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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:23 PM
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Conservatives will still get abortions
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 07:42 PM by realFedUp
You know that nothing will stop Republicans
from getting their daughters abortions if they
are young and unmarried or their health is in
danger. They have afforded and will continue to afford
private medical care to make sure that is the case,
despite any laws to the contrary.

It's women who are poor, can't afford one more
child, in abusive marriages or relationships,
who have been raped or religiously can't
take birth control who will suffer if these
nine judges continue eroding who gets to
make their own reproductive decisions and
who doesn't.

If the Bush daughters get pregnant while not
being married you can bet they'd be getting
abortions in a heartbeat. Who knows if one or
the other hasn't already, which thankfully
in this country is still legal.


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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:26 PM
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1. As I have said many times before,
MONEY talks, even for the middle class, as my Aunt was in 1945. It is the poor and the young who will suffer.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:27 PM
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2. indeed. nt
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:27 PM
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3. Ain't THAT the truth!
"Who knows if one or the other (Bush twin) hasn't already (had an abortion), which thankfully in this country is still legal."

Good God, the last thing this country needs right now is another generation of Bushes!

Those of us of a certain age (I among them) remember when abortion wasn't legal. We also remember how girls in high school who came from well-off families always managed to get one. It was an open secret that if you had the financial means, you could ALWAYS find a doctor who was willing to 'perform a medical procedure' that would help you out of your difficulties.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:29 PM
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5. yes, those who can afford to travel to other states, countries...
did and will.
Those who can't will either self-abort by any
number of horrible means or have one more unwanted
child to suffer a life of poverty.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:35 PM
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11. I remember a story
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 07:35 PM by FreedomAngel82
last year there was a guy who was against stem cell research and he had something happen to him that needed it and he flew to another country and got it because he could afford it.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:50 PM
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23. yep...we lost some good scientists to overseas research too.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:45 PM
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18. in this case
its a service to all humanity
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:29 PM
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4. Rich mothers and daughters frequently took sudden "vacations"
to Europe during the 'fifties, and we will return to that. I grew up in a town with two boys orphaned by a botched amateur abortion. When abortion finally, at long last, became legal I thought of those boys and wished they could have had their mother back during their childhood.

Women take safe abortions for granted now. I wish somebody would make a horror film about how bad it really was. Girls "had to get married" and boys had to abandon college plans. It was dreadful.

The people who are responsible for keeping Plan-B from being available OTC should just fry in hell, as far as I'm concerned.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:30 PM
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6. and as we women say....if men just got pregnant
there would be 24 hour in and out clinics
on more corners than Starbucks.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:54 PM
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28. You women sure say
some pretty sexist things then.

Have any good lines about African-Americans or the disabled.

Maybe those would be even funnier.
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:32 PM
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7.  I hope you saw "Vera Drake" last year---the bad old days in the UK.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:40 PM
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14. I really need to rent that film...thanks for the reminder! nt
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:42 PM
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15. I have a better plan ...
"The people who are responsible for keeping Plan-B from being available OTC should just fry in hell ..."

I have always contended that people who want to make abortion (or 'morning after' contraception) illegal should have their names put on an 'Instant Adoption' list. When your name comes up, you will be notified to expect a child to arrive at your home within the next nine months, and you WILL be immediately responsible for that infant's financial upkeep, including taking it into your family and raising it as your own.

Of course, the immediate response of someone whose name came up would be: "But I can't afford a child right now," or, "I didn't want another child," or (my personal favourite), "The child you're forcing me to raise will be severely handicapped, and will require constant care, financially and emotionally."

And MY response to those people would be: "You wanted to force ANOTHER WOMAN to raise a child in the same circumstances you've just described. Now it's your turn to put your money, your lifestyle, and everything else you hold dear where YOU'RE FUCKING MOUTH IS."

End. Of. Discussion.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:43 PM
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16. good idea, and while "Christian" groups are in bidness of selling
other women's children, you can bet that they
will see it's in their interest to keep poor
white women pregnant.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:06 PM
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25. LOVELY Rant, thank you!!!
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:44 PM
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17. Catholic Girls School in the 60s
Definitely Middle Class. I knew a number of girls who "disappeared" for a semester. They went on "vacations" to Europe. This was NYC too. The tuition was not cheap at this school. They then came back to resume their studies as if nothing had happened.

In the case of my Aunt back in the 40s, she was a middle class, middle aged (grandmother), married, and had a home she could mortgage to come up with the "payment" for a therapeutic abortion. Yes, Fundies, married, faithful, Christian wives have abortions, too.

Those precisely who they are "targeting" to bring unwanted babies into this world, will be exactly the ones who STILL will be able to get an abortion, albeit, at great expense and inconvenience.

Read between the lines of that one. We all KNOW who precisely they are targeting with this.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:49 PM
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22. those Catholic girls were wild.....
ask Catholic boys.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:49 PM
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35. www.lifeandlibertyforwomen.org does make presentations
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:33 PM
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8. Of course, that's what I've said for years - Abortion is a class issue,
not a religious one.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:36 PM
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12. why do they hate us for our freedoms?
Why is it that some males have the need to
make rules for women, especially those they
have no business getting in their business?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:47 PM
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20. right....and who gets to rule over others.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:33 PM
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9. Exactly
In 2002 a woman was talking who was an ex-girlfriend of Bush's before he met Laura and he got her pregnant so Poppy Bush arranged it for her to have an abortion when it's illegal in Texas and was back than and she didn't want the abortion but they made her. After she started talking she was found dead in her home.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:39 PM
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13. I have to imagine abortion isn't a foreign word to the Bush family
young attractive daughters who drink and allegedly
do drugs hanging with a fast crowd of men, leading
to all sorts of decisions about reproductive health.

You have to believe that they are smart enough
to use birth control and hopefully smart enough
to have their partners use condoms.
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:47 PM
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19. I just wish the Bush's would
have more abortions. I wish Repugs would to.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:48 PM
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21. and there's that aspect....lol
fewer bushes, more trees.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:34 PM
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10. I would bet Alito's daughter would get an abortion if unmarried
and young or her health was in danger.

Especially bet she'd have an abortion if raped.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:52 PM
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24. BUT.. They call them "appendicitis"..."female trouble"
"difficulty" with their 'woo-woos'... D & C...."treatment for irregular periods"..

and a ton of other euphemisms..

and sometimes the "procedures" include travel to warm climates for "vacation".
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:56 PM
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26. How many conservatives do you think are "rich"?
The majority of them are in the same financial boat as the rest of us, they just don't realize what's causing it.

It's safe to say rich people regardless of political affiliation will be able to get what they need and the rest of us will not.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:20 PM
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27. Certainly a lot of conservatives are poor to middle class
and they haven't woken up to the fact that
rich conservatives are using them.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:58 PM
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29. Rich women (conservatives) always had access to abortion. Of course!
I had a teacher in high school inform the class about this, and around the time of Roe v Wade.
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:08 PM
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30. The loudest anti-choice mouths are men and older church ladies
They won't get abortions because they cannot get pregnant.

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:12 PM
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31. and nobody would impregnate them
:rofl:
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:16 PM
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32. Undoable.
Bummer for their old men, too, they've got a cornucopia of great pills to get and keep them hard, and they're stuck with these women.
Sorry, not sexy.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:19 PM
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33. In my home town, family doctors still perform home abortions for the rich
In order that their daughters are not seen at Planned Parenthood.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:24 PM
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34. For sure, They call them "miscarriages" lol and do a D&C to clean up.
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