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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:12 PM
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Oprah, I'm Worried About You
more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/my-letter-to-o-oprah-i_b_13762.html

My Letter to O: Oprah, I'm Worried About You
R J Eskow

Oprah, I'm a huge fan of your literacy work. You're under fire now over this Frey thing, but I've got good news: help is out there for people like you, too - the ones who get things done, who love too much, who are overachievers, who organize the lives of alcoholics, addicts, and con men.

You know, enablers.

Everyone knows the Frey story now - how he spun a drunk driving arrest (which apparently consisted of five hours sitting at a folding table in the police station) and a rehab stint into a myth of hardened criminality and crack addiction. How you made him rich and famous by endorsing his book - a gritty true-life tale of violence, sin, and redemption through his owniron will. How that book turned out to be a fraud in all of its basics. (I'm late to post on this, but I've been travelling - and by the way, Frey's book was sold out at the airport bookstores.)

I'm not worried about Jimmy Frey. He's obviously a survivor - whether or not he's an addict. But I'm worried about the ones out there who are still sick and suffering from addiction and alcoholism, and their families. And Oprah, I'm worried about you.

Hey, don't feel bad. Enabling addicts is itself a kind of addiction and it's hard to let go of it.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:16 PM
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1. PS - Please send me a million dollars.
n/t
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:23 PM
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2. I am about Oprahed out myself
truly getting sick and tired of her
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:27 PM
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3. Oprah's pimping Dr. Phil was enough for me
:eyes:
In the grand scheme of my life Oprah means exactly nothing.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:36 PM
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4. I pretty much stopped watching her about that time.
I couldn't stand him, and I grew weary of her. Now, I just don't care.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:36 PM
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5. Oprah does NOT like Dr. Phil anymore
Ever since he took off the nice mask and turned into Mr. Megalomaniac Misogynist. There is no love lost between them, trust me.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:43 PM
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15. I used to like Dr Phil until he dissed Medea Benjamin
over Code Pink and protests against the IW. I have watched him since then.

I figured it was karmic when he got sued over his crooked dealings over the diet program.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:39 PM
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6. Maybe I'm oblivious but...
Who the hell is Frey? I've been hearing about this guy and his book all day long, but nobody's telling me who he is!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:43 PM
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16. He is an author who wrote the supposedly non-fiction
book called "Million little pieces". There appears to be a lot of fiction in it.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:54 PM
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23. I know he wrote that book. But who IS he?
If Joe Shmoe writes a book and then some of the "facts" in it turn out to be false, it's not such a big deal. But when CNN obssesses about it for a day, that means that the author was known for something before he wrote the book. Know what I mean?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:56 PM
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24. I think if Joe Shmoe writes a book, Oprah promotes it,
and the book sells millions of copies, it doesn't matter if the author was known for something or not. It's the fact that the book is on the bestsellers list, and Oprah and others cried over hard life Mr. Frey had, which turned out not to be so hard after all.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:05 PM
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28. It turns out he IS just Joe Shmoe.
Just read a short bio on him. He wrote for movies before he wrote his book. He's only 32, so he really hasn't had much time for a history.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:06 PM
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30. I know he was not anyone famous before he wrote the book.
Well, he is now.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:52 PM
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7. Frey is obviously pathological
I am very disappointed that Oprah is defending this fraud. If his book is good, why not just market it as the work of fiction that it was?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:51 PM
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21. No one would even publish it as fiction.
I guess he tried numerous publishing agencies and no one would bite. Until the declared it non-fiction.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:12 PM
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34. Wow
That's incredible. I haven't read it, but it sounds like maybe he isn't such a great writer, since nobody would buy it on craftsmanship alone.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:17 PM
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38. I think if it was a complete crap, nobody would read it either,
regardless of if it was presented as fiction or not.
But it's also highly unlikely it would have had the success it did if it was presented as a fictional book.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:00 PM
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8. Oprah is a good person
who just got too much money, power, influence. She tries to do a good job but reaches too far and people expect too much.

I have a colleague who seriously wants her to run for President.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:12 PM
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12. Oprah IS good, but persona is overdone-she obviously loves
to talk and hear herself talk-alot. Not every word that issues from her tongue is worth hearing.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:17 PM
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13. Agreed
and she is over-exposed, as well.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:52 PM
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22. She is definitely over exposed.
Her name is basically synonymous with Goddess, which she is not. She is just a person. LOL.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:02 PM
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9. All this Frey stuff is much ado about nothing.
There are thousands of books with exaggerations and changed facts. Ask yourself why is this one such a big deal at this point in time. The book has been out for a while. Most of the money that was to be made has already been made. Why bring up this distraction now?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:46 PM
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19. This one was supposed to be non-fiction, turns out it wasn't.
Basically, it wasn't publishable as fiction, but had great success as non-fiction. Whether it should be as big deal as it is-I don't think so. But that's neither here nor there.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:09 PM
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33. It isn't distraction, at least no to us. To you maybe. This was HEAVILY
promoted by Oprah as gritty, important work of nonfiction, which just so happens turns out to be happy horseshit. TSG's expose just came out within the last week or so. That would make it current in my book.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:32 PM
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40. How does the fact that there are embellishments affect the power ...
of the story. To anyone that was not involved it was a story anyway. Does it have less power if was embellished? Does it move you in a different way? This is a story of finding strength to overcome oneself, doesn't every bit of that still apply? It was NEVER anything more than a story.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:47 PM
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42. Because the story would not be near as powerful as fiction.
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 07:49 PM by lizzy
Do you think Oprah would have had this book as her book of the month if it was about some fictional character? It was the fact that Mr. Frey himself had persevered and overcame that made this book the success it was, and it would have not happened if people knew otherwise, IMO.
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:02 PM
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10. You poor reality-based lefties
You will never understand "emotional truth." But St. Oprah continues to love you and pray for you.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:04 PM
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11. I'll never forget Oprah's shows on Hurricane Katrina and the look
of horror on her face when she went into the dome..
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:41 PM
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14. "My God," she thought,
"My makeup will look TERRIBLE in this light!"
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:44 PM
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17. Your kidding, right?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:38 PM
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41. Honestly, I was more impressed with Anderson Cooper.
I am not one who is wowed by Oprah. I know a lot of people like and admire her, but she can be just as fraudulent at times as the James Frey (who has written two wonderful books, IMO)
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:45 PM
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18. Why is everyone bashing Oprah?
I guess I'm a bit confused.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:50 PM
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20. Because of Mr. Frey and his book.
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 05:54 PM by lizzy
Oprah has been promoting Mr. Frey's book as non-fiction. It turned out to be very much fictional, but Oprah still supports Mr. Frey.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:03 PM
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26. I heard about that
But I still can't figure out why all the Oprah bashing. How is anyone's life impacted by what took place? From the reaction around here, I thought she had come out in favor of Alito or something.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:07 PM
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31. In order to bash someone-their actions doesn't have to impact
your life personally, I think. It's just that she support something that appears to be fraud.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:19 PM
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39. Yes, people are free to bash whoever they want
I just cannot understand why Oprah seems to be such a target around here.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:57 PM
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25. Mostly because they'd prefer to have a better spokesperson in her
position as Queen of the Legions Who Don't Think for Themselves, but at least she's not a rabid rightwinger.
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:04 PM
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27. Showbiz phony
And she was a willing shill for that talk-to-your-dead-relatives fraud, James van Praagh.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:05 PM
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29. Here, here. I o.d.'ed on oprah about the dr. phil-me-up time.
Can't stand him and getting really over her. And this latest with I-wanna-be-a-bad-ass guy, frey, well, missy should have jettisoned his ass when there was ever a hint that he was a fraud. And while I'm on the subject, you mean to tell me no one--NO ONE--at Harpo or his publisher vetted his OUTRAGEOUS claims? Puh-leeeze, something is rotten in Chicago. With something this potentially explosive, they should have known what he had for lunch six years ago Tuesday. He and his book are a hoax and a fraud and Oprah and her production company Harpo are smack in the middle of it.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:08 PM
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32. It seems he peddled his book as fictional first.
No publishing agency accepted it as such, until he changed it to non-fiction. I wonder if the publishing agency didn't think it would ever get this big, so, they didn't really care if it was accurate or not.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:16 PM
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35. And you know Oprah, if you wanted to do something REALLY relevant,
how about examining the Iraq war? How about examining the 2004 election? Instead of a book about druggie-boy puking on his shoes, how about pimping a book detailing the demise of democracy in this country?

You have the power to get just about everyone in this country fired up. You could get everyone reading some powerful books about what is happening to our country. Instead you pimp some faux-crackhead's fairytale. You could make a diffence...
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:49 AM
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46. You hit the nail on the head-I feel exactly the same.
The bottom line is Oprah plays it WAY TOO SAFE. That, among so many other things, is why I've decided she's probably DLC; since she's no different than any of the DLC politicians. At this point I'm not watching her show like I used to except once in a blue moon when I'm bored.

Because, frankly, I'm sick and tired of the control the elites have over the rest of us peons and I'm not gonna be one of their willing slaves any more. :grr:

I AM DONE.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:29 PM
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36. What was her opinion of Tookie William's redemption?
Is she getting a cut of her book club authors?
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sophie996 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:01 PM
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43. of course she is.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:11 PM
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37. I was struck by what a dull fellow Frey was on Larry King.
Most liars are more entertaining than Frey.
Maybe he was on something that flatlined him.
There is one thing that SmokingGun makes clear
that nobody seems to be noting that I've seen.
The few facts that can be checked out from his
book reveal a liar, but so much of the book (the
whole stay in rehab) can not be checked out at all.
Hazelden I imagine cant even legally say if he was
there or not, and with changed names the characters
there cant be checked out. The point being that if he
has lied about what CAN be checked out, why should he be
believed about things that CANNOT be checked out. Still
and all in all, what an uninteresting man this liar turned
out to be. And to drag his poor deluded mom on there to
bail him out. Tsk tsk, James.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:03 AM
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45. Isn't it ironic he had to drag his mom on LK not to vouch for what a
great guy he is, but what a scum bag he was. "Yeah, I was a real fucking loser, just ask my mom."
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:36 PM
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44. Here we go with the Oprah bashing--the RW'urrrs hate her. 'Nuff said. nt
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