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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:09 PM
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A Legend in His Own Crime- George Herbert Walker Bush
"....much of what we just witnessed not only matches historical examples from the CIA's past history of election rigging and outright overthrows, but can be found in a respected coup 'manual' authored by a one-time advisor to President Reagan.... Whatever his strengths might be, no one seriously believes that George W. Bush has the acuity or connections necessary to plan... well anything, really. Although he was conspicuously absent throughout the entire <2000 election> campaign, it goes without saying that GW's secret patrone was one of the best in the biz: his father, George Herbert Walker Bush.... As the first director (DCI) of the CIA to be elected President, not to forget (or belittle) his eight-year tenure as VP, GHW Bush's crimes are now legendary. Over the years he formulated, directed and otherwise facilitated brutal guerilla wars, coups, death squads, propaganda operations, money laundering, assassinations  8  , and drug smuggling  9  . And that's just for starters. Most importantly in our context, GHW Bush has a documented history of using former and active-duty CIA agents in election campaigns... the most important one is still remembered today as 'The October Surprise.'  14   .... In exchange for holding the hostages until after the election , the Reagan-Bush team offered the Iranians millions of dollars in arms, material, and other considerations. Sure enough, the hostages were held until minutes after Reagan's inauguration, then 'suddenly' released. Bush and Casey personally participated in the secret negotiations. James Baker, who would be Reagan's chief of staff and Bush's Sec. of State, was also involved.....
http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/coupbehind.htm



Who is the only man smiling in this picture and why?
This picture was taken at the Sept 11 memorial service at the Washington National Cathedral
reported on by Time Magazine 24 September 2001
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:18 PM
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1. Pictures speak louder than words
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:45 AM
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14. Hags and Poppy look like the cats that swallowed the canaries
in that picture.

That is probably the spookiest thing I have ever seen.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:57 PM
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17. We've taken over the world now son n/t
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:20 PM
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2. Oh my god -- what a freaky photo!
and the timing of that "fatherly" grin is damned scary.
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kma3346 Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:21 PM
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18. Kick
:kick:
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:26 PM
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3. Bush Sr.'s father was a Nazi
Bush Sr. was recruited into the CIA straight out of Yale (lots of old spooks came out of New Haven).

His bumbling speech patterns aside, he is one of the most evil, powerful men in the world. A CIA "Shadow Government"was formed in the mid-Fifties, and he was in on the ground floor. They are still calling the shots. The average 'Murkin', who has never learned how to think for himself is incapable of grasping the magnitude of this cabal. Even those of us who have what seems to be an instinctual "Bullshit" antennea still have a hard time getting our gray matter around the reality of the horrible shit these "men" have perpetrated. And that is because they are absolutely okay with DESTROYING THE WORLD . . . like a cancer destroys its host--and thus itself. All in the name of power. JFK understood that they needed to be shut down . . . so they killed him. Carter understood it to a degree, but it was easier just drive him from office.

They will not surrender their power, people. Power is their life.

Okay, off-rant.

Gee, this is gonna be an interesting year!
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:47 PM
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5. Low Friends in High Places
Chapter -XIV- Bush in Beijing

Whatever benign star it is that tends George Bush's destiny, lights his ambition, it was early on trapped in the flawed orbit of Richard Nixon. Bush's meteoric ascent, in a decade's time, from county GOP chairman to national chairman, including his prestigious ambassadorship to the United Nations, was due largely to the strong tug of Nixonian gravity. Likewise, his blunted hopes and dimmed future, like the Comet Kohoutek, result from the too-close approach to a fatal sun.
Several minutes before Ford appeared for the first time before the television cameras with Nelson Rockefeller, his vice president designate, he had placed a call to Bush to inform him that he had not been chosen, and to reassure him that he would be offered an important post as a consolation. Two days later, Bush met Ford at the White House. Bush claims that Ford told him that he could choose between a future as US envoy to the Court of St. James in London, or presenting his credentials to the Palais de l'Elysee in Paris. Bush would have us believe that he then told Ford that he wanted neither London nor Paris, but Beijing. Bush's accounts then portray Ford, never the quickest, as tamping his pipe, scratching his head, and asking, "Why Beijing?" Here Bush is lying once again. Ford was certainly no genius, but no one was better situated than he to know that it would have been utter folly to propose Bush for an ambassadorship that had to be approved by the Senate.

Why Beijing? The first consideration, and it was an imperative one, was that under no circumstances could Bush face Senate confirmation hearings for any executive branch appointment for at least one to two years. There would have been questions about the Townhouse slush fund, about his intervention on Carmine Bellino, perhaps about Leon and Russell, and about many other acutely embarrassing themes. All of the reasons which had led Ford to exclude Bush as vice president, for which he would have needed the approval of both Houses of Congress, were valid in ruling out any nomination that had to get past the senate. After Watergate, Bush's name was just too smelly to send up to the Hill for any reason, despite all the power of the usual Brown Brother, Harriman/Skull and Bones network mobilization. It would take time to cauterize certain lesions and to cool off certain investigative tracks. Certain scandals had to be fixed. Perhaps in a year or two things might cool down, and the climate of opinion alter. But while the psychology of Watergate dominated the legislative branch, a high-profile job for Bush was out of the question.

<snip>

Bush's notorious crony Robert Mosbacher, certainly well versed enough to qualify as a conoisseur of sleaze, was uncharacteristically close to the heart of the matter when he opined that in late August, 1974, Bush "wanted to get as far away from the stench as possible." Like Don Gregg in 1989, Bush wanted to get out of town and let things blow over for a while. His own story that Beijing would be a "challenge, a journey into the unknown" is pure tripe. More imaginative, but equally mendacious is the late Dean Burch's explanation that Bush had "a Marco Polo complex, thinking he could pentrate the mystery of the place." The truth is that with Washington teeming with Congressional committees, special prosecutors, grand juries, all in a furor of ostracism, Bush wanted to get as far away as he could, and Beijing was ideal.

<snip>

Otherwise, as Bush has already mentioned, serving in Beijing meant further close subordination to Henry Kissinger. Kissinger told Bush before he left that policy would be implemented directly by Kissinger himself, in contact with the Chinese liaison in Washington and the Chinese representative at the United Nations. In practice, Bush would be ordered about by such Kissinger clones as Richard Solomon of the NSC, Assistant Secretary of State Philip Habib, and Winston Lord, director of the State Department's Policy Planning Staff and the scion of an old Skull and Bones family. But then again, Bush was a leading Kissinger clone in his own right.

http://www.tarpley.net/bush14.htm


Former President Bush with President Ziang of China in Houston Texas, Wed 23 October 2002
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:15 AM
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11. Something I'm wondering
Why do you think they had to kill JFK and not Carter? They could have him I'm sure but they didn't. I wonder why? Is it because the Kennedy family were another legacy family and more people involved in politics than Carter? Or what?
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 06:47 AM
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12. You're right. Legacy family.
yup. The spooks were furious at JFK for not supporting the Bay of Pigs, and for actually saying the CIA had to be gotten under control. So they had to send this big rich Irish family a message one day in Dallas.

Carter was a lone "Don Quixote" figure, so they just waited four years. They needed to lay low after Watergate anyhow. IMO.

I'm glad that they were able to wait four years! As you and I discussed a few weeks ago, Carter has gone on to show that one person can make a difference in the lives of millions of oppressed people.

Cheers.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:36 PM
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4. Looks like he pulled the old
"Pull my finger" routine on Chimpie. Either that, or they just like holding hands in public.
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 11:26 PM
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6. Why does it seem that you are saying "YES" to illegal narcotics in America
Bo Gritz Letter to George Bush
1 February 1988, Sandy Valley, NV

Honorable George Bush, Vice President, United States of America, Washington, D.C.

Sir:

Why does it seem that you are saying "YES" to illegal narcotics in America?

I turned over video tapes to your NSC staff assistant, Tom Harvey, January 1987, wherein General KHUN SA, overlord of Asia's "Golden Triangle", offered to stop 900 tons of heroin/opium from entering the free world in 1987. Harvey told me, "...there is no interest here in doing that." General Khun Sa also offered to identify U.S. Government officials who, he says, have been trafficking in heroin for more than 20 years.

November 1986, Scott Weekly and I went into Burma in coordination and cooperation with The White House. Tom Harvey told me you received a letter from Arthur Suchesk, Orange County, CA, dated 29 August 1986. Dr. Suchesk said that Gen Khun Sa had access to U.S. POWs. Harvey said the letter had received "highest attention". He gave me a copy along with other case documents. I was asked if it was possible to verify the information. According to Harvey, the CIA said Khun Sa had been assassinated some months before. Harvey supplied Scott and myself with language under White House and NSC letterhead that would help us gain access to Khun Sa. It worked. Unfortunately, Khun Sa knew nothing about US POWs. He did, however, offer to trade his nation's poppy dependence for a legitimate economy.

Instead of receiving an "Atta Boy" for bringing back video tape showing Khun Sa`s offer to stop 900 tons of illegal narcotics and expose dirty USG officials, Scott was jailed and I was threatened. I was told that if I didn't "erase and forget" all that we had discovered, I would, "hurt the government". Further, I was promised a prison sentence of "15 years".

I returned to Burma with two other American witnesses, Lance Trimmer, a private detective from San Francisco, and Barry Flynn from Boston. Gen Khun Sa identified some of those in government service he says were dealing in heroin and arms sales. We video taped this second interview and I turned copies over in June 1987, to the Chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence; Chairman of the House on Foreign Affairs Task Force on Narcotics Control; Co-Chairman, Senate Narcotics Committee; Senator Harry Reid, NV; Representative James Bilbray, NV; and other Congressional members. Mister Richard Armitage, Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, is one of those USG officials implicated by Khun Sa. Nothing was done with this evidence that indicated that anyone of authority, including yourself, had intended to do anything more than protect Mr. Armitage. I was charged with "Misuse of Passport". Seems that it is alright for Oliver North and Robert MacFarlane to go into Iran on Irish Passports to negotiate an illegal arms deal that neither you nor anyone else admits condoning, but I can't use a passport that brings back drug information against your friends.

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/gritz1.htm
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 06:53 AM
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13. I wonder if the guy that wrote that is still alive.
They evidently didn't call Bush Sr. "Poppy" for nothing . . . .

Wow.

:wow:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:51 AM
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7. And, they were having the FBI and others get their Saudi buddies ...
... out of the country, pronto ... no wonder they were all smiles. Cheney was probably clucking with glee ...


Peace.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:09 AM
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8. Delete
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 03:10 AM by d_b
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:10 AM
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9. In regards to that photo:
Connections are everything.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:13 AM
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10. Look at all three of them
Barbara too. Wow, she's really quite scary! You can tell George is trying to hide a smirk.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:50 AM
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15. I have posted many times that Poppy
is the brains behind all of the crap that is happening in our country. He stays out of the picture and his name is never brought up, not even by his own Son.
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kma3346 Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:53 PM
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16. REALLY creepy!!!
Junior looks nervous and guilty, while his parents beam happily and proudly. Their expressions seem to say, "Now's your big chance, son." Those expressions are so utterly out of place and inappropriate considering where they are and what just happened. Creepy, creepy, creepy.

:wtf:
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:27 PM
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19. Bush#41 may have been involved in the assasination of JFK
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 03:33 PM by SupplyConcerns
Before you roll your eyes, check out this documentary:

http://leapingrealeyes.blogspot.com/2005/12/jfk-bushit-kills-both-kennedys.html

It has some stylistic weaknesses, but the specific claims are backed up by documentation. For example:

-Jack Ruby (the guy who shot Lee Harvey Oswald) was a documented employee of Richard Nixon in 1947.
-Nixon was in Dallas the day that Kennedy was shot, and he has given contradictory statements about where he was when he learned Kennedy was shot.
-George H.W. Bush was already working for the CIA in 1963, according to a memo written by FBI director J. Edgar Hoover.
-The elder Bush was in Dallas the day that Kennedy was shot. (This is accessable info to put here, but not the most compelling information in the documentary)

George H. W. has ties to many, many figures who are connected to the Kennedy assasination. When watching the video, try to keep in mind this truism: some reporting begins as a hunch about a "conspiracy theory", but once enough evidence has been collected, people consider it "investigative reporting", forgetting that it concerns an actual conspiracy.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:52 PM
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20. Don't forget his ties to the family of John Hinckley
Apparently H. W. was none too happy w/losing the Republican nomination to Reagan.
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 06:11 PM
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21. Which person in the picture has the CIA's headquarters complex been named
The George Bush Center for Intelligence

after him?

The Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1999* was signed into law by the President on October 20, 1998.  Among its provisions, the Act directed that the Headquarters compound of the Central Intelligence Agency located in Langley, Virginia, shall be known and designated as the "George Bush Center for Intelligence."

Former President George Bush was Director of Central Intelligence and head of the Central Intelligence Agency from 30 January 1976 to 20 January 1977.

On April 26, 1999, Agency employees, senior officials from current and previous Administrations and Congresses, former Directors and Deputy Directors of Central Intelligence, family members, and friends joined former President Bush and former First Lady Barbara Bush in ceremonies dedicating the Headquarters compound as the George Bush Center for Intelligence.

Activities included a ceremony which included remarks by then Director of Central Intelligence George J. Tenet, Representative Rob Portman, and President Bush; a wreath-laying ceremony at the Central Intelligence Agency’s Memorial Wall; a reception for the Bush family; and informal remarks by President Bush to Agency employees.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/information/bush.html

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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 07:07 PM
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22. that is freaky - why are bush1 and bush2 shaking hands
everyone else is sober and serious. Mrs. Bush1 looks giddy with glee.

Freaky.
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:34 PM
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23. From my notes on Eugenics
George Bush was director of the CIA from 1976-77, and became a director of Eli Lilly 1977-78. What's the connection? Lilly has long-time ties to the CIA. The company history is quite interesting. Lilly reportedly supplied major amounts of LSD during MK-Ultra. Lilly has worked extensively on recombinant DNA human insulin, the key technology that makes new viruses possible to engineer. (New viruses might include AIDS, Mad Cow, Aspartam, Gulf War.) Lilly marketed its first recombinant DNA product immediately after the AIDS epidemic was noted, about 1982.

I don't know if Bush was an investor in Lilly. (The Quayle family apparently owns a large block of stock.) He put his pharmaceuticals into blind trust after taking heat for exerting influence that would benefit the industry.
Lilly's reputation isn't too pure; lots of controversy about testing on homeless in soup kitchens and other sorts of victimizations of human guinea pigs.

And then comes Tanox. A company that sells biochemical substances to the Middle East and whose owners include GHWB and James Baker III. Reportedly a class action suit was filed against the company by Gulf War veterans. The charge is that the company developed and tested contaminated vaccines on servicemen and women.

Seriously, some of the characters associated with the Bush dynasty have a history of dabbling in eugenics, population engineering, and other tinkering that displays an arrogance for non-elite life. GHWB best friend Will Farrish. Close associate and appointee C. Boyden Gray. Blind trust manager Will Draper III. Look up their grandparents and parents. Pretty frightening stuff. It isn't too far a step from those vicious predilections to thinking that Bush and Baker own a company that infected our own fighting troops for some sort of personal gain.


C. Boyden Gray's family history is even more colorful. From the Unauthorized Biography of GHWB:
When Boyden Gray was four and five years old, his father organized the pilot project for the present worldwide sterilization program, from the Gray family household in North Carolina.
It started in 1946. The eugenics movement was looking for a way to begin again in America.
Nazi death camps such as Auschwitz had just then seared the conscience of the world. The Sterilization League of America, which had changed its name during the war to `` Birthright, Inc., '' wanted to start up again. First they had to overcome public nervousness about crackpots proposing to eliminate `` inferior '' and `` defective '' people. The League tried to surface in Iowa, but had to back off because of negative publicity: A little boy had recently been sterilized there and had died from the operation.

They decided on North Carolina, where the Gray family could play the perfect host. Through British imperial contacts, Boyden Gray's grandfather, Bowman Gray, had become principal owner of the R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. Boyden's father, Gordon Gray, had recently founded the Bowman Gray (memorial) Medical School in Winston-Salem, using his inherited cigarette stock shares. The medical school was already a eugenics center.
As the experiment began, Gordon Gray's great aunt, Alice Shelton Gray, who had raised him from childhood, was living in his household. Aunt Alice had founded the `` Human Betterment League, '' the North Carolina branch of the national eugenical sterilization movement.

Aunt Alice was the official supervisor of the 1946-47 experiment. Working under Miss Gray was Dr. Claude Nash Herndon, whom Gordon Gray had made assistant professor of `` medical genetics '' at Bowman Gray Medical School.

Dr. Clarence Gamble, heir to the Proctor and Gamble soap fortune, was the sterilizers' national field operations chief.

The experiment worked as follows. All children enrolled in the school district of Winston-Salem, N.C., were given a special `` intelligence test. '' Those children who scored below a certain arbitrary low mark were then cut open and surgically sterilized.

A side note: in 1952, the American Eugenics Society left its headquarters at Yale University.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 02:24 AM
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24. Absolutely chilling.
I wasn't aware of the Eugenics stuff. Damn. What intense cynicism, what incredible evil they have.

I WAS aware of the weirdness at Lilly. I lived in Indy for seven years. Indeed, the Quayles were in on a lot of their projects, though this is the first I've heard about GHWB. What I've always remembered about Lilly, was talking to a fella that had worked there for twenty years at the downtown Lilly high-rise main hdqtrs. There was a floor (the eighth, if I remember correctly) that virtually no one was allowed on. You had to have super high-level security to get off the elevator on that floor. It wouldn't even stop there, if you didn't have a key and a password. He believed it was military related. He was kind of right. You and I now know that it was the old tribe of Spooks from New Haven and their not-so-bumbling buddy, George Sr . . .

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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 11:22 AM
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25. Yes very wicked men
"Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries"

Henry Kissinger

"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation"

Prince Phillip
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