What is the worst thing any Bushist said about Al Gore?

[BurtWorm]

Or what is the worst thing Bush said about Democrats?

A right winger proposed this challenge wrongly, demanding to know the worst Bush himself said of Gore. But as Gore wasn't making any charge against Bush specifically but against his administration, the challenge should really be either of the above alternatives.

Anyone game to go looking? I'm betting you'll find someone calling Bush or the Democrats something akin to "terrorists" or "traitors."


http://www.seixon.com/blog/archives/2006/05/al_gore_word_as.html


May 31, 2006
Al Gore Word Association

I want to propose a challenge.

Al Gore has just called the Bush administration "a renegade band of rightwing extremists". Gore has flirted with calling the Bush administration Nazis, such as two years ago when he said the "administration works closely with a network of rapid-response digital Brown Shirts".

Now, what's the worst thing George W. Bush has said about Al Gore? Has he called him a "left-wing extremist" or used Nazi innuendo?

I'd love to hear the nastiest thing Bush ever said about Gore.

[ThomWV]

1. That he beat him in 2000

[VolcanoJen]

That's beautiful.

:-)

[Dr Fate]

2. He had his media henchman spread many lies about Gore.

One of the big ones was the claim that Al Gore said he invented the internet- which was a lie- Gore never claimed to invent the internet.

For every lie that Bush has told about Gore, Gore has made TRUTHFUL statements about Bush- and this seems to be what upsets Bush/media.

[Touchdown]

17. He DID say it.

Find his 2000 RNC acceptance speech. I remember it like it was yesterday (which is before I found this place). I'm positive he said ..."And when he invented the internet..." then the audience full of cult members cheers.

[Dr Fate]

18. You mean Bush is a liar? What a SUPRISE! n/t

n/t

[Hoping4Change]

26. Your wrong. Please get the facts straight.

"Gore never claimed that he "invented" the Internet, which implies that he engineered the technology. The invention occurred in the seventies and allowed scientists in the Defense Department to communicate with each other. In a March 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer, Gore said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."


Taken in context, the sentence, despite some initial ambiguity, means that as a congressman Gore promoted the system we enjoy today, not that he could patent the science, though that's how the quotation has been manipulated. Hence the disingenuous substitution of "inventing" for the actual language.


But the real question is what, if anything, did Gore actually do to create the modern Internet?


According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator."


The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today."


Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?"



http://www.perkel.com/politics/gore/internet.htm
"The unfortunate thing about this world is that good habits are so much easier to give up than bad ones." W.S. Maugham

[Touchdown]

28. Your wrong. Please comprehend writing.

I was writing about BUSH, not GORE. I was replying to a post that wondered if Bush ever smeared Gore with that, and I remember BUSH saying it in his acceptance speech.

What, do you think I'm so dumb as to believe that propaganda in this late date?

Get over yourself! "Please get facts straight" ...Please get stuffed!:eyes:

BTW: He was a Senator, not a congressman.

[AValdoux]

3. The tricky part of that question

Bush is always kept clean. With Rush, Hannity, Coulter, etc he doesn't have to say anything.

I hope Gore doesn't run again but decides to become the GOP's worst nightmare. He seems to enjoy being on the offensive now. I say "Give em hell". The GOP has taken their best shots at him, I say "Bring it on" & Gore should keep speaking his mind.

AValdoux

[hfojvt]

9. Not just them. That is the worst part.

Gore was also attacked and spun by supposed mainstream pundits - Dowd, Russert, Matthews, and NYT, Boston Globe, and WaPo political "reporters."

[jobycom]

4. Bush was behind the attacks on Gore, whether he personally said them or no

Rush used to call Gore delusional or mentally ill. The Bush team would claim Gore had made some exageration or told some lie (in every case that I know of, Gore had not, and the Republicans had lied to claim he did), and Rush would opine that Gore had to be mentally ill or delusional in the extreme to believe it. Rush would take the position that he had serious questions about Gore's sanity, claiming that Gore actually believed all of his "exagerations."

[MemphisTiger]

5. Rush was just high again

[jobycom]

8. Probably, but he was part of a coordinated message to portray Gore

as dishonest and frightening, knowing that if they only battled Gore on the issues, they would lose more than they did.

[hfojvt]

6. Bush is often a little bit more subtle

He does not come out and say "Al Gore is a name-calling hypocrite" but he implies it:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/h051401_1.shtml

"HALLOW (4/27/00): Bush participated in three discussions with female leaders on bringing "compassion and responsibility" to education.

Last night, he also went after Mr. Gore’s reputation as a dirty fighter.

"My opponent is an integral part of an administration that has waged the same old Washington blame game," he said. "He speaks of the ‘extra chromosome right wing.’ Anyone who disagrees with him is labeled ‘risky’ or ‘radical’ or ‘reckless’…

"But it does not have to be this way," Mr. Bush said. "We are not all the same. I will set a different tone. I will restore civility and respect to our national politics." "

...

""I will change the tone," Bush said. To do so, he brought up a single, six-year-old statement and pretended that Gore spoke that way all the time. During this period, by the way, the Washington Post’s Terry Neal occasionally did something very naughty; knees almost perceptibly knocking, he timidly offered the thought that Bush himself was being quite negative when he said things of this kind. But Neal was almost alone in this insight. The rest of the press typed the tale just as scripted; Gore was nasty, negative, naughty, Bush was above all that mess."

[sweetheart]

7. In another time, it would be settled by combat

Gore in one corner, Bush in another, 2 go in, 1 comes out.

Gore in 2008.

[ourbluenation]

10. I just added my two cents....that was fun! eom

[Aristus]

11. Gore is his own man. Not afraid to tell the truth.

Bush is a panty-waist, hypocritical, yellow-bellied coward who has always gotten others to do his fighting and his dirty-work for him. If Bush has never said something bad about Gore directly, it's because he hasn't had to. His repuke puppetmasters and the media do it all for him, allowing him to look "Presidential". And he STILL fails to do THAT!

[Gabi Hayes]

12. how bout explicit Nazi comparisons?

Exxon-Backed Pundit Compares Gore To Nazi Propagandist
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/23/gore-movie-g/

Sterling Burnett is a senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, an organization that has received over $390,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. This afternoon on Fox, Burnett compared watching Al Gore’s movie, An Inconvenient Truth, to watching a movie by Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels to learn about Nazi Germany. Watch it:

ExxonMobil doesn’t have a substantive answer to Gore’s movie, so it bankrolls people like Burnett to smear Gore personally.

Dutifully, Burnett recently wrote an editorial defending former Exxon CEO Lee Raymond’s lavish compensation (which amounted to $190,000 a day in 2005). He failed to mention his financial connection to the company.




Transcript:

That’s the problem. If I thought Al Gore’s movie was as you like to say, fair and balanced, I’d say, everyone should go see it. But why go see propaganda? You don’t go see Joseph Goebbels’ films to see the truth about Nazi Germany. You don’t go see Al Gore’s films to see the truth about global warming.

watch this overfed hog trough wallower right here:


http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/goresmear.320.240.mov

[BurtWorm]

13. Touche!

:toast:

[ladjf]

14. A couple of days ago, Don Imus used his famous "He's just a

horrible person" remark. He had said the same thing about Carter. That, apparently, is his favorite brilliant smack down that he saves for the very best people we have. He loves McCain and Lieberman.

[BurtWorm]

15. That's rich, coming from that piece of shit.

:eyes:

[On the Road]

16. This is a Tricky Question

because as you point out, the things said about Gore were not quite as bad as the things Gore has said about Bush.

However, the things said about Gore were MUCH more damaging. He was called delusional and a serial exaggerator. He was called cold, unlikeable, robotic. His character was called into question with such regularity that people started to believe it. And worst of all, the charges were all demonstrable lies.

Democrats need to learn this. Making a political charge goes right over the heads of many people and leaves their opinions unscathed. It's just politics. But depicting someone as imbalanced, greedy, or personally distasteful is often much more effective even if the specifics in themselves are minor.

Republicans are much better at this kind of mudslinging. It's hard to defend against, but IMO it's single biggest factor in winning presidency in 08, no matter who runs.

[Gabi Hayes]

19. so I guess you didn't see/read the link in which a CEI whore compared

Gore to GOEBBELS?

that's not as bad, exactly, as WHAT Gore said about any Pug, ever?

[On the Road]

23. In the OP, There Were Several Versions of the Question

I was picking up on the last three sentences:

"Now, what's the worst thing George W. Bush has said about Al Gore? Has he called him a "left-wing extremist" or used Nazi innuendo? I'd love to hear the nastiest thing Bush ever said about Gore.

To my knowledge, Bush has not publicly attacked Gore in anything like the way Al has criticized the administration.

The attacks on Gore have come primarily from the media and been indirect and diffuse. It's not like Gore has enemies so much as there is a lot of anonymous whispering (as in "some people would say that Gore has a problem with the truth"), which is more insidious than man-to-man criticism.

What I was referring to in the previous post was that attacks on sanity and character are often much more destruction than charges of political extremism.

[BurtWorm]

24. I thought your point was well taken.

I understood what you were saying. Bush is very capable of tossing casual insults at people who have no political power, but he has somehow been trained not to do it to people who have power or who he's running against. He leaves that to his surrogates, and they attack people's mental health or moral integrity. They may not accuse anyone of being criminal (though they did make some hay with the Buddhist monk shit in 2000), but they attack their opponents' honesty relentlessly. They don't say "He's a liar." They say, "He has an apparent problem being truthful," implying it's a mental condition. It's sick what they do. They have an apparent problem not being sadistic and sociopathic.

[Kelvin Mace]

20. "We rule for the plaintiff"

The Scalia Five in Bush v. Gore

[Swamp Rat]

21. That's one of the worst things said and done to every American

[helderheid]

22. Swear I read Buddhist instead of Bushist. I haven't even begin drinking.

[JHB]

25. That Al Gore tried to steal the 2000 election

The usual suspects even wrote a book about Al's "attempted theft".

[Lisa]

27. during the recount, they compared him to Sharon Stone's character ...

... in the "Basic Instinct" movie. A very nasty person who kills people?

McCain recently called Al Sharpton an "extremist".

[elehhhhna]

29. One thing's for certain; It came from Barbara Bush's mouth. Guaranteed!

"Now THAT woman knows how to hate." Richard Nixon on Babs Bush