per Fox Poll: Jeb only one we can beat in 08

[Laura PourMeADrink]

with GORE or CLINTON running....

[Aviation Pro]

1. Fuxed should always add....

..."based on a poll of our Republican white trash that sits in their trailer parks all day." (In which case they are in deep doo-doo).

[Laura PourMeADrink]

2. and Newt says he may be next Prez

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/05/28/State/Gingrich__Gov_Bush_co.shtml

Gingrich: Gov. Bush could be president
By Times Staff
Published May 28, 2006

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His brother's approval ratings are in the cellar, and that whole dynasty thing doesn't help. But don't underestimate Jeb Bush's prospects as a future presidential contender, says former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

Probably '08 is a little bit tricky, but " '12 or '16 isn't. And he's a young enough guy (53) that he has a great future," Gingrich said on the Political Connections television show airing today on Bay News 9. "I just think his natural, personal ability is so great that people are going to realize he is not his father and he's not his brother. He's a very unique, charismatic leader with extraordinary capabilities. ... Jeb Bush may well be the most innovative (governor) in the entire country."

Gingrich taped the interview after headlining a recent fundraiser for state Rep. Gus Bilirakis' campaign to succeed his father in Congress. He addressed everything from his fears that Republican loyalists won't turn out heavily in November to congressional intervention in the Terri Schiavo case (reasonable idea, clumsily executed) to Florida being a competitive but Republican-leaning state.

"A Republican Party that comes down and thinks, 'I can yell Republican, Republican, Republican, and I'll win,' I think misunderstands the underlying character of the state. That's why for example you have in Bill Nelson such a formidable opponent, because he's a guy who figured out that there is a niche where Democrats can win down here," said Gingrich, who did nothing to discourage speculation about him running for president in 2008.

Which potential Democratic presidential candidate most worries him? "Either (former Virginia) Gov. Mark Warner or (Indiana) Sen. Evan Bayh have a lot to offer the Democratic Party because they're more moderate," he said, predicting either would have a very tough time beating Hillary Clinton for the nomination.

Gingrich said Sen. Clinton will have a tough time winning over voters in much of the country, including Florida, but Republicans are foolish to underestimate her: "She's very smart; she works very hard. Anyone who thinks we're going to beat her easily is just wrong. We can beat her if we have better ideas and better solutions, and people have a choice between a left-wing view of the world and a solution-oriented view of the world. We're not going to beat her just with an anti-Hillary campaign."

Gingrich likewise fretted the Republican loyalists might stay away from the polls in November out of disenchantment with Republican leaders in Washington.

[woodsprite]

3. Did anyone watch Penn and Teller's "Bull$hit" last night?

Well, that's what I'm calling this poll!

[DemNoir]

4. Yeah thanks

I'm always interested in FOX propaganda. What a waste of time.

[YOY]

5. So according to Faux Clinton would be a better Dem than Gore

Jay-z cripes that's funny!

[Ilsa]

6. Dynasties. Fux News has no imagination. eom

[Ganja Ninja]

7. I think Gore scares the piss out of them. n/t

[lpbk2713]

8. If they are all that close on a Faux poll we've got it made.

Looks like they are starting to see the writing on the wall. The rethuglican party has self-destructed. We owe Shit-for-Brains a debt of gratitude for all the help he has given us Dems.


Now where's the champaigne? I'm ready for 2008.

[warrens]

9. Remember the SNL skit about the Bears fans betting on Ditka?

Ditka alone beats the Giants 77-0, beats some other team 154-2, beats God 3-0 on a last minute field goal...

That's what this poll is all about.

[Nickster]

10. Yeahhhh, set the bar real nice and low for Jebbie.

Hey look, he doesn't stand a chance! See? We wouldn't run him,BUT if we did, you don't have anything in the world to be frightened of. Heck, he'd barely make it to the general election....then of course he'd just SQUEAK by in the general election to become the new President, but it wasn't a landslide, so there's really nothing to be worked up over Jebbie running. Ok? Now go back to sleep America, go back to sleep.....

[Grebrook]

11. Neither Giuliani nor McCain will win nomination

It'll be Brownback or George Allen, and they'll get creamed.

[TayTay]

12. Idiotic polling.

Nobody knows anything. These polls are all meaningless drivel that give Fox or any other news outlet an excuse to keep paying big bucks to consultants. These consultants don't know anything more than the average poster on DU and the polls are meaningless.

[thereismore]

13. "Bush" is a broadly recognized name by now.... fool me twice... nt

[Cosmocat]

14. Yeah ...

Frankly, Giuliani and McCain are long shots to make it out of the primaries ... Especially Giuliani ...

Despite moving to suck up to both the neo-cons and religous zeolots, McCain still does not have their support ... I just don't see how he does not get pimped out again ... I don't think the religious right will ever throw in with him, and I think the corporatists will get behind a guy like Allen ... And, Giuliani ... I know he is the current hypster, but a NYC mayor who stands on the wrong side of the two main, rally the sheeple wedge issues - abortion and gay rights ... Billy Grahams head will spin while he spits peas before he backs him ...

[Vidar]

15. Apparently they couldn't skew the results enough, so they left Clark out.

[conflictgirl]

16. Distraction alert! Distraction! Distraction!

No offense intended to the OP here, but the odds of any of those candidates - Rep or Dem - being the real nominee in TWO AND A HALF YEARS are totally slim. (Well, except maybe Jeb, but only because of his BFEE connections.) If you'll remember, two years before the 2000 elections people were expecting McCain to be a possible front-runner. In the '04 election, John Kerry was a dark horse for quite a while and Dean was out in front.

I for one do not believe the election process is honest, even at the primary level. But even assuming everything is just exactly it appears, the odds of any of these match-ups being the one we actually see in '08 are so low that I'm not going to give serious thought to them.

Instead I am focusing on the Congressional elections that are just six months away (!!). I am thinking about possible war with Iran, about Haditha, about a whole slew of indictments, and gas almost $3 a gallon and NSA wiretapping and more than 2600 American soldiers dead over this stupid war and and and...

I think these kinds of polls of candidate pairings that are unlikely to ever happen anyway is an incredible waste of time and a major distraction from much more important issues happening RIGHT NOW.

[pnwmom]

17. No way would Giulani, the adulterer with the mistress in the attic,

and the gay friends with the apartment,

beat the Al/Tipper combo.

Fox news has got to be kidding.

I would love for Giulani to be the nominee. Especially against Gore.

[LostinVA]

18. HAHAHHAHA -- who the hell did they poll?

Guiliani beating Gore? HAHAHHAHAHA.

Where's Kerry in the lineup? Clark?

What a bull poll...