JFK…Pulled Missiles out of Turkey to Resolve the Cuban Missile Crisis

[The Whiskey Priest]

Maybe UN should see about disarming Israel’s nuclear stockpile to resolve the Iran crisis?

[Wickerman]

1. that would be leadership

Bush is all about Bluster and being "plainspoken". :eyes:

[FreedomAngel82]

10. It would benefit Bush to not do that

He wants the oil.

[Mika]

17. No. He wants high oil prices.

That's what instability/threats of war brings on.

[Coexist]

2. Oooh... dangerous ground, there.

This thread should be interesting.

:popcorn:

[blm]

3. Bush already pulled Saddam out of Iraq to appease Bin Laden.

And pulled US bases out of Saudi Arabia because Bin Laden demanded he do so.

The Bush and Bin Laden family always find accomodation for each other.

[Submariner]

4. His crackpot base would see it as caving in

since the world knows * has no negotiating or leadership skills.

[saltpoint]

5. Well there ya go. Another pansy-ass. What JFK SHOULD have

done is publicly taunt our allies, ridicule the U.N., debase weapons inspectors in Cuba, blamed the liberal media, and then bombed an unarmed civilian population whose culture was several thousand years old, and then lied about why.

And somewhere in there he would also should prance around on an aircraft carrier with a tube sock stuffed down his underpants.

[tatertop]

6. Brilliant!

I did not know that about the Cuban Missile Crisis

[Toots]

7. Not sure that is a known fact

Those missles didn't leave Turkey for almost a year after the US turned back the Russian fleet. While almost everyone agrees that it is most likely that JFK made a deal to remove the missles it was never admitted to. This "crisis" is no more severe as North Korea and in fact probably far less so. But no way Bush* is going to threaten North Korea in this same manner. How much oil does North Korea possess? How much does Iran possess? No wonder Iran is a crisis......Bush* does not want any sort of trade off. He wants to attack and make them cower and give in to his every want. The same rational for sticking a firecracker up a frog's ass is in play.

[H2O Man]

14. It's known.

There is no question about that.

[HereSince1628]

8. Being old, one of life's joys is watching younger people discover

what we consider to be common knowledge.

It's not so much a sweet counterpoint to the sourness of being part of the evil baby boom as it is a satisfaction. Sort of the way you feel when it's clear your children are going to be able to survive without living at home until they are 40.

[The Whiskey Priest]

9. I understand completely......

Peace. Two fingers spread in a V

[enigma000]

11. I'm not sure this is what makes Iran tick

I suspect the Iranian regime, and certainly its new nutbar President, is not looking for a nuclear-weapons free Middle East but a Jew free Middle East. And hey, once they have that, maybe the French, British and Americans can dismantle their nukes too. Wonder if that will satisfy them?

My office has a south-easternly view and New York is in that direction (way over the horizon). Viewing the mushroom cloud will be real fun...........

Best of luck guys......I'm rooting for you........

[Cults4Bush]

12. Then why doesn't he just start with the 20.000 or so in his own country?

and why dont you just come out and say that you think Israel should be able to have nukes since that is entirely the way your post reads. I trust Nutty Yahoo as much as I trust the Iranian fanatic. Sharon only slightly more so but he is not coming back to politics now.

[enigma000]

13. hmmmm. Well in Israel's defense

government officials seldom threaten to wipe out whole countries. And that is standard, bi-partisan, Iranian policy.

[Cults4Bush]

15. ..and so it is.

Do not forget that this was to be expected in regards to other soveriegn nations that scare us obtaining nuclear wepaons. If you dont think that we are considering using tactical nuclear weapons on all future enemies with facilities such as Irans than you must go and do a little more research.

After that consider how similar the "scenario" in the post I responded to and the "mushroom" cloud talk pre Iraq war. I know this is a different situation but that "scenario" was quite frankly deserving of my response.
A may have used a teensy amount of hyperbole in my response but so did the post I responded to.

Now if the sceanrio was to be interpreted correctly the US would have to give up its weapons in order for us not to use them in response to a nuclear attack on Israel, which is absurd, but then so is the hypocrisy of thinking Israel is any more free of madmen at the helms of power than we are. In the end in my mind the difference that makes up the deficit between Irans insanity and our own current Neocon inspired insanity or Israels Likkud insanity is that Iran needs a really big "reason" to get away with such an atrocity, we and Israel only need an "excuse". There in may lay worlds of difference and the defintion of reason and excuse all comes down to perception. I think Israel and the US are abit more ahead on the score of perception management (though not by much... damn it all to hell).

ok sorry to go on at length here but I feel that I might be attacked as an Israel hater and Im not... I just despise some of their policies much as I despise some of our own. So I wanted to make that clear.

[enigma000]

16. don't apologize speaking your mind

I hear what you are saying. The madmen may lead us all to destruction. As I see it, I fear, the madmen of Iran are just getting started, while the ones in Israel on the US are, respectively, dying or reforming and in retreat. Alas, our responce whether dictated by madmen or resalable minds, will be the same: if all else fails - fight.

I just hope the mullahs in Iran are saner than their reputation indicates.