DO YOU want to KNOW the truth!

[serryjw]

We continuously ask who are the 29% that vote for *. Are they stupid? Are they misinformed? Are the brainwashed by Rush & Sean? Look at the falling poll numbers. Most Americans do not follow what is happening in the beltway like we do. They get their info, at best, from MSM that we all know is lying, telling half truths OR DO NOT report it at all. With Libby's indictment and all the MSM coverage of Plamegate almost no one is reporting the demise of Brewster Jennings.
The polling of * at 29% is getting close to his base of wealthy, upper class and social conservatives that will either vote for him OR stay home. They will never vote for dems.

When I am confronting(while petitioning) with a * lover I ask the simple question; Do you WANT to know? I ask for their email address and send links to important information. MOST do not want to know. They simply can't handle the truth. Most of what is happening we really can't change and they know it. They are scared, broke and confused. I have spoke to many ,while petitioning, that are in their 70's and have lived through much in our history. They can't believe what is happening. They are too old and tired to fight for change. The over 70 crowd is lost. The just want to live out their lives the best they can.

My experience is the 35-45 crowd. They are totally brainwashed. UNTIL we make it fashionable to be a liberal our cause is lost. OH, some may vote for us in 2006/08 but they will never accept that that our ideology is right

[Alcibiades]

1. I'm 38

and not brainwashed, not even partially, much less totally. Our generation grew up in the 1970's, the age of triumphant liberalism. Many of us retained the values of that era.

[Scoody Boo]

2. Want to know another TRUTH?

Of the 71% of those that dissapprove of the President performance is a majority of Republicans who are pissed because he is not conservative enough. Don't the the numbers lull you into a false sense of security that those people are coming to our side.

Bush lost them because they percieved he moved to the left.

[billbuckhead]

4. Much of the 20% fall in Chimpy's numbers is due to high gas prices

This 20% was fine with stealing Iraq's oil as long as it brought fuel prices down, but now that gas prices are high they feel betrayed.

[serryjw]

5. I think if you look at the

1992 Clinton map that is where the country is. They may not embrace gay marriage but they don't want a constitutional amendment. Over 70% want ROE to stay legal but with some caveats depending on the state. Terry Sciavo was a BIG lost cause for the RW. They think it's a VERY private matter that ALL families will face soon with the country aging.

[Jade Fox]

9. Bush lost them because....

he made them a bunch of promises he didn't keep. He can't keep them: the majority of Americans won't go for it.

But,I agree: it's foolish to imagine that low Bushco poll numbers mean Wingnut conversion to our side. However, Liberals and Moderates are the basic majority in this country, temporary insanity induced by 9/11 not withstanding.

[SeaBob]

12. Numbers.

Very perceptive analysis.

lets not become to smug

[Scoody Boo]

13. In 2004...

to much faith was taken in that Bush's unpopularity would be his undoing. Let's not make that mistake again.

[peace frog]

3. It doesn't matter whether liberalism becomes 'fashionable'

or not, most Bush supporters see nothing wrong with their worldview. This administration's policies match perfectly with that of their supporters; Bush may lose another five or so percentage points in his approval numbers, but that's about it. We have to accept the fact that approximately 20-25% of the American public is racist, homophobic and xenophobic, always were, always will be, regardless of who occupies the White House.

[serryjw]

8. Didn't I say that?

That the 29% is about his base.....maybe for different reasons but that is his base and WE have the same 35% that will always vote for dems....what is different is the Independent that has no political affiliation and will vote for who they like.

Times change, issues change. The age of the country is changing. In '92 I was 42. I didn't think much about SS but in 2008 when I will be 58 it will be a huge issue for me.Could Bill Clinton get elected in 2008?

[peace frog]

11. You said 'brainwashed'

"They are totally brainwashed. UNTIL we make it fashionable to be a liberal our cause is lost."

which is not at all the same point I made. In my opinion the 29% of Bush supporters you referenced are perfectly at ease and identify with his policies regardless of their overt or covert racism, homophobia and xenophobia.

[serryjw]

14. Brainwashed

I was referring to the 35-45 crowd that listens endlessly to Rush & Sean and worship every word they say. I wish I had a dollar for every time one of them quoted me from their MBA with I believe in a market driven economy:puke:

[peace frog]

16. Fine, but that's not the same thing

eom

[kansasblue]

6. similar to what I see..

On issues like Iraq. This is simple to the * lover. " we need the f*cking oil, we need it!, case closed"

On election fraud. His attitude is somewhat like getting a lucky call by a ref in a football game. It's not right but kind of funny. The Dems have to fix it. What ever they can get away is ok because the cause it right.

And the final one. The tax cuts. The money. He loves it. Money more than anything else.

He has his first son. I ask about global warming. Has he researched it? Not really. Has having a son made him think more about it? Not really. Want's the inheritance tax removed so his $$$ can go to his son.

[RufusEarl]

7. My email list

I to have a list of believers in my address book, and i send them stories that should open their eyes, but for some reason they don't. i suppose Rush & Hannity have more pull with these people then the truth.

I keep sending articles that should open the eyes of any rational thinking human, and i believe they read the articles. They even reply with snide remarks, such as "We have to support our troops" I reply with OK support the troops, but that doesn't mean you have to support Bu$h.

I have no intention of quitting, i will keep trying to change these peoples minds. The evidence keeps piling up around this administration feet, but true believers seem to ignore it.

Peace

[serryjw]

10. FACT v FAITH!

Dems have always dealt with facts...unfortunately, that is not true of most of the country. They vote for the likable candidate. Kerry may have won but he wasn't likable to most of the country, * was.Over the last 3 years I have sent out dozens of emails to people I have met. VERY few ever responded. They do want the oil and don't care HOW we get it.

That is one of the reasons that i support Clark. He is a very charming man and is the right man at the right time. The world needs him in 2008

[newspeak]

15. some of these 29%

already have perceived ideas and prejudices. There the Limbaugh ditto heads, the O'Reilly junkies who love hearing what they already believe. How do you reach out to someone who is so insecure, so afraid--the "me, mine" crowd--they care for no one else. There is no empathy, and sometimes I believe, no conscience. They follow only certain parts of the Bible that concurs with their preconceived notions--those parts that validate what they already believe as truth. How do you reason with them? You don't. They will not listen to anything that does not validate their held beliefs.