Help, please. Need a list of Repub indictments.

[DLnyc]

At a recent family discussion, one person opined that rethugs are no more corrupt than dems. I said I would love to play a game where we matched indictments and convictions, mine coming from a rethug list and his from a dem list.

Can anyone direct me to a list of indictments and convictions of the current group of criminals who have hijacked our government?

Also, to be fair, is there a list of Clinton era criminals? I could only think of Jim Wright and Cisneros.

[babylonsister]

1. There's so many! Here's some links you can weed through:

http://www.democrats.org/a/national/honest_government/abuse_of_power/

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/24/64643/0354

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/gopscorecard.htm

[DLnyc]

4. Thanks.

I'm printing up the WM list now.

(on edit: Hope I don't run out of paper!)

[madinmaryland]

2. Try checking out the Research Forum on DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=358

:hi:

[DLnyc]

7. thanks for suggestion

I just tried that, but I think I need to spend some time learning how to use it better.

[zbdent]

3. How much you want to bet that

your "opponent" tries to throw in the "Clinton Death List"?

:eyes:

[DLnyc]

5. He's not that rabid;

Just the sort of 'trying to provide balance' basically smart and decent guy. He actually had to smile when I proposed the game, as he obviously saw he would lose big time!

[jobycom]

6. Depends on what you want. Here's a discussion on Reagan.

It depends on how you want to define it. Are you only looking for presidential scandals, or all scandals involving politicians at the federal level, or just all big-name political figures? Also, what time frame? The worst presidential administrations were all Republicans, but before Bush, Nixon and Reagan the party affiliations weren't as meaningful. Warren G Harding was a Republican, for instance, but the parties were different then. I don't agree that the Republicans were the liberals back then (Harding was reportedly a member of the KKK, as was Wilson, a Democrat), but the issues were different.

When you get down to the state and local offices, it usually depends on who is in power. Power draws corruption, so the part that has a lock on elections is going to draw the most corrupt people. In Texas during the fifties there were a lot of corrupt Democrats, and the Repubs were probably more pure, since only true believers would have bothered being Republican. Now that's reversed.

I don't frankly see how it matters which party has had the most convictions, so much as which ideology has the best record of results. Liberals (not necessarily Democrats) were against segregation, apartheid, slavery, McCarthyism, the Viet Nam and Iraqi invasions, tax cuts targeted only at the wealthiest, etc. Conservatives (sometimes Democrats) were for those things, and against women's suffrage. Liberals were trying to fight Fascism while conservatives like Henry Ford, Father Coughlin (30s version of Rush Limbaugh/Jerry Falwell), Prescott Bush and Charles Lindbergh were actively supporting them. Liberals are more often right, and whichever party is the most liberal most often advances the causes of humanity, while conservatives hold it back.

But as for corrupt presidencies, the Republicans, especially in the current era, take the cake. And that's despite the fact that the Republicans spend more time trying to smear their opponents, since they can't win on the issues.

http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/Reagan.html

"By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."

LONG list follows (see link)

[DLnyc]

8. Very nice. Thanks.

Printing up part of it now.