Bush Military History Project--#2

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This extended report is being written as a journal at Democratic Underground. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=259x1337. I invite all who are intersted in studying and understanding this most disgraceful of Presidential military records to participate. I can be reached at [e-mail].
I urge everone reading this to read my demand to the USAF at http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/28/124119/186#2 for a detailed analysis of this situation. I'll be going over all this again.

There are 2 ways to look at Bush's papers: the first is to go to http://www.usatoday.com/news/2004-02-14-bush-docs.htm and print out all of Bush's papers, then put them into chronological order after dumping the duplicates. I did this long ago and when you do this you see why the Bush administration didn't. The other alternative is to buy the book Unfit Commander by Glenn Smith. Although the analysis in this book is very lame and incomplete, Smith does give us all of Bush's papers in chronological order. Soome of the references to papers I will give are not yet available on the internet--when referring to them I will give the page # from UC and describe them when an internet refernce is not available. Some of these are smoking guns. UC also gives transcripts of press conferences I will be referrring to

There are many important facts to understand when looking at Bush's records and trying to understand exactly what happened in the election of 2004.
Yesterdays point--that there's NO WAY that Bush and his aides don't know whether the CBS papers are real--needs to be reiterated because you need to know that to judge their response to the CBS papers.
Think about it in human terms: if someone came up to you with papers that they said proved that you were ordered to take a physical but didn't, suspended from duty for failing to keep up your units standards, and failing to take a required physical, how long would it take you to know if they were forged or not?? Thats right, you'd know the moment you looked at them whether they were real or not. You wouldn't have to check the fonts, you'd know right away because you'd know if the incidents these papers represent happened or not. Thats why we know for sure the fonts arguments are all smoke screens
George Bush knows whether he was ordered to take his physical or not, no question about it.. He also knows what his flight suspension order looked like and said. There is no believable scenario in which Bush doesn't know what his suspension order said and whether he was ordered to take his physical or not. There's no wiggle room for Bush at all on these two issues. He KNOWS whether the 2 CBS memos that represent orders to him are real or not. And he also knows that these 2 documents represent federal papers.
Therefore the Bush administrations denial that they can prove or disprove these papers is a comp-lete lie. Consider a press conference on Sep 10 2004
(from UC page 91)
Q: Scott, on the National guard documents do you have any suspicions about their authenticity?
McClellan: We don't know whether the documents were fabricated or are authentic.....
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Q:Are you guys doing an anlysis of your own about the documents, to see if theyre fake or not?
M:No, I don't know that we have any way to verify that. I mean these are serious allegaations and they are being looked into by others...
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Q: Were you duped, do you think?
M: Bill, thats assuming a lot of things. Like I said, we don't know whether the documents were fabricated or not...

This is a complete lie. Bush knew the minute he looked at the order to take the physical whether it was real or not because he knows whether he was ordered to take the physical or not. He knows whether the suspension order is real or not because he got a REAL suspenion order form Killian on 1 Aug 72 and knows what it said and looked like. Why is the White House pretending that they don't know these things and can't find out?

I'm going to let you in on a secret right at the start. Whether the CBS papers are real or not,Bush CAN'T have his record investigated, ANY official investigation will find all the broken rules and laws I'll be telling you about.
So the White House HAD to get the CBS Papers declared false without ANY official investigation at all. And thats just what they did.
Lets look at the order to take the phyaical again http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-09-09bushdocs.pdf Page 3
This is represents an official order from Col Jerry Killian to Lt George Bush, with letterhead of a federal unit, the 111th FIS, containing official USAF (TXANG) business and signed full signature by the 111th's commanding officer. This represents a FEDERAL document, as do the other CBS papers.
This is a VERY imporatnt point: the CBS opapers represent FEDERAL documents. Everybody talks around this point but nobody points out the obvious: Who's responsible to prove or disprove these papers?
Lets take a mini-civics quiz here:
>Who is responsible to verify or disprove official federal documenmts? Who has the power and the duty to maintain the integrity of public records? Who's word is final?
A)Bloggers
B)CBS
C} Mapes and Rather
D) The federal government, who maintains extensive facilities just for this and has the force of law to back it up
Yes, its the federal governments duty to maintain the integrity of its documents--not bloggers, not Rather and certainly not any bogus CBS "investigations." which prove nothing. All branches of the government have departments exclusively for this. In this case, the duty falls to the Inspector generals of the USAF, the TANG, the Pentagon and their respective law enforcement arms. And they have shirked their duty to the American Public in this matter from Day one.
Why WOULDN'T Bush and the Republicans want this investigated thoroughly and the criminals brought to justice. These papers, if forged, LIBEL Bush --and other TANG officers-- by creating a new incident in Bush's record--the order to take the physical and falsifying his suspension order. How could a forger think he could ring in a whole new--and critical--event in the life of George Bush and no one would notice? George BUsh and his aidesz have always known whether he was ordered to take the physical or not, his record has been gone over with a fine tooth comb by them. They know every detail. How could a forger think he could bring in a whole new thing and it would just get by?
And Bush has never denied he was ordered to take the physical and nether have his aides.
(UC Page 88) Press conference, Sep 9, 2004
Q Why did the President defy an order to get a physical in 1972?
McClellan: These are the same old recycled attacjks that we see everytime the President is up for re election.....It was well known that the President was going to work in Alabama and seeking a transfer to perform equivalent duty in a nonflying status, And thst what he was doing.
Q: This was a direct ordee he defied, right? I mean he did have a direct order that he defied?
M: John, these issues come up every year. This was all part of the records--that he was ssking a transfer to a unit in Alabama because he was going to work in a civilian capcity. And he was granted permission to do so. And he was proud of his servicer and he was honorably discharged in October '73, after meeting his obligations.
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Q: I'm just wondering, even if these were old charges, and even if the President was honorably discharged, did he or did he not defy an order to get that physical?
M: Holly, again, these are the same kind of rscycled attackis the Democrats are trying to engage in. The President fullfilled all his obligations and that is why he was hionorably discharged from the National Guard in Oct '73. He was given permission to perform equivalent duty in Alabama and he met his obligations and he met5 his obligations when he returned to Texxas. And he met his obligations when he was in Texas prior to going to Alabama.

McClellan never did answer the question, did he? And neither did Bush. NONE of this is a denial that Bush was ordered to take the Physical.
Bush and his aides have never answered that simple yes or no question as to whether he wsas ordered to take the physical or not. yet they undoubtedly and assuredly know whether he was or not.
McClellan is flatout lying here and scrambling the record to make it look like Bush's transfer to Al was done with his superiors approval. The record shows, and I will prove, that the day Bush was suspended from flying (Aug 1 '72) there WAS no transfer to AL existing, he had appled in MAy and was turned down (Page 254 UC: "...a review of his Master Personnel Record shows he has a Military Service Obligation.....An obligated reservist can be assigned to a specific Ready Reserve position only. Therefore he is ineligible for asignment to an Air Reserve Squadron date stamped June 21, 1972)
So how'd he get an transfer to Alabama in Sep when he had beeen tturned down previously for the same thing? It was an illegal transfer, in which higher HQ was not notified. We'll be talking about this soon.

Now lets look at the Suspension document of the CBS Papers. (same reference as above.
page 5)
George Bush knows right now whether this is real or not because George Bush WAS given a suspension order by Col Killian on 1st Aug 72. So he knows if this is the real one--and he knows that the real one is missing from his records.
There are 2 confirmation documents for this, and (Page256 UC)a Sep 5 document signed by Col Bobby Hodges (Group commander) and Maj Rufus Martin (personnel officer, signed sep 19) "...In accordance with para 2-29m, AFM 35-13, failure to acccomplish annual medical exsamination, 1st Lt George W Bush is suspended from flying status effective date 1 Aug 72...."
Why do we know that the Sep 5th document is not the original order? Look at the confirmation document above: "...Verbal orders of the Cmdr on 1 Aug 1972 suspending 1st Lt George W Bush....are confirmed..." That means that SOMEONE gave George W Bush a suspension order on 1st Aug 72--and it wasn't Hodges.
Lets look at the regulatory framework in which the suspension order was written and here it is thanks to our friend Paul Lukasiak: http://www.glcq.com/regs/35-13_1971.pdf
"AFM 35-13, para 2-29m: ...All rated officers on flight status must accomplish a medical examinstion annually or biannually (flight surgeons...Failure to accomplish a required medical examination disqualifies the officer from flight duty and he will be suspended effective the first day of the month following his birth month...."
AFM35-13, para 2-10b: "Particular care must be taken to insure that the individual receives flying staus orders on or before the efffective date..."
AFM35-13, para 2-10b2: "CBPO-SA will insure that the unit opersonnel record copy of an aeronautical order which ....imposes or revokes a supension...will be acknowledged by the person concerned to indicate time and date of the receipt of orders..."
Bush was born in July, that means the effective date would be 1st Aug 1972. Killian HAD to suspend him on that date, he had no choice by this regulation. He had to notify Bush on or before the efffective date. And there should be a signed copy of this order in Bush's files and an acknowlegement of receipt of orders. AND THERE'S NOT!!
Hodges order dated Sep 5th CAN'T be the original order, its dated over a month after th event and the orders were required to be ready "on or before" the effective date--there's al;so nothing about "verbal orders being given" in Hodges confirmation.
the order was ginve verbally, i.e. face to face but there was a paper copy of that verbal order and George Bush was given a copy. Theree should be a copy of that order in his files--and there's not. We have the 2 confirmation documents but not the document theyre confirming.
Thats what Unfit commander shows you, one of the things. There is no copy of this order in Bush's files.
The CBS memo copy of that order is the only representation of that order yet to emerge. And George Bush knows right now whether its real or not and always has. And George Bush knows right now that its missing from his files--so do his aides.
Guess who else knows this? try Bobby Hodges, Rufus Martin and Francis Greenlief, all of whom signed the confirmation documents and all of whom saw the original order.
To be continued.

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