When republicans can crack jokes about Haditha & justify it, well,

[Philosoraptor]

It's too late for them, they've sunk to the level of the---oops, better not say it.

I've already heard and read some of the right wing crazy's slant on the Haditha massacre, and they make all the usual sickening and arrogant comments about heathens, sub humans, terrorists, eliminating them all one by one, or flat out nuking the whole nation.

And they ain't kidding. We here are repulsed by the stories we've heard, while they immediately set about justifying it and cracking vulgar jokes.

When they've sunk to the level that they can be so cavalier about atrocities against children, they aren't quite human anymore, they've become zombies to their beliefs.

We recoil in horror. They smirk and brag and yell "Hooah"! and spit in the face of the world.

They make all us Americans look bad.

[kenny blankenship]

1. Just don't compare them to Nazis!

Because...because...
Well I'm not sure exactly why not, but just don't do it.

[Avalux]

12. I'll do it - they are just as bad as Nazis.

And yes, they are too far gone; loyalty to the fascists in power above and beyond all else.

[marylanddem]

17. they are closer to nazi than to human, that's for sure

i don't understand why the nazi comparisons upset people so much.

[Fridays Child]

2. Where have you read these comments? Fr** R*public?

The owner will usually pull threads like that but only if they garner attention from outside the site. When the world rightfully exposes him as a dangerous extremist, he shrinks from the light like a vampire.

[Kipling]

15. Here are a few samplers:

If the citizenry of Haiditha is sitting idly by while a terrorist element in their midst is killing American soldiers and the citizens do nothing about it then they are no better than the people of Dresden and they deserve the same fate. - nonliberal

I think most people have left that mentality behind and most Americans have felt frustrated enough by the situation our men face there, with criminals setting mines and blending into the population, that they will sympathize with these Marines. - Jim Curtis

It is a war. People, including innocents, get killed in war. The Marines are not playing a video game with "time outs for a do-over. - Recovering Ex-Hippie

And while that provocation may not have been enough to justify the wanton murder of innocent Iraqis, it's far from clear at this point that all of those killed were indeed innocent. Or that any innocents who did die were killed in cold blood. - newsmax.com

[mmonk]

18. This gets me.

" it's far from clear at this point that all of those killed were indeed innocent. Or that any innocents who did die were killed in cold blood. - newsmax.com"

Do babies set land mines?

[Fridays Child]

20. Isn't it interesting that the same people who cited the killing of...

...innocent children as a justification for the first Iraq war now sympathize with baby killers? And it's all the more breathtakingly hypocritical when you consider that the story of Kuwaiti infants being torn from incubators was proven false while the Haditha massacre is real.

[anarch]

22. I like the mention of Dresden in there...real nice

Dresden being basically a non-military target that was bombed into flames and rubble just to demoralize the German population, with very little or no actual strategic gain for the Allies.

Aside from that, who was it that started the war of aggression this time around? It seems to me that what they ought to be saying is that these Haditha civilians are no better than the people of Warsaw, who clearly deserved what they got at the hands of the Luftwaffe and the 8th Army in '39.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

3. Kicked and Recommended

[Warpy]

4. "UNCHRISTIAN"

is the only word to apply to them if you run into one in real life.

Trust me, it packs a wallop.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. They are wedded to the idea of "untermenschen".

Only good (preferably white) Americans are deserving of respect, honor, or even life.

"It is often claimed, especially in British and American discourse on Nazism, that the usage of "Untermensch" was commonplace in Nazi propaganda and writings, referring to any kind of social group considered inferior or deletrious to German society as a whole. In this sense, "Untermenschen" might designate such diverse groups as Jews, Gypsies, Altaic peoples or Africans, and asocial element, as well as the mentally or physically disabled, homosexuals, criminals, prostitutes, beggars, tramps, leftists, liberals, political dissidents, Jehovah's Witnesses and so-called morally degenerates."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

[On the Road]

9. You'll Never Hear Them Say That,

but if it walk like a duck...

I can't understand the levity either. But the US is a very callous country toward the suffering of others.

[gordianot]

14. They are equally callous with the suffering of their own.

[underpants]

13. Untermensch

Wow that sums them up perfectly.

Thanks

[PublicWrath]

21. British officers in Basra said US troops were treating the Iragis like

untermenschen, that is exactly the word they used. They were scandalized by the way US troops were retaliating for strikes on the green zone, for one thing, and said many US troops treated Iraqis like subhumans. This article came out on April 11, 2004, just a couple of weeks before the Abu Ghraib scandal broke:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/04/11/wtact11.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/04/11/ixnewstop.html
US tactics condemned by British officers

[gatorboy]

6. How quick their opinion changes.

All I heard from the right was how much the Iraqis loved us for bringing them liberties...Now they want them nukes into oblivion.

Re-pugs just can't make up their minds...

[stepnw1f]

7. I'll Say It... EVIL (nt)

[cascadiance]

8. Then it's proof that the "Body Snatchers" have invaded!

As a caller on Mike Malloy's show noted last night, I think there's something "taking over" the bodies of these Wingnuts... I can't really see that they are human beings any more! Be careful going next to blooming flowers folks!

[Ringo84]

10. That's OK

Let them go. It's more ammo for us.

It also serves to show fellow Americans how morally bankrupt this regime and its supporters have become. We're the moral ones. They torture, take away civil rights, and kill innocent civilians. We win.
Ringo

[gordianot]

11. It is not a matter of becoming, sinking, decline, or rigid dogma.

They are what they are, they developed in that manner over an extended period of time. To voice that you support shooting children, raping, pillaging or using a nuclear weapons means nothing to them, they are all talk on a personal level but are killers in the abstract.

The arrested development of Republicans have convinced me that evolution may be a dead end for our species, they are on par with their fellow terrorist they allege they hate and are beneath those murdered.

[glitch]

26. Definitely beyond their extinct-by date.

But that doesn't mean the human race is deadended, just because some members chose to stop evolving (awhile ago).

An evolutionary step doesn't happen all at once for every member, in one generation.

(in other words, cheer up. maybe.)

[ShadesOfGrey]

16. I looked at a RW bullitin board concerning this yesterday...

They sure as hell "Shocked and Awed" me!

I weep for what this country has lost!!!

[theHandpuppet]

19. Doesn't surprise me in the least

All they ever yell about is killing.

This is an entry in my DU Journal which was originally posted after I came back from a vigil at Camp Casey:

RW hatemongering mouthpiece encourages, "Blow them all away!"
Posted by theHandpuppet in General Discussion (Through 2005)
Wed Aug 17th 2005, 12:49 PM

Okay, perhaps someone else in the East Texas-Ark-Western Tenneessee area had the unfortunate experience of hearing some radio "hosts" talking about the yahoo who was testing his shotgun near Camp Casey, touting him as a hero. Not only that, he (they) kept yelling over the airwaves, "Blow them away! Blow them all away! That's what I'd do -- blow them all away! Blow 'em away!" regarding those supporting Cindy.

I only happened to catch this because I was on the road and desperately station surfing, having left the broadcast range of Air America - Dallas. (frankly, I thought I was going to lose my mind trying to find anything between Dallas and Cincinnati which wasn't either RW hate radio or Christian extremist hate-preaching radio.These folks are being brainwashed 24/7!)

Anyway, the reception was scratchy but when I tripped across this tirade I couldn't believe my ears. The program was broadcast somewhere around 8 pm, I believe, and I was receiving it just outside Memphis, Tenn.

Isn't this kind of call to murder against FCC rules? If so, couldn't these actions be grounds for revoking a license? Is there anyone here who might know which program I'm talking about? I can't be sure, but I believe it was the same station that was airing Michael Savage and Neil Boortz (sp?) As I said, I was channel surfing and the reception was bad, so I didn't get the call letters of the station.

BTW, this was broadcast the same day the soldier's memorial at Camp Casey was destroyed.

[RobertSeattle]

23. Of course they never consider the oppositve

What if an Iraqi soldier had killed 24 innocent civilian Americans?

In their arithmetic, the death of an American is 100x that of an Iraqi.

[BlooInBloo]

25. 100x? ROFL!!! Off by several orders of magnitude.... at LEAST.

[RobertSeattle]

31. Not sure if I am that far off "newswise"

If 1 Iraqi dies in a car bomb - doesn't make the news in the US.

If 10 Iraqi die in a car bomb - might make the news

If 100 Iraq's die in a car bomb - makes the news

But if 1 American in Iraq dies, it definitely makes the news.

[RagAss]

24. be warned.....They'll kill our children the same way when the time comes..

Be warned.....you can tell by their posts...given the chance...given the "wink" ....they will wipe us off the face of the earth...they are brought into this hate...and we spend our time hoping we can convince people of a better way....it ain't working....

[ComerPerro]

27. And yet, we went into Iraq (supposedly) because of Saddam's

horrible crimes against humanity...

[Philosoraptor]

28. Saddam had torture rooms, he killed babies, he invaded a nation!

Those were the good ol days.

[Canuckistanian]

29. And yet, we're supposed to be horrified by American deaths

Or the deaths of victims of jihadism. What does it matter who died or how they died?

They're still dead - and every unnecessary death is and should be a crime.

[many a good man]

30. American character

Let me repost a quote Beelzebud cited a few weeks ago from Hunter S. Thompson:

Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who
among us can be happy and proud of having this
innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine?
These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and
fooled by stupid rich kids like George Bush?
They are the same ones who wanted to have Muhammad Ali
locked up for refusing to kill gooks. They speak for
all that is cruel and stupid and vicious in the
American character. They are the racists and hate
mongers among us--they are the Ku Klux Klan. I piss
down the throats of these Nazis.

And I am too old to worry about whether they like it
or not. Fuck them.

-Hunter S. Thompson