The nation is in crisis. Hey I know. Let's DIVIDE THE "GOOD" SIDE!

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Great idea! Vote for Ralph!

That'll show the fascist rePUKES!

[Walt Starr]

1. What "Good side"

Seems to me we have two wings of a single paryt.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

2. So does the other side but

Olympia Snowe is voting for Scalito. They know how to keep it together that's why they OWN all branches of government.

[deutsey]

4. I think the corporate power and money and media may have helped too

[Taverner]

3. Isn't this a little late?

I mean that's soooo 2000

[AZBlue]

5. Nah, I'm just going to become a Republican.

That way I can win sometimes! Yeah, that's the way to go!
:sarcasm:

[DanCa]

6. Dejavu I heard all this talk about leaving with CAFTA

why dont people vote out the dinos instead of leaving?

[havocmom]

8. There's an idea: Instead of complaining about the party, BE the party!

:thumbsup:

[DanCa]

9. I also wonder how many people here have voted for Senator Kerry

And are not just trying to sow the seeds of dischord among our ranks .

[helderheid]

10. We are the ones we've been waiting for.

[AZBlue]

17. I like that - we should use is as the Dem slogan

"We're the ones you've been waiting for, America"

[helderheid]

22. Sounds good! Only I still like it as written as to get people off their

butts and running for office themselves! Check my sig line for the source of the quote. :)

[AZBlue]

33. Sorry...I should know not to skim over the fine print!

:D

You are too right!!!!!

[Big Kahuna]

7. I've been away from the computer all day

what prompted this outburst? :)

[deutsey]

11. Another DU civil war is about to erupt

From what I gather, many DU'ers are saying their going to leave the Democratic Party if Alito is confirmed; this sentiment is prompting loyalists to circle their wagons, etc., etc., etc.

[Walt Starr]

12. There will be no DU civil war over this

Get serious.

Those of us who have had enough will simply not be here any longer if the Democrats capitulate on this issue.

You cannot fight a civil war with only one side.

[deutsey]

14. The fighting is already underway...and BTW

I left the Democratic Party a while ago. That's how serious I am.

[Walt Starr]

15. I'm extremely close to simply giving up

registering as an I and only paying attention when I have to.

[deutsey]

16. Believe me, I feel your pain (that's not a smarmy reference to Clinton)

Quitting the Democratic Party was very painful, disillusioning for me. I didn't do it lightly, I had just had enough.

[Walt Starr]

18. Sounds like you're still active

For my part, I'm simply going to capitulate and concentrate on matters closer to home while ignoring politics completely.

[deutsey]

21. I think there are times when we all need take a long break

Something in me, though, won't let me capitulate, no matter how despondent I get.

[Walt Starr]

25. See, the fact that Democrats are going to roll over on Alito is all

the proof I need to be 100% convinced there is no way to change anything.

[deutsey]

26. I understand what you're saying, but also consider the long view

Blacks in America after Reconstruction was betrayed had to fight for another hundred years before making the gains they made in the '50s and '60s.

Workers, too, had a hard battle ahead of them as Industrialism re-structured American society after the Civil War.

There are other movements as well that took generations of struggle before fruits were borne.

It's not satisfying on a personal level, perhaps, to admit that, as King said the night before he was killed, we might not live to reach the promised land that we're struggling for in our lifetimes, but we have to make sure we plant and tend to the seeds of progress that may sprout after we're gone.

[Walt Starr]

28. I'd say we are on the leading edge in terms of your analogies

I have neither the time nor the energy to fight a battle that cannot and will not be won in my lifetime, or my children's lifetime.

[deutsey]

29. Well, we all have to deal with what have and where we are, right?

:hi:

[helderheid]

30. I couldn't agree more. I "dropped out" for a couple months. It was

heavenly. Still, the cause calls and here I am. I'll go back to my family totally again in the near future but I'll surely come back.

[DanCa]

13. yep and in that war we'll cut the chaff from the wheat.

But I think the loyalist are the ones that are staying.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

20. I don't get it

this is no surprise. We knew Nov, 04 this would happen and there wasn't a damned thing we could do about it. This isn't the battle we can win. There will be others, in my opinion.

[deutsey]

32. What, there will other battles we can't win?

With the current "leadership" I can't say I disagree.

[firefox]

19. How about making it a party worth a dam

This thread today says what needs saying- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2367394

[Ksec]

23. It IS Insane to divide and lose , aint it?

Ill be here but they wont if they vote against our interests.

We stay, the Liebermans go.

[Dr Fate]

24. Or, DEMs could filibuster and rally and unify the base like never before.

It's in the hands of capital Hill DEMS, not in the hands of the frustrated & powerless who work for a living.

[BillZBubb]

27. That would be great! Take the fight to the Repugs for once.

The Repugs know how to motivate and energize their base even in losing endeavors. They fight to the bitter end. Our side has never learned that lesson.

Our base is listless and drifting away. I don't feel that the Democratic party stands up for what I believe in and it hasn't for many years. I will vote for Democrats over Repugs every time, but I've pretty much given up calling myself a Democrat. It's really sad that our side will never engage in a fight unless we are sure ahead of time we'll win. The public sees that and we get tagged (not inaccurately) as not standing for anything.

[0007]

31. ...we who work for a living and foot the bill to be governed

by facist bastards.