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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:40 PM
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Randi mentioned Alito was a member of CAP for 15 years; did
she ever back that up with proof, and what was it? Why was his name supposedly not mentioned once in the papers Kennedy reviewed after Specter gave him access? This is puzzling and I don't think I've heard an explanation.
Anyone?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:42 PM
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1. I think that's what Alito himself claimed on his resume
...when he applied for a job with the Reagan administration. That's how all the CAP stuff came up in the first place.

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mwdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:30 PM
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10. So, if he wasn't really a member, then he lied on his resume?
The man's up for Supreme Court Justice!! Couldn't someone at lesat point out this lie? If it was a lie?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:47 PM
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2. But yesterday I heard it was 14 years.
Doesn't make sense to me. I'm not buying either of 'em. It sounds like way too long to belong to a college org. Even "I Felta Thi."
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:53 PM
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3. It could have been 14; I thought he initially said he doesn't
remember his involvement at all. How can one not remember being involved in an organization he belonged to for 14 or 15 years?
The first I heard the year figure was via Randi. I'm wondering where she got it.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:09 PM
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5. He graduated in '73 and listed it on a resume in '85
Not sure if he "joined" in '72 or 73. They disbanded in '86. So '72 through '86 is 15 years.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:15 PM
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7. I stand corrected - it disbanded in 89
still looking for what year he graduated and when he "joined" though.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:25 PM
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8. He graduated in '72
Used it on a job application in '85.

Launched in 1972, the year Alito graduated, CAP had an innocuous-sounding name that disguised a less benign agenda, which included preventing women and minorities from entering an institution that had long been a bastion of white male privilege. In a 1973 article in Prospect, a magazine CAP published, Shelby Cullom Davis, one of its founders, harked back to the days when a gathering of Princeton alumni consisted of "a body of men, relatively homogeneous in interests and backgrounds." Lamented Cullom Davis: "I cannot envisage a similar happening in the future with an undergraduate student population of approximately 40% women and minorities, such as the Administration has proposed." Another article published that same year bemoaned the fact that "the makeup of the Princeton student body has changed drastically for the worse" in recent years--Princeton had begun admitting women in 1969--and wondered aloud what might happen if the university adopted a "sex-blind" policy "removing limits on the number of women." In an unsuccessful effort to forestall this frightening development, the executive committee of CAP published a statement in December 1973 that affirmed unequivocally, "Concerned Alumni of Princeton opposes adoption of a sex-blind admission policy."

By the time Alito was readying his 1985 job application with the Reagan Administration, the admission of women and minorities was well established at Nassau Hall, but this did not stop CAP from lamenting the consequences. "People nowadays just don't seem to know their place," fretted a 1983 Prospect essay titled "In Defense of Elitism." "Everywhere one turns blacks and hispanics are demanding jobs simply because they're black and hispanic, the physically handicapped are trying to gain equal representation in professional sports, and homosexuals are demanding that government vouchsafe them the right to bear children." By this point the editor of Prospect was Dinesh D'Souza, who brought to its pages a new level of coarseness aimed at those who did not know their place. "Here at Princeton homosexuals are on the rampage," complained a 1984 news item in Prospect--this after a gay student group had dared to protest being denied permission to hold a dance at a campus club. Another article poked fun at Sally Frank, a Princeton alumna who was suing the university for denying women access to all-male eating clubs. It noted that a Rhode Island woman who'd won a discrimination suit against a mining company had subsequently died in an on-the-job accident. "Sally Frank, take note," it quipped.

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20051212&s=press

"72 to '86 - 14 years.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:27 PM
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9. Thanks, and hi, Sydnie. This still doesn't explain
a) why he couldn't recall anything about being a member, and
b) why the papers had no mention at all of him.

Do you think it possible the records were scrubbed, or is that a given?
I noticed TK settled down once he got what he asked for, but whether that was in resignation
or something else, I don't know.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:33 PM
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11. Hi Bablyonsister - I think he LIED about being a member
because it would help him get that job. He doesn't seem like the "joining" type to me. Perhaps he showed up to a "meeting or two" just to be seen by those in power in the group, but never put his mo ney where his heart was. Then, when joining Reagan, somone told him it would look really good if he had some affiliations and bingo - they brainstormed and came up with that. The Federalist Society obviously had seen his face, so this was a natural addition.

I think he fucked HIMSELF and he didn't like it.

:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:38 PM
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12. So add that to the reasons WHY he shouldn't be
confirmed; why aren't the Dems going after this in force? Maybe they're circling the wagons. :shrug: :hi:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:55 PM
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13. It appears they are holding the vote for a week to
gage public sentiment. We need to make sure they hear us loud and clear. It just might make all the difference in our world!
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:07 PM
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4. It was an alumni organization!
It wasn't even started until two years after he graduated.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:11 PM
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6. Didn't he graduate in '73? Didn't he join in his senior year?
That's what I remember hearing. He might have joined in the fall of '72. hummmm... gonna have to go check that now.
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