SaveElmer
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Tue May-30-06 06:28 PM
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Almost 100 years since the last great Republican President... |
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Teddy Roosevelt..
Look at the Republican litany of failure since then
Harding Coolidge Hoover Nixon Ford Reagan Bush Bush
Only Eisenhower ranks above this tale of mediocrity and incompetence
Compare to the Democrats...
Wilson Franklin Roosevelt Truman Kennedy Johnson Clinton
And the one Democrat that maybe didn't have a successful Presidency goes on to become a world class humanitarian and NOBEL peace prize winner...Jimmy Carter
No wonder the Republicans are in such a foul mood all the time!!!
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Tue May-30-06 06:31 PM
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1. And the Republican response to this: |
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"Clinton! But he got a blow job!" Case closed!
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Tue May-30-06 06:33 PM
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3. Then Those That Say it Are Stupid |
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and should be treated as such.
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Tue May-30-06 08:31 PM
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13. They are stuck on stupid! nt |
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Tue May-30-06 06:32 PM
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2. Well define sucessful Presidency |
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Is it the furthering of the party of President's overall ideological goals?
Is it stewardship of the nation?
And in the above do we break it down into the sub groups of foreign and domestic policy?
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Tue May-30-06 06:39 PM
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5. I always base a Presidency... |
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On its overall impact...
Of course each of these men had flaws, each did something I disapproved of...but on balance are were successful in that the country was better off the day they left office than the day they entered it.
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Tue May-30-06 06:38 PM
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4. There was nothing wrong with Carter's presidency |
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The press destroyed him, but in fact he was head and shoulders above the slimeball who succeeded him.
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Tue May-30-06 06:40 PM
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I am partially basing this on public perception.
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Tue May-30-06 07:29 PM
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7. Quote "When they call the roll in the Senate, ..." |
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When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer "Present" or "Not guilty." – Theodore Roosevelt http://kenfran.tripod.com/teddy.htm
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Tue May-30-06 07:49 PM
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8. The guy did have a sense of humor... |
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Edited on Tue May-30-06 07:49 PM by SaveElmer
Probably would have been drummed out of the Republican Party by now...
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Tue May-30-06 07:51 PM
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9. And Teddy was pretty much a Democrat... |
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Tue May-30-06 07:56 PM
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10. I really can't forgive Johnson.... |
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but overall, yeah, the Democrats have a better record.
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Tue May-30-06 08:30 PM
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Tue May-30-06 08:31 PM
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12. How'd Johnson make that list? |
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hey hey LBJ how many kids did you kill today... ring any bells?
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Tue May-30-06 08:36 PM
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15. It's not that simple... |
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Certainly VietNam was a mistake, but Johnson did not pursue it for motivations of selfishness, greed, or to shore up the bottom line of his contributors. He was wrong to pursue it, but he did so because he thought it was what was necessary...and the stress of those decisions eventually killed him. Listen to some of the Johnson tapes and you can hear the anguish in some of them as he agonized over these decisions.
And domestically, he was more successful than FDR at getting social legislation through COngress...not to mention his heroic efforts on behalf of Civil Rights...
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Thu Jun-01-06 05:20 PM
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17. That's what I was wondering... |
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:shrug: Maybe the civil-rights thing? That doesn't really make up for it, though, does it?
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Tue May-30-06 08:33 PM
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14. Would Teddy be a Dem now? Or Ike? |
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I'd been thinking about that very thing.
It's telling that the yahoo group "Republicans for Integrity" have as their mascot Teddy. The Republicans for Kerry morphed into that group. I used to hang with them as their token Dem.
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Tue May-30-06 09:16 PM
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He is without question our most popular president. During Lincoln's time Republicans were the "liberals" and Democrats "conservatives". I don't know when the switch occurred? I grew up during the Eisenhower admin and he was geneally well respect. I saw an old interview with Eisenhower a few years ago and was reminded of his diginfied, candid and insightful personality. He spoke very negatively of war and miltarization saying the goal of our country should be to avoid war at all costs. Wilson was one of the worse in many ways, an ardent racist. The worse period of racism since before the Civil War occurred during the Wilson administration.
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Thu Jun-01-06 05:23 PM
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18. Hell, I considered Carter to be a successful president |
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He brought peace between Israel and Egypt, passed the Panama Canal Treaties, had a national energy program which was working, spoke out strongly for Human Rights, Preserved more land than any previous president due to the Alaskan Lands Bill and passed a strong Ethics bill for federal officials--there's more but that is a good start.
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