far, they've behaved like the White House, in their finest "Fuck The People" tradition.

Thanks for an honorable act, kpete.

You have a good one, too.

[bridgit]

3. we here in california don't need leopold to explain this to us...

but it's good to see truthout coming up to speed, where's the link about how Lay met with Arnold in LA, and told him to be ready for the recall that would follow as a result of what they were about to do california and the electrical grid :shrug: and BAM! no more grey davis...worked like a charm...a voodoo charm

where's that link?

[Seabiscuit]

5. OK, I'll be nice, kpete. I would really like it if you would stop posting

articles from Leopold on DU . Leopold and Pitt have already wasted DUer's time almost nonstop for almost two weeks with that bogus Rove story, and upset a lot of people in the process.

Can't we just get a break from truthout?

In this case, Leopold isn't telling us anything we don't already know.

[kpete]

6. I respect your opinion

Please respect mine.

Thanks...

[kstewart33]

8. Please, no more stories from Jason until

we have a complete explanation about what happened with the Rove indictment stories. No sufficient explanation has yet been provided by Will Pitt or anyone else at truthout except for a "partial apology" whatever that means.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

10. Ahhh, yes.

Let's just wipe TO from memory. Purge them. Kinda like...censorship.

After all, how dare they even take breath or sustanance?

[OldLeftieLawyer]

13. What else do they deserve?

Acccountability would be nice, since we don't get it from the White House.

People taking responsibility and owning up to their actions - how's that for an alien concept?

Yeah, it works for Fuckface And His Band Of Illegal Squatters In The Oval Office, so that makes it desirable behavior to emulate.

No.

[Imajika]

7. Leopold?

Why does this guy continue to be viewed as a serious jounalist by anyone? This Leopold is about as believable as say Wayne Madsen - that is, not believable at all.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

9. Rehashing the known

This isn't news. This is nothing but a compilation of everything that's already been published.

The convictions are news. As will be the attempted appeals - which won't work, since it appears the judge ran an impeccable trial - and their turning themselves in will be news.

This is just old stuff rehashed.

I mean, "Kenny Boy" was Fuckface's nickname for Lay? That's news to anyone?

Another embarrassment, that's all this is.

[rocktivity]

15. And don't forget Arnold's role in this, California

He had a meeting with Enron that he doesn't remember, and re-negotiated the settlement which left six BILLION dollars of YOUR tax money in their pocket. Anybody running against him should POUND him with this!

:headbang:
rocknation

[WiseButAngrySara]

16. kpete, I knew as soon as I saw "delete" as your title, that the thread

was Leopold's most recent TO article.


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/printer_052906Z.shtml

George W. Bush and Kenneth Lay
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report Monday 29 May 2006 The Bush administration knew Enron was on a collision course two months before the high-flying energy company collapsed in a wave of accounting scandals that wiped out $60 billion in shareholder value and left thousands of company employees penniless. It was August 15, 2001, when Enron lobbyist Pat Shortridge met with then-White House Economic Adviser Robert McNally, one day after Jeff Skilling made a stunning announcement that he was stepping down as president of Enron. Shortridge confided in McNally that Enron was headed for a financial meltdown - one that could very well cripple the country's energy markets - and urged the White House economic adviser to alert President Bush about the company's financial problems so he could help put together a federal bailout, according to thousands of pages of documents about the meeting released by the government's Enron Task Force. It certainly made sense for Enron to seek help from the White House. In August of 2001, Ken Lay was still known as "Kenny Boy" to President Bush, a nickname Bush bestowed upon him when the two men were up and comers in the Texas energy and political industries respectively. When Bush announced his intention to run for president, Enron and its employees gave more than $1 million to Bush's 2000 election campaign, the Republican Party and the Bush Inaugural, and Bush aides used the Enron corporate jet during the post-election fracas in Florida.

With Thursday's guilty verdicts against Lay and Skilling on numerous counts of accounting fraud, conspiracy, and dozens of other charges, perhaps Enron should be remembered as - in addition to a symbol of greed - the first in what has become a long list of scandals that can be directly linked to the White House. Back in 2002, White House spokeswoman Anne Womack pointed out that the McNally/Shortridge meeting was acknowledged by the White House on May 22, 2002, in documents released to reporters and Senator Joe Lieberman, D-Conn. In those documents, it was noted that "Mr. McNally met with Mr. Shortridge and another individual who was not from Enron." Asked whether Enron's future had been discussed, Womack said, "If the meeting was about that, I would assume there wouldn't be anyone else there besides Mr. McNally and Mr. Shortridge."

More at link above...

[kpete]

17. WiseButAngrySara

I like YOUR kind of anger...

Because IT WORKS!

[WiseButAngrySara]

20. kpete, if people don't want to read something, let them ignore it! This

flaming immaturity has gone beyond the pale! It is madness.

Happy Memorial Day!!!!

[dogday]

18. Unless the Moderators

ask you or delete this thread, you post what you want kpete.. I for one appreciate ALL your posts.. If people don't like it, then put the thread on ignore... What an easy thing to do... :hi:

[MelissaB]

19. I agree!

:hi:

[WiseButAngrySara]

21. Yes! I'm with kpete on everything posted, and also appreciate

the valuable service for the DU Community!

:hi:

[dogday]

22. K&R

#5 on to greatest

On edit... kpete, please correct and post original content... Thanks again :hi:

[kpete]

25. Too late

But thanks for the support

and Have A Good Memorial Day

(I would say "great" but it seems too sad a day to feel over joyous)

[dogday]

31. You do a great job

Hope you have a nice Memorial Day... I know what you mean about sad, read my post


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1307051&mesg_id=1307051

[WiseButAngrySara]

23. kick! DU is not to be bullied by a few belligerents! ....n/t

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[RoadRunner]

33. Locking

OP deleted, nothing to discuss.