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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:23 PM
Original message
Thank-you thread to FR
Edited on Mon May-29-06 05:26 PM by Charlie Brown
This is unorthodox here, but I'd like to start a thank-you thread to the members of Freerepublic who counter-protested the Fred Phelps people at Arlington. Phelps is a hateful bastard, and I'm glad some members of the right and left can unite in opposing his venom.

BOTH groups have a right to speak, but I applaud the freeps for having the resolve to stare down the hateful fundamentalists and defend the reputations of the fallen soldiers.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:27 PM
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1. Fuck Them. They're More Destructive Than Phelps Could Ever Be.
Last thing I'll ever do is thank a dirty, brain-dead, toothless, constitution-hating, self-hygeine ignoring freeper fucker.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:28 PM
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3. I'll second that! n/t
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. dont hold back OMC, tell us how you really feel
I agree 100%
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #1
41. Fuck Em is Right
Bunch a whacko dorks.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:35 PM
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78. Amen. Phelps is a nobody.
He's been doing this street theater for decades. It's how they make their money. They sue people who react emotionally. They even sue over pejoratives. Most people settle out of court.

He's been hounding Kansas City's gay community since the 80s. Nobody has done more push for equality for gays in KC as Fred Phelps. The stealth bigots distance themselves from him so much that they are neutered.

Freeps don't care that they hate gays, they just care bout the way they hate gays. Freeps are cut from the same cloth scumbags as the Phelps clan. They wanted the exposure, noteriety, and press. There was nothing honorable, or in support of the troops in what they did. It's all about putting Freepland in the news.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 07:21 AM
Response to Reply #78
104. And it's not just Freeptards who only started caring about Phelps
I'm appalled that it took so long for this to become a household topic. Had Phelps' Manson-style cult simply continued to harrass the families of dead queers, they'd still be doing it with the tacit blessings of the Freeptards and most Republican voters.

Fuck them; they're cowardly cretins, all.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #1
86. !
:applause:
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:22 AM
Response to Reply #1
98. You are letting the powers that be divide you.
Next, they will conquer all of us.

I've said it once, and I will say it again: Americans must unite in order to fight corporate slavedrivers. We must fight things that we can agree on, rather than let wedge issues divide us. I think that if we all sat down to talk with "the other side" we would probably find a lot more that we agree on than we disagree on. Be a part of the solution, not the problem.

MOST Americans are liberal, even the "Freepers" are liberal in many of their beliefs. They just don't label themselves as such. We all need to find a common ground if we are going to take our country back.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:06 AM
Response to Reply #1
101. After seeing THIS freep thread, I have to agree with you
This FR link was posted here at DU on another thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1640317/posts?q=1&&page=1

It's called Shameful reactions to Haditha 'atrocity', and yes, the o.p. put quotes around atrocity as if the act of murdering kneeling, begging, unarmed civilians is a trivial matter.

Fuck 'em, they're no better than terrorists.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #1
106. Yee haw
Edited on Tue May-30-06 09:12 AM by libhill
what's fer supper granpa? :) Possum innards n' grits wit gravy - mmmm mmmm Me an' Daisey Sue kin go do us some protestin' on a full belly - hope them fancy libral folk don't care ifn Daisey goes to that thar place barefoot...
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:27 AM
Response to Reply #1
111. They hate it when their ideas are carried to their logical conclusions
Freeptards hate it when their screwball, stupid, crap is carried to its logical result. For example, they really hate it when those embarrassing parallels are drawn between the prayer-obsessed, sin-obsessed Muslims, and the prayer-obsessed, sin-obsessed "Christian" fundamentalists.

And they would really hate it if, say, next time one of their icons (such as Ann Coulter) were to say on TV, "We should kill them all" about, say, "ragheads" or "fags"--and if, say, someone would suddenly haul this "raghead" or some "flaming faggot" right onto the set of Hannity & Colmes and say, "Okay, Ann, here's one, and here's a gun, so shoot him RIGHT NOW."
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:28 PM
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2. fuck that. 3/4 of them are Freeper MEMBERS anyway
Freepers HATE our troops. that is a givin.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:30 PM
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4. I think they protested Phelps because he's a Democrat.
(Unfortunately, he's one of us in backing Democratic candidates.) I think if Phelps were a Republican they would agree with him.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:54 PM
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89. He's a Democrat like Satan is an angel
If the ABA barred him from practicing law, then maybe the Democratic Party can officially disown him too. After all, he has NO progressive agenda - he is further right than Dobson, Falwell, and other creatures of his ilk. I just wish the people who follow those creeps realized they ARE what they hate.


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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #89
91. I find his backing of Democrats peculiar too.
Maybe it's further proof that he's pretty insane.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:31 PM
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5. I would like to do the same, but their "homosexual agenda"
Edited on Mon May-29-06 05:32 PM by janx
compilation of threads prevents me from doing so.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=homosexualagenda

As long as they think there is anything like a damaging "homosexual agenda," they are in fact contributing to the Fred Phelpses of this world.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #5
23. I'd like to ask the FReepers why they are supporting the homosexual agenda
by protesting Phelps...
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #23
107. And while you're at it -
Edited on Tue May-30-06 09:34 AM by libhill
ask them about their weird obsession with Clinton's penis... wtf?
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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:33 PM
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7. Freepers and Phelps cult
Can agree on one thing: they both hate gays.
The Freepers (and the rest of the hypocrites) had no problem with the Phelps cult when they were picketing gay people's funerals.
Thank them? They should all get run over by a bus.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:34 PM
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8. See?I told you it was a bad Idea Charlie Brown.
Edited on Mon May-29-06 05:34 PM by jeff30997
On the other hand how many DUers ever organized a protest against Phelps?
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. That's a good point
Edited on Mon May-29-06 05:37 PM by Charlie Brown
The freeps were willing to confront Phelps and outspokenly reject his message, and for that, they deserve a thank-you.

I'm not asking people to become members of freerepublic or subscribe to FR's prejudiced views, just to give credit where credit is due.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. No.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Shouldn't we be encouraging people to resist Phelps?
If people are standing up to hate, shouldn't that be applauded? What difference does it make what their views are on other issues?

What's wrong with a simple thank-you?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. I Wouldn't Thank A Nazi For Protesting Against Animal Cruelty Either.
I'd still tell him to go fuck himself.

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #16
25. Phelps should be ignored and left to the police. n/t
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #16
29. They are not standing up to hate. That's the point....
They couldn't care less about hate. They thrive on it - hate,fear and bigotry.

Their only problem with Phelps is, he is stepping on their flag-waiving-chickehawk-jingoistic-cheeto-stained view of Amurika.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. The definitive answer. nt
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #16
42. Because their hatred of homosexuality
is the SAME issue - not an "other issue." They are not standing up to hate, they are protesting disruption of military funerals - not hatred.

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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. if they're protesting disruption of military funerals
shoudn't they at the very least be commended for that?
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AllNamesHaveBeenUsed Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #44
54. Yes...
I'm with you on this. I don't have a problem commending folks, with whom I normally disagree, for a positive act. Consider it positive reinforcement.
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #44
84. Not necessarily.
I think that disrupting anyone's funeral, military or not, is reprehensible. I don't necessarily think that counterprotesting is helpful - and it is certainly not the same as condemning hatred.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #44
108. They should be commended
only when they go enlist - being as they're all so gung ho about the war and the military -
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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #9
18. Bull
They weren't interested in confronting anybody. All they wanted was a venue for their hypocritical bullshit. They are as bad or worse as the Phelps nuts. They want to wave their little flags made in China and play holier than thou patriots without ever having done a god damned thing for them. They are hypocrites of the lowest order.

I'm all for a content neutral law that says that you can't picket an ongoing funeral. But when you start playing favorites then count me out. Everybody deserves respect or nobody does when it comes to funerals.

Today's spectacle and Bush's bull is shameful all around.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #9
22. They will get credit from me when they defend the rights of homosexuals
and protect their families from Phelps
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:27 AM
Response to Reply #9
99. Credit is due to those individuals who happen to be posters
on a hate web site and who seem to be making incremental progress.

But freepers, in general? No.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #8
52. THOUSANDS more than the pathetic ten the Freeps turned out.
And, more to the point, we counter-protest for very different reasons.

WE turn out against Phelps because we actually DISAGREE with him;
those ten freeps were there because they wanted to DISTANCE
themselves from a loony who SHARES THEIR IDEALS.

They don't OPPOSE Phelps.
They weren't there to "stare down" the forces of blind, unthinking hatred.

They mounted their "protest" solely on the concern
that Phelps is giving homophobes a bad name!



You wanna compare AMERICAN protests to Freeper Events?
Fine.
Let's do that:

Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day 2006,
MAJOR "National Holiday"; MAJOR event with the pResident in attendance.
Freeps scrape up 10 people to "protest" the PhelpsBots,
and suddenly CharlieBrown is gushing over their display of concern.

Now let's compare that to this side-street in tiny Durham NC,
on a weeknight 2 years ago when the only 'event' was
a local High School production of "The Laramie Project":







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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #8
61. I don't think he needs to be protested against. Really.
He's his own worst enemy when he gets out there and does his thing. Anyone with any brains, with any sensitivity, can see he is an evil, twisted man. If anything, he helps our cause just by being Fred Phelps.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. Bingo
Like cockroaches when you turn on the lights, they go scurrying. Phelps and his spawn are the best argument for free speech that I've seen since David Duke tried to run for Congress.

Let him speak. He's doing what the Constitution says he can do, and if speech isn't free for Phelps, it's not free for any of us.

The most hateful speech requires the most protection.

That's the American way.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #62
67. And why are the freeps protesting him? Phelps makes them look bad.
Think about it for a minute...heh heh.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. Politics -
it's always made strange bedfellows.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #8
74. Lots of them here in his neck of the woods
There are Duers here in KS and MO who protest against him all the time.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #8
79. And give him the exposure he craves?
You need to look at Phelps' 25-30 year history before you jump fall for his bait. His shit didn't start last year.

Amazing that few people cared about this when he was picketing funerals of gay people, including investigative journalist Randy Shilts, Matthew Sheppard, and countless others, but now everybody is outraged because they chose to picket funerals of soldiers. Here's a hint...they are doing it because this is the precise reaction they were going for.

The more Phelps gets publically opposed, the more he gains in press, and revenue in lawsuits.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:37 PM
Response to Original message
10. Fuck them and the horses they rode in on(after they had sex). nt
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:39 PM
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11. I know you meant well, but...they may be with us on this, but
they're against all decent humanity on everything else.

And they're REALLY stupid, to boot. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

But I know you meant well.

Redstone
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:39 PM
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12. Did they protest when Phelps shit all over a gay man's funeral?
No they DID NOT. Fuck them. They laughed at Fred's crazy antics when he was focused on hating gay people.

So....Fuck them.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. It is like Nazis confronting KKK'ers. Fuck em all. eom
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:44 PM
Response to Original message
14. FR is waiting to join Phelps' "thank God for dead journalists' protest
fuck em
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:45 PM
Response to Original message
15. Free Republic is the mother of a thousand lousy ideas and a million evil
Edited on Mon May-29-06 05:51 PM by DeaconBlues
acts. But if you can look at this one action in isolation, I think it should be applauded. I only wish it had been DUers at that demonstration, and not freepers

Edit to tell you that you must really have a brass pair of cojones to post something like this ;-)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:47 PM
Response to Original message
19. Why does this not surprise me?
PS When they start counterprotesting Phelps disgusting displays at gat funerals, give me a holler.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Why does it not surprise you?
Edited on Mon May-29-06 05:54 PM by Charlie Brown
I'm not sure I follow.

People spoke out against Phelps and I'm grateful. It doesn't matter to me that we disagree on other issues.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. Even better, why not post the thank you at FR itself?
It matters to me that we disagree on other issues. As mentioned, where were they when Phelps was protesting Matt Shepard's funeral?
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. So everyone who criticizes Phelps today is a hypocrite
if they weren't speaking out 8 years ago when Phelps was at Matt Shepard's funeral? That places an impossible criteria for potential allies to meet, and it makes it much harder for the left to resist people like Phelps.

How will anyone come to realize Phelps is a hateful bastard if people of all walks of life do not cofront him?

DUers were not at the Arlington ceremony confronting Phelps, but FR members were, and they have my thanks.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #24
80. Oh' get off it. They weren't speaking out against him.
They were whoring for photos, kudos and fame to be put in the newspapers, and this was a good way to get that done. This was about Freeptard exposure, not about Phelps.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:47 PM
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20. Are you serious?!?
Not exactly my kind of people, no matter how you slice it.







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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #20
28. Progressives should encourage people to confront Phelps
and that's exactly what the FR members were doing. Good for them.
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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. Progressives should encourage people to be progressive
And not be freeper nutballs.

This has got to be the dumbest thread all day.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. Well, I'm sorry you think it's "dumb"
but it means a lot to me that people are confronting hateful pseudo-religious people like Phelps, and I'm willing to thank them, even if I don't agree with them on anything else.

Confronting hate can break down even the most formidable barriers.
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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #33
38. You just don't get it
They aren't "confronting hate". They ARE FOR HATE. They just want to play being patriots. And all they've done is give more free publicity to the Phelps nuts. To truely confront the Phelps clans hate you have to SPEAK FOR GAY RIGHTS not dance around the Phelps clan giving them publicity. They are attacking funerals for a reason. THEY WANT THE PUBLICITY. And you and your freeper friends along with the political hypocrites are playing right into their hands.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #38
43. So, they were in cahoots with Phelps?
All I saw in the press reports were people confronting a virulently homophobic church at a miliary funeral, and they have my thanks. I don't care where we disagree on other issues.

If you know anything about connections between Phelps and FR, please let me know.
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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #43
47. Are you paying attention?
FREEPERS ARE VIRULENTLY HOMOPHOBIC TOO!
They don't care about gay rights. THEY ARE AGAINST GAY RIGHTS. JUST LIKE THE PHELPS.
Can't you see that?
They also could care less about the troops either. They are frauds. They are pro-war, pro-death and as such anti-troop.
Jeeezzus.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. I don't applaud their views
I just applaud them for confronting the far worse Westboro Baptist people. They were on the correct ethical side of that stand-off.
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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. No they weren't
They are no better than the Phelps'.
THEY ARE BOTH HOMOPHOBIC. So what were they standing up against? Picketing funerals? They have no problem with that either depending on who's funeral it is. They had no problem with Phelps when he picketed Coretta Scott Kings funeral.

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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #31
56. Workers of the world, unite!
Marx's message suggests that workers need to unite against the Capitalists of the world.

Progressives today use a similar message. Unite for a common cause. We can unite with freepers on this cause, and fight them on the other causes.
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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. Say WHAT?
We can unite with fascists to fight fascists? Oh gawd.
This just gets more and more pathetic.
There is no "common cause" with these morans. THEY ARE AGAINST GAY RIGHTS JUST LIKE THE PHELPS'.
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #58
64. You think all "workers" think alike?
I bet a lot of them think like freepers on the gay rights subject. Still, Socialists say they should all unite against Capitalism.

We do have some things in common with most of those people. We both think it's wrong to dishonor the memory of gays and troops by protesting at their funerals for example. I don't see the typical freeper doing that. Why can't we unite on what we do have in common and fight them on what we don't?
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Xeric Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:20 PM
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71. No they DO NOT think that
They do not think it's wrong to dishonor the memory of gays. They don't really even give a flying fuck about the troops. And right now they are actually mocking the CBS journalists that got killed today.
There may be lumpenized (to use some tired marxist verbiage) workers that are and think like freepers. So what? We should drop our principles to accomodate them? What exactly are you saying (if anything) here? That we should look to find common ground with idiots? That the Democrats should drop gay rights as an issue to accomodate bigots in order to pander to them? No thanks.
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #71
109. "You're either with us or against us".
That's exactly what you're saying when you say that we're comprimising gay rights if we side with right wing people when we agree with them on an issue.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:14 PM
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34. Bull.
A bunch of idiots standing on both sides of the street.

I prefer to stand with neither.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 05:55 PM
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26. I agree. It's about the issues; not the label we sew to our shirtsleeves.
And in general, it's better to work with people.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:15 PM
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35. Thank you anyone who confronts intolerance and hate
thank you for doing so.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:17 PM
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36. Freepers Are The Epitomy Of Intolerance And Hate. You Know That Right?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:24 PM
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39. I will thank an evil person for their 1 good thing
I will fight against all the other bs they do, but thank them for doing anything decent.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:29 PM
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59. I Won't. Especially When The Act Is Disingenuous.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:30 PM
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60. OK, we are different people.
peace to you.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:18 PM
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37. The problem I have with that wonderful sentiment in this instance is
Edited on Mon May-29-06 06:24 PM by soup
which intolerant and hateful group are you thanking?

edit because I typed 'is' instead of 'in' - those big words get me every time...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:25 PM
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40. if someone intolerant does something decent, thank them for that
and give them hell for the rest. I am having troubles typing "and", want to do "nad"
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:31 PM
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45. You're much more generous than I.
Edited on Mon May-29-06 06:33 PM by soup
These are the very same people who cheer on this 'war'.

This thread reminds me of the saying - The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Edit to wonder if they would have been there even if phelps wasn't. Darn it, you're making me think too much.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:41 PM
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49. They are no friend of mine, even if an enemy of my enemy
just saying thank you for doing 1 decent thing. May be all they ever do, may be far outweighed by all the bad, but still. I can hate and say thank you too.
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bunyip Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:31 PM
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46. Phelps and the Freepers
deserve to spend eternity together. Naked.

But I will grudgingly thank them for this one counter-protest.

:kick:
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:44 PM
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51. they are birds of a feather
yuck
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:57 PM
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53. To all lurking Freepers. Freepers deserve no quarter.
First, you can go fuck yourselves. Second, you are all traitors to the United States of America for supporting the Bush junta which in a coup in 2000 stole the leadership position of our great nation. Third, quit inbreeding. Fourth, I equate the whole lot of you with the Nazis in mid-twentieth century Germany. Fifth, you are the most racist, misled, uneducated people on the planet and the entire world despises you.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #53
76. quit inbreeding!!
LOLOLOLOL

:rofl:
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:07 PM
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55. Agreed.
I normally think Free Republic is fucked up, but freepers who stood up to him came through this time.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:10 PM
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57. And Hitler was good to his mother
...that's the second time I've typed that today.

I can appreciate the spirit of your post, at least. Good enough? :hi:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:49 PM
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63. Good for you, Charlie Brown!
While I'm in favor of free speech, and the Phelps group has every right to do what it does - this being America and us having that pesky First Amendment and all - you did a good thing here, and I applaud you for it.

It's sometimes about cooperation and not competiition, and all the namecalling and divisiveness can, even for a short moment or one issue, stop, and we can maybe find out that we share more than we thought.

It's a start. After all, we do have a country to rescue.

Your post brought out the best and worst of DU, and, just for that, I thank you.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. I don't consider that fair
much as I respect your posts. :)

The point is, FR protested Phelps when it was convenient to them. How is it the 'worst' of us to say that have not lifted a finger at the Matt Shepard situation?
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #65
69. We select our beliefs,
and so do they.

They're entitled, just as we are.

"Fair"?

Pease don't go down that road. My opinion is all that it was, and attempting to characterize an opinion as "fair" or "unfair" is to try to put a gloss on it that takes it far beyond the realm of a simple message board. "Fair" has nothing to do with how I see a situation. It's my subjective thought, that's all

Yes, we all protest what matters to us. And we pick and choose. I'm not about to go out and protest Phelps, because I am in favor of free speech and I think it's good for everyone, no matter how hateful. I'm an absolutist when it comes to free speech.

Expecting people to share a complete agenda because you happen to believe in that complete agenda is not something I could ever possibly embrace.

But, if it works for you, I guess maybe you'd call that "fair," no?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #69
95. I don't expect FR to share my complete agenda.
But I am sure as hell not going to sign a "thank you card" for sharing one belief out of 1000.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #65
82. Exactly.
gmta.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:16 PM
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70. Deleted sub-thread
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #63
83. Freakers are worried that Phelps gives religious rightwingers a bad name
That was the only reason ten (count em - ten) of them were out there today.

That and they have a visceral hatred for anyone who disses the military.

The guy who organized this for the Freakers is a strange little man who accosts government officials in doorways and yells at them and wears bizarre costumes to protests.

This is hardly an act of conscience or good will. Pure far rightwing political theatre.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:43 PM
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:08 PM
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66. "DUers were not at the Arlington ceremony confronting Phelps!"
"But FR were and they have my thanks!" -- from your post above.

This is in and of itself insulting. Do you suggest that DU does not "support the troops"?
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:21 PM
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72. Fuck that.
Where the fuck were the freepers when Phelps was protesting gay funerals for the past couple of decades?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:22 PM
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73. All TEN of them
How many members do they claim to have? And they could only get TEN to show up for this protest?

I am willing to bet the Phelps group outnumbered them.
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:25 PM
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75. I'm willing to thank them for that. But then I draw the line.
FReepers are the worst of a bad bunch. Period.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:31 PM
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77. CB
the reason Freakers (all 10 of them) were out there protesting Phelps was twofold:

1) They have a serious dislike of anyone who "disrespects" the military.

2) They see Phelps as very bad public relations for conservative Christians. He is what you get when you take the religious rightwing movement to its logical conclusion, thus they wish to marginalize him so he doesn't discredit all of them.

Their motives were self serving and venally political.

Had ANY of them ever protested when Phelps was protesting at gay funerals (like Mathew Shephards), then I would applaud them and give them credit where credit is due.

But they never did. Phelps got free rein from them then.

What does that tell you?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:12 PM
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81. Go Freepers!
LOL. It looks like we do have some things in common after all.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #81
85. no we don't
most of us have would have protested Phelps when he was picketing GAY funerals.

The Freepers wouldn't have been caught dead doing that.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:33 PM
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92. True
Edited on Mon May-29-06 10:38 PM by Marie26
My post was a little tongue-in-cheek. I realize that the Freepers wouldn't care if Phelps harassed gay people, they just don't like that he's harassing military families. But on that narrow issue, we do agree. But I still can't quite bring myself to thank them - it seems like something that anyone w/humanity would be opposed to. Still, the Freepers did help protest, & that was a good thing. Maybe DU should organize a protest, too?
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:50 PM
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88. I thank FR for leading me to DU
I posted on that site one time-- that's all it took to get myself tombstoned. They accused me of being a "troll" and a "DU-er".

I knew about trolls, but DU? Depleted Uranium? Duke University? That's how NOT a DU-er I was at the time.

I puzzled over that accusation for a while, but finally pieced together from some other posts on FR that they were talking about Democratic Underground.

I thought, hey, maybe I AM a DU-er! If the shoe fits. So I've been here ever since.

Thank you FR!
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:17 PM
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90. Fuck that and fuck them.
This veteran will NOT thank a freeper for anything, especially not on Memorial Day.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:41 PM
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:07 PM
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94. Ohferchrissakes! Freepers ARE Fred Phelps. FR promotes that hatred.
Jesus. Are you so blind that you actually think those turds at FR are really aghast at Phelp's tactics?

The excrement at FR INVENTED what Phelps is doing.

Get the fuck out of here.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:31 PM
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96. Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Good on them.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:53 AM
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97. They can go fuck themselves.
They agree with Phelps on the "fags" issue. They are just making a show of the funerals.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:31 AM
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100. Where were they when Phelps and his slimy clan were protesting
the funerals of gay people? At best they were silent, at worst they were cheering him on. Now that Phelps et. al. are protesting military funerals the Freepers are up in arms and protesting the protests.

They are not protesting hatred, they are protesting the fact that the demonstrations are taking place at military funerals. If they were still taking place at the funerals of gay people the Freepers wouldn't be protesting a thing.

They don't deserve any thanks.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 05:11 AM
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102. Maybe we can all be friends
:sarcasm:

Sorry but this kind of nonsense cracks me up. Yeah, they'r enot so bad after all.

Now, when do the little warmongers enlist? That's when I will be impressed.

Julie
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 06:15 AM
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103. no thanks... n/t
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:02 AM
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105. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Thanks to FR for standing up for bigotry. Now if they'd only do it more often.


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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:19 PM
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110. They get a cookie. But only one.
I know they don't like Phelps. I got deleted over there for posting a Phelps thread. I didn't expect that. It happened in all of five minutes. I got a message that said a link to his site was not welcome, and then almost immediately I was gone.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:49 AM
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112. freepers can fuck themselves
they spew garbage more disgusting than those protesters every g.d. DAY
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