Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Have you read this Greg Palast article?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 08:02 PM
Original message
Have you read this Greg Palast article?
Interesting theory

quote.......
Bush Didn't Bungle Iraq, You Fools
THE MISSION WAS INDEED ACCOMPLISHED

The Guardian


And what did the USA want Iraq to do with Iraq's oil? The answer will surprise many of you: and it is uglier, more twisted, devilish and devious than anything imagined by the most conspiracy-addicted blogger. The answer can be found in a 323-page plan for Iraq's oil secretly drafted by the State Department. Our team got a hold of a copy; how, doesn't matter. The key thing is what's inside this thick Bush diktat: a directive to Iraqis to maintain a state oil company that will "enhance its relationship with OPEC."

Enhance its relationship with OPEC??? How strange: the government of the United States ordering Iraq to support the very OPEC oil cartel which is strangling our nation with outrageously high prices for crude.

Specifically, the system ordered up by the Bush cabal would keep a lid on Iraq's oil production -- limiting Iraq's oil pumping to the tight quota set by Saudi Arabia and the OPEC cartel.

end quote........

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=483&row=0
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:51 PM
Response to Original message
1. happy to give the 5th Nom n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:55 PM
Response to Original message
2. Yes and he's bang on
One of the few good Investigative Journalists out there.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. How did I get 10 GP votes
When only two of you responded? Funny, (not really) that things in Iraq are so bad. It makes you wonder if EVEN they can be this incompetent? Was this whole mess just to make money? They will turn on the oil spigots when they are damn ready?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. They love Kaos it's what they're about
Divide & Conquer

They want True Democracy in the Middle East like
I want a extra hole in my head.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. My heart is truly bleeding
I just finished reading Confessions of an Economic HitmanHave you read it? We killed Roldos of Ecuador & Torrijos of Panama. Chavez will be next. Saddam would not buy into our imperialism so he had to be removed. Iraq strategically is the prize......and * wanted it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #6
13. Not yet but I have read this great interview with him on DemocracyNow


John Perkins describes himself as a former economic hit man - a highly paid professional who cheated countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars.

20 years ago Perkins began writing a book with the working title, "Conscience of an Economic Hit Men."

Perkins writes, "The book was to be dedicated to the presidents of two countries, men who had been his clients whom I respected and thought of as kindred spirits - Jaime Roldós, president of Ecuador, and Omar Torrijos, president of Panama. Both had just died in fiery crashes. Their deaths were not accidental. They were assassinated because they opposed that fraternity of corporate, government, and banking heads whose goal is global empire. We Economic Hit Men failed to bring Roldós and Torrijos around, and the other type of hit men, the CIA-sanctioned jackals who were always right behind us, stepped in.

John Perkins goes on to write: "I was persuaded to stop writing that book. I started it four more times during the next twenty years. On each occasion, my decision to begin again was influenced by current world events: the U.S. invasion of Panama in 1980, the first Gulf War, Somalia, and the rise of Osama bin Laden. However, threats or bribes always convinced me to stop."

But now Perkins has finally published his story. The book is titled Confessions of an Economic Hit Man. John Perkins joins us now in our Firehouse studios.

More

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/09/1526251
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 11:05 PM
Response to Original message
5. These people are ruthless! They subvert Government! They are
ruining our democratic principles. I don't know if I can take anymore of this crapola which seems unending. How did Palast obtain this? I wonder how much it would coincide with the prospective plans of the unobtainable Cheney Energy Task Force Meetings?

KNR
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:02 AM
Response to Original message
7. So, 9/11 served OPEC's interests, and the terrorists just so happened to
come from biggest OPEC nation (most of them did), Saudi Arabia.

You do the math.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. And what did ** tell us to do on 912?
He told us to get in our cars and drive more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 06:46 AM
Response to Reply #8
16. Exactly. Excellent point.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:15 AM
Response to Original message
9. Yes, control of Iraq's oil was always the goal
And that's the same and only reason BushCo have now turned their attention to Iran. (Which was probably the ultimate goal all along.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 12:17 AM
Response to Original message
10. Okay that's it, get some MISSION ACCOMPLISHED stickers and put
Edited on Wed May-31-06 12:18 AM by genieroze
them on gas pumps!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. Now THAT is an excellent idea!
Because that's exactly what has happened.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. ROFLMAO !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 07:48 AM
Response to Original message
11. As long as Iraq markets thru OPEC, they must take payment in US dollars:
From Peter Dale Scott's "Drugs, Oil & War"

http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/%7Epdscott/opec.html

The US handled the quadrupling of oil prices in the 1970s by arranging, by means of secret agreements with the Saudis, for the recycling of petrodollars back into the US economy. The first of these deals assured a special and on-going Saudi stake in the health of the US dollar; the second secured continuing Saudi support for the pricing of all OPEC oil in dollars. <20> These two deals assured that the US economy would not be impoverished by OPEC oil price hikes. The heaviest burdens would be borne instead by the economies of less developed countries. <21>

From these developments emerged the twin phenomena, underlying 9/11, of triumphalist US unilateralism on the one hand, and global third-world indebtedness on the other. The secret deals increased US-Saudi interdependence at the expense of the international comity which had been the base for US prosperity since World War II. They also increased Saudi leverage on U.S. foreign policy, as was seen in the 1979 sale of F-15 fighter planes to Saudi Arabia, against strong Israeli opposition. <22> In particular they explain why George Bush moved so swiftly in 1990 to counter the threat posed by Saddam Hussein to U.S.-Saudi security in the Persian Gulf. The threat was not just that the US itself would lose oil from the Gulf, against which the U.S. was partially insured by the redundancy in world oil supplies. A bigger threat was that Saddam would become the dominant power in the Persian Gulf, directly controlling 20 percent of OPEC production and 25 percent of world oil reserves. <23
<snip>
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:11 PM
Response to Original message
14. Palast's 'Khan Job' mentions NSA pre-9/11 "policy shifts"
that scuttled investigations into Saudi funding of terror. At the same time pre-9/11 the NSA was also following a 'FirstFruits' program of tracking insiders and jounalists, not terrorists mind you.

Palast can help keep Robert Ebel, the CIA oil analyst, out of danger by BFEE since he writes in the UK.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 08:54 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC