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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:43 PM
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Is the GOP trying to provoke impeachment??
There is a theory out there that the higher-ups in the GOP are trying to provoke impeachment. I heard this over the radio the other day. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense.

The GOP may be willing to sacrifice the Bush administration and maybe even sacrifice the neocons in order to make a comeback in 2010.
There is some rumors that Karl Rove and other GOP political strategists are actually hoping that the Democrats move to impeach Bush and the entire administration. That way it may appear that the Democrats have a vendetta against the Republicans. It would reunite a divided GOP base and anger many independants that don't care about revenge; they just want the country to improve.

This may be why many in the DNC leadership have not started the impeachment call. They want to think about this a little. Pelosi said last month that impeachment is "off the table." And Howard Dean said there would be "at least an investigation" but he made no demand for impeachment yet.

Remember, this is politics. It's a chess game. The GOP, who doesn't seem to care about approval ratings lately, seems to be poised to sacrifice a few pawns to get in better position to make a bigger move. It's not a bad idea to be careful here. Theatrics only get you killed. The Democrats made critical errors the past 6 years underestimating the strategy of Karl Rove. You can hate his guts, but he is not a stupid man.

This is just my opinion and a theory by the way...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:46 PM
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1. No it's another wedge issue and a rallying cry for volunteers
They are just trying to divert the attention of their base away from continually leaving them holding the bag (abortion, Schiavo, ports deal, immigration) and also make this a referendum on W---basically voting for a Dem is a vote for impeachment and impeachment would mean (assuming conviction I guess but then that is too complicated so let's just say impeachment) no W in charge protecting you each and every day. Is THAT what you want? Do you WANT the terr'rists to attack us again?
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:55 PM
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4. You arn't looking at this right...
Bush cannot run for re-election. Therefore he is no longer valuable to the party...he is now liability. If I was the GOP, I would do everything I could to pin everything on Bush and then distance the party from him. And doesn't it appear as though that is what is happening? Bush is becoming a scapegoat. He's moving to the center, the party is backing away from him.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:52 PM
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2. I can't imagine this working...if true
Given that the Republicans voted to impeach Clinton. How outraged could they be, when they did the same thing for far less serious crimes?

We could play the "hypocrite" card.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:53 PM
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3. Crying that the Dem's will impeach is the only plan the GOP has
to save the November elections. Past stealing another election, which could be tough to do with so many of the polls so far apart. They need to suck a few of the fools back into the fold so at least the poll numbers are close enough that if they need to steal the election there is not outstanding poll to throw the whole election into question.

It like Hillary running for President are all GOP fabrications. More propaganda.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:11 PM
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7. Oh, my, look...just like those '04 exit polls, just like Dewey v. Truman
all the polls were wrong again! Geez, how about that?
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:06 PM
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5. I think he is trying to blackmail the republicans in Congress and he
would have a coup if he could pull it off and install himself and Dick as dictators.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:09 PM
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6. I Used to Think That Impeachment was Imperitive
but George is getting' stiffed from so many different quarters that he's rapidly losing his political power to do anything other than be a caretaker. A slow death might be the best setup for a big win in 2008.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 03:34 AM
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11. I agree
let him drown in his own mess, he will be out in a couple of years anyway.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:38 PM
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8. Reverse psychology, and it appears to be working.
All of a sudden it's not PC to talk about impeaching the little king. Why not? He's worse by the day and it's a long time till Jan. 2009. I get real tired of the congress crew pussy footing around every damn thing the GOP hands out as gospel. We've got 2468 dead soldiers because of his lies.....that's reason enough without the rest of the bushie bullshit.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 03:17 AM
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9. "It would reunite a divided GOP base and anger many independants . . .
that don't care about revenge; they just want the country to improve." . . .

doubtful, imo . . . most Independents AND a good hunk of the "Republican base" would like to see Bush gone . . .

revenge has nothing to do with it, and people know that . . . Americans are finally beginning to understand what BushCo is all about -- and they do NOT like it . . .
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 03:33 AM
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10. I wouldn't be surprised...
they are willing to sacrifice their own if can regain power. The repukes in control now are more devious and manipulative than has ever been seen before and are willing to do ANYTHING including murder to persevere in the end.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 03:53 AM
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12. They routinely throw their own under the bus...
I wouldn't put it past them.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 05:03 AM
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13. It has to be more than just impeachment. They have to face
war crime trials and sentenced!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:31 AM
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14. I've been saying that Republicans may call for impeachment soon
If Bush's poll numbers keep falling and are in the low to mid 20s by the end of the summer, some Republicans may decide that in order to save their political behinds, they may start calling for impeachment... or at least major investigations.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:52 AM
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15. It would give a new GOP president the advantage of incumbency
...going into 2008. That needs to be considered.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:56 AM
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16. If it suits their needs, they'll do it.
They eat their young when cornered.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 07:13 AM
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17. I think that's exactly what they want us to do.
They want us to impeach him ASAP after the 2006 elections. They will use the impeachment to rally the faithful for the 2008 elections.
I think the best way to deal with this is to investigate Bush right through the 2008 elections. Use him like a political pinata and then impeach him the day before inauguration day in January 2009.
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