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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:53 AM
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Jonathan Turley: 'deep constitutional crisis" re. FBI raid. now on cnn.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:54 AM
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1. The HOW it was done was the problem
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:58 AM
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5. Jeralyn Merritt
I have great respect for Jeralyn Merritt and she had an excellent article about this with a copy of the Search Warrant. You may want to look at it. Her site is called "Talk Left" if you haven't seen it before it's a good one to bookmark.

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014961.html

The warrant is 95 pages and very tedious. Very bad news. Ms. Merritt says it was handled very well. She is one of us.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:11 AM
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10. I don't see where, in her writings, she says the search was handled
very well. I don't see where she addresses the search, itself, at all. She only comments on the search warrant and the subsequent memorandum by the defense and feels both documents are impressive.

Turley was making the point that the process by which the search was conducted is the issue and, from what I read from Jeralyn's comments, she doesn't address that aspect at all.
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:54 PM
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16. OK
It could have been in one of her previous posts, I read her blog 3-4 times a day. Sorry if I sent you on a wild goose chase. I really like her site.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:06 PM
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17. No problem, I, too, like talkleft and firedoglake for their perspectives
on legal matters.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:56 AM
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2. Amazing how this is a constitutional crisis, but not NSA or The Patriot Ac
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:57 AM
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3. yes, but John Conyers listed those this morning at the Judiciary hearing.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:58 AM
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4. They're all Constitutional crises
It's just that this is the only one Congress is willing to recognize because they're the ones affected by it.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:59 AM
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6. yeah, my thoughts as well
The constitutional crisis began with the 2000 coup, IMO.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:03 AM
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7. Le-mme see: election decided by Supreme court, secret energy commision
courts pressured to back off, POTUS lying to congress about reasons for war, POTUS making 750+ signing statements about laws not applicable to him, NSA spying on US citizens and POTUS pressuring congress. courts to lay off inquiries, V-POTUS pressuting congress to lay of 911 investigation (and countless others). I am sure there are more - in fact, let's try to get a comprehensive list - please add what I missed.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:05 AM
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8. Ya know
I was in correspondance with a Constitutional scholar a while ago who had published an article about how we were in a Constitutional crisis which I'd been screaming about for a while.

Just for the heck of it I went to wikipedia and looked up the term. It was defined as a breakdown of the three branches of government. I wondered well we have something different or did at the time. This is the homogenization of the three branches of government and the media. Checks and balances have gone "poof." So doesn't or didn't it qualify as something else?

She said she'd give is some thought but I haven't yet heard back from her.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:08 AM
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9. One of many...
Bush treats the Constitution like an old newspaper.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:11 AM
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11. More like a NEW roll of toilet paper... Sadly. nt
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:15 AM
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13. True. Much more accurate.
:(
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:14 AM
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12. Hey -
We need to support the Congress in this Constitutional Crisis because Alberto "Its Not a Crime if the President Does It" Gonzales has threatened to quit if the Congress gets the documents back. You know of anything that would protect the Constitution more than getting rid of that fascist bastard (other than impeaching & convicting Junior & Deadeye themselves, that is.)
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:26 AM
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14. We can only hope Gonzales does resign, like you said...
the best thing for the Constitution.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:14 PM
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15. Why is there so little concern here that a President with this power is
likely to use it selectively, on his political enemies?
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